But not too much to expect, tech-wise. Perhaps we'll be surprised, perhaps it's just the encroaching state of apathy now that we know that there will only be five more tech reviews after this, and then none for the forseeable future. And perhaps it's because we KNOW it's a skin episode of Trek that the producers THOUGHT would be good for ratings. Ah well... Look for:
-New suggestions of political maneuvering by Earth, working towards the coming coalition.
-More on Orion culture, only really seen earlier this season as a bunch of overhormonal green guys with huge assets in both genders.
-Anything on the Orion ships, which we knew were a challenge for Enterprise to match. Will they be characteristically eaiser to beat this time around?
-Machinations in the chain of command. Commander Kelby actually has a character this time around, and will rub elbows with more than Trip's leftover command style.
-On that, mentions of the "repairs" Enterprise is undergoing with Trip's "help". Unlike previous battles, the fun Enterprise and Columbia had with the Klingons left both ships apparently unscathed, at least from the outside. Perhaps the warp 5+ kajiggering they did has mucked up the core?
-Booty. Lots and lots and lots of booty.
Mark
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
-- Still more name-dropping. This time Berengaria VII (the closed-captioninging said "Berengarius") and its dragons, mention by Spock in "This Side of Paradise" (TOS), the Gorn Hegemony ("the less said about them, the better"), and the Deltans (with which Travis had a close encounter aboard the Horizon when he was 15).
-- A new Orion vessel of a different but fitting configuration, and what appear to be decorative markings on the exterior.
-- Booty. Green booty. Much green booty.
-- Kelby is a little bitch. Some character.
-- They used some technobabble modulated pulse from the deflector to cause an "energy cascade." Woop whoop.
-- It's actually the females who control the Orion Syndicate, it's the males who are the slaves, controlled by the powerful pheremones of the animal women. An interesting twist, but not a particularly sensical one.
-- Vulcans are immune to the Orion pheremones and beacuse Trip and T'Pol are psychically joined, Trip gains immunity as well.
-- They did one of those awful bits like on TOS where the Vulcan says something "funny" and the whole senior staff stands there laughing forever. I hated those on TOS, and I hated it here.
-- Trip and T'Pol have made up and Trip is coming back to Enterprise.
-- Next week's episode is going to fucking ROCK.
-MMoM Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I don't know if upn will show "In a Mirror Darkly" next week since instead of showing a promo, they announced that they would show some yankees baseball game, kinda like they did for storm front when they said they were going to show the episode and at the last minute showed a baseball game. I hope they don't do that cause if they do they'll make me angry, and you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
Bound, well, it was ok.
But did you see the Defiant in that MU-trailer??? Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
- Trip and T'Pol were unaffected, but so were all the other females on the ship, right? Where were they, then?
- The Orions use grapplers. The first time aliens don't have tractors?
- Frankly, I don't believe Harrad-Sar's claim about Orion males.
- I vaguely recall a plot inbetween the sweating men and half-naked green women. I could be mistaken though.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
-You were.
-I can accept an Orion matricarchy, with "slavery" being used as a weapon for expansion and conquest. It's as thin an explanation as the garments the Orion babes were wearing, but I can buy it.
-Kelby was called a lieutenant by Trip, despite his rank pips and dialogue in the previous episodes. Likewise, Kelby constantly called Trip "sir".
-The Orion babes were locked up in decon, which was wise enough. A new door has apparently been installed.
-I know some hyposprays can dispense different drugs, but does this era's equivalent do so? I'm pretty sure Phlox injects himself with the same hypo as he did Kelby, though obviously with a different drug. This seems muchly like an ad lib on the part of the actor.
-Can people tow a ship at warp with a grappler? If not, where can they expect to go at non-FTL speeds?
-Trip mentions pounds as a weight reference instead of kilos.
-Have the previous Orion babes we've seen had such greasy hair?
Mark
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah grappler thing was pretty cool to see. Though to be honest I find my opinion of the episode is weird. I actually enjoyed the orion babes, but if this episode appeared in enterprise season 1, I would have hated it. Oh wait, I just remembered 4 years ago I didn't have raging hormones.
-Mars
Posted by QuinnTV (Member # 859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: -Kelby was called a lieutenant by Trip, despite his rank pips and dialogue in the previous episodes. Likewise, Kelby constantly called Trip "sir".
Trip later remarked that Kelby didn't think the promotion would come through. Perhaps it was to take effect once Trip was *really* gone, in order to have one senior engineer?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: - Trip and T'Pol were unaffected, but so were all the other females on the ship, right? Where were they, then?
No, the human women were all affected as well. Phlox said that the pheremones acted to "discourage competition" by making females listless and causing bad headaches.
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: -The Orion babes were locked up in decon, which was wise enough. A new door has apparently been installed.
Actually, that was a partition that presumably came down from the ceiling to separate the chamber in two smaller subunits---Archer was actually standing inside the chamber and the familiar door and window were behind him. (I presume they did this so they could show us more of the girls up close and so Bakula could do his goldfish impression.)
quote:-Can people tow a ship at warp with a grappler? If not, where can they expect to go at non-FTL speeds?
Well he said there were a pair of interceptors waiting, so perhaps they weren't far. Especially since the Orion plan always involved disabling Enterprise.
quote:-Trip mentions pounds as a weight reference instead of kilos.
He's that kind of down-home-folk-type of guy.
quote:-Have the previous Orion babes we've seen had such greasy hair?
Yes, except for Marta in "Whom Gods Destroy" (TOS), with her cute little butch-cut. Rawr!
By the way, I didn't at all dislike this episode and thought it was pretty solid overall, (except for the gender-role reversal thing and the subsequent T'Pol "joke") I just found it easy to make fun of.
-MMoM Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
quote:-Trip mentions pounds as a weight reference instead of kilos.
Unlike physicists, there are quite a few engineers in the US who still use the so-called English system of units (e.g. pound, inch, mile, etc.). I think it's partially because engineers often have to work with machinists, many of whom have only a high-school diploma and never learned the metric system (because our school system simply can't teach science). The system of units we use in America is utter crap and should have been replaced by the metric system decades ago. I certainly hope that by the 22nd century the metric system will have been universally adopted.
Posted by japol (Member # 1149) on :
Well, considering Trip is from Florida, and we in the ol' USA actually shot at metric speed limit signs when they tried that a couple of decades ago (not me personally), it doesn't surprise me in the least that he thinks of his weight in pounds.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Trip obviously had quite a dislike for Kelby. Not only did he refer to him as "lieutenant" (surely he was already a LCDR before being promoted?), but he insisted that he was going to let the guy have the chief engineerhood back, even though he knew he had already requested a permanent transfer back to Enterprise.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Yeah, I thought about that too. Either the writer just didn't edit his script very well, or Trip is going to take a demotion. Or maybe he's really just an asshole and is going to remain chief engineer despite what he told Kelby. Yeah, I think that's the most likely answer.
I also find it hard to believe that Trip was granted a transfer back to Enterprise three days before, and Archer (and consequently, T'Pol) wasn't