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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
You link didint work.
...although I'd love to see that pic.
Here's a question: Where can i find ppics of the ships from the Wizards of the Coast STar Trek RPG "The Price of Freedom"? I know the art sucks terribly,....and yet I'm intrested in mabye building one of those ships as a challenge. To make it actually look cool. Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
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Sure looks like a New Orleans, but the text says Wambundu class...
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Where can i find ppics of the ships from the Wizards of the Coast STar Trek RPG "The Price of Freedom"?
Last Unicorn Games, not WOTC. Though WOTC did buy LUG this was only months before the Trek RPG license was yanked and given to Decipher, so no Trek products ever came out under the Wizards name. Anyway there are scans of the original ships from The Price of Freedom on my web site.
I didn't bother putting up scans of the bad drawings of the known designs.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Thanks for the link (added to favorites), but those are far worse than I remembered!
Somebodt should have got the job of rendering the ships that had more than an hour's experience with paintshop or whatever was used in those pics! Best of all, the windows are pasted on crooked and don't follow the saucer's edge! Hell, The Niagra does'nt even have the third nacelle!
...oddly enough, the pic of their "Niagra" is the only rendering possibly worth making a model of: they missed the Niagra's likeness by so much that it look like a wholly unique class!
They really should have come to Flare for their talent.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
New Orleansish, but not.. it appears to be a photoshopping of a Galaxy photo.. note the non-NO looking upswept pylons? this is an interesting proposal for the Wambundu-class **grumblegrumble low registry to be in the Galaxy family grumblegrumble**
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
It's a very quick photoshopping of that standard Enterprise beauty shot.
Not very interesting, and not suited for the Wambundu class Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Wambundu Class a.k.a Light Cruiser
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Nothing "light" about that elephant. The first step in all Galaxy kitbashing is to alter the scale of the saucer, i.e. to change the number and size of portholes on it. Otherwise, you get a ship as big as Picard's, and he'll be very, very annoyed at you.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
It's a shame, Decipher's art department is usually really good. That pic isn't very well done at all. Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
They could have done better. Only the Starfleet logo on the bottom seems to have been inserted. The rest is a simple cut&paste from a publicity photo.
Posted by Triton (Member # 1043) on :
Yeah. It looks like the connecting pylon between the primary and secondary hulls just collapsed in on itself. A Galaxy-class starship suffering from metal fatigue? Anyone thinking of the song "Low Rider" by War?
Well you didn't think that Decipher was going to build a new model for you did you?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
They've airbrushed out the second row of windows on the ventral saucer. But other than that, it's a mediocre kitbash job for a ship design not from that era in the first place.
Mark <--- Our top speed is warp three. What's yours?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: It's a very quick photoshopping of that standard Enterprise beauty shot.
Not very interesting, and not suited for the Wambundu class
VERY quick... absolutely that 'well known' beauty shot.
Andrew
Posted by Masaki (Member # 1030) on :
This is another beauty shot which I made.
U.S.S. DRAKE Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
quote:Originally posted by Timo: Nothing "light" about that elephant. The first step in all Galaxy kitbashing is to alter the scale of the saucer, i.e. to change the number and size of portholes on it. Otherwise, you get a ship as big as Picard's, and he'll be very, very annoyed at you.
Timo Saloniemi
Picard was the one who called the Drake a "light cruiser" in the dialog...which it really the only canon info on that ship. The "warp 3" thing is questionable...imo.
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
Captain Picard never called the Drake a light cruiser. The individual who did was the hologram of the Drake's captain. This captain also said his ship had a top speed of warp 3.
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
No, I believe it was the opening log entry that states the Enterprise is looking for "the Light Cruiser USS Drake". It was Captain Picard.
Posted by darkwing_duck1 (Member # 790) on :
quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike: New Orleansish, but not.. it appears to be a photoshopping of a Galaxy photo.. note the non-NO looking upswept pylons? this is an interesting proposal for the Wambundu-class **grumblegrumble low registry to be in the Galaxy family grumblegrumble**
No, that's a NO, allright. The whatever it is on the bottom and the no-neck give it away...there is a pic of the NO in both the Encyclopedia AND the Chronology, and that's it.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Actually, the N.O. model is quite a bit diffrent but in the same configuration. Less ventral windows (as pointed out). Except the nacelle pylons: from that perspective we would see the pylons higher and the nacelles would be a bit farther apart. Somebody did a chop job on a Galaxy to try and make the N.O. from a new pespective. A simmlar shot of the real N.O. model is here: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/neworleans/neworleans-ency2-bottom.jpg Not a bad card, though a bit off. They did'nt add the botton "pod" at all: they just dropped in a black box to represent the pods opening and got away with it! Crafty. Beats the hell out of the Last Unicorn Games version by a mile.
Still should'nt be the Drake though. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
P.S.-Ravenstar Studios is making a model of the N.O. this year in both 1400th and 2500th scales! I can not wait.
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
I wished we had seen more of the New Orleans. She is a very good looking ship.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
quote:Originally posted by SoundEffect: No, I believe it was the opening log entry that states the Enterprise is looking for "the Light Cruiser USS Drake". It was Captain Picard.
Yup, once again the only canon info on that ship. Posted by Adm_Amit (Member # 1046) on :
I must agree that it's a shame that no real on-screen time was given to the New Orleans-class starship in any of the series or the movies. The ship looks like it could perform greatly during ship to ship space battles.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I'd agree that that isn't a New Orleans class. Jason is right... they just slapped a black box on the bottom. They were probably looking at a pic of the New Orelans when they did this, but keep in mind how small these cards are. Probably about half the size of that scan, if memory serves.
As for those LUG ships... all the top views are decent... but what cooky brand of crack were those guys snorting when they did the side views. I mean, geez... had they ever actually *watched* star trek? Interestingly, the top view of the Rigel bears a striking resemblance to the Saber and the Deneva looks hella like the Steamrunner. When did that book come out?
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
After first contact. Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
It can't be the NO-class. First of all, the ship was battle-damaged and those Encyclopedia-pictures were probably made before they did that to her. And I highly doubt they have two models. And even if they do have two of them, one damaged, the other one in the Encyclopedia, this can't be one of them. Look at the window configuration of the "real" NO-class. The size of the saucer-row isn't right, and the Encyclopedia-NO clearly has two rows of windows on the lower side of the engineering section while this one has three. And there are no escape pods on the saucer-rim. Agreed, the hull/saucer connection an the pen-pod look convincing, but the details aren't right. Either this is a photoshop kitbash (the pod looks like it has been copied and pasted from somwhere, wrong grey) or someone kitbashed a real Galaxy-class kit without paying attention to those details.
Posted by Adm_Amit (Member # 1046) on :
The ship was obviously kitbashed but it is clearly seen that not tooo much attention was really placed on the details of making the "wambundu class". The people at Decipher probably didn't care too much on putting time and effort to make a new ship for a card. They just slapped something together that could be easily be passed up as a new starship.
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
That's a photoshopped job plain and simple. I've been a model maker half my life and that is not a model, (besides the original Galaxy Class photo). That is a well known publicity photo of the Enterprise-D. Even the shadows and highlights are in identical places. This was hastily done.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
no comment.
(Does anyone have the right font?)
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
here's the pic that was photochopped from
here's a real shot of the NO model from Bernd's site, with its lack of lower windows, correctly scaled hulls and non-curved-with-a-rounded-corner-instead nacelle struts.. i suggest that DW get glasses
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Interestingly, the top view of the Rigel bears a striking resemblance to the Saber and the Deneva looks hella like the Steamrunner. When did that book come out?
actually the Saber amd Steamrunner were also featured in that book.. i believe the artists were asked to come up with SF ships that resembled the evolution of those seen in FC.. obviously many other facets of SF design got short shrift due to everyones fervor for the newer designs
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Not that their schematics of the Sabre or Steamrunner were anything like accurate either though. Posted by darkwing_duck1 (Member # 790) on :
Ok, now I'm officially confused...are we talking about the actual image here or the design?
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
the image doesnt do the design justice.. it is arranged the same way, but by that logic the Constitution, Excelsior, Ambassador and Galaxy are all arranged the same way.. they all have separate designs, and the cheap photochopped Wambundu bears only a passing resemblance to the actual NO model.
yeah, the LUG schematics suck.. i think i should redraw them!
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I was thinking about that too. The top views are workable... but the side views should be disregarded completely. It actually looks like two seperate people did the top view and side view. And since it seems obvious that the top views were influenced heavily by the FC ships... that's essentially the case.
Ok...so... race ya!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
LOL! Amasov... one of the Titan's features is a gay bar!?! heeheheh.
What does that allow you to do during the game!?!
"You may choose any male character from the opponent's deck". Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
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I was thinking about that too. The top views are workable... but the side views should be disregarded completely. It actually looks like two seperate people did the top view and side view. And since it seems obvious that the top views were influenced heavily by the FC ships... that's essentially the case.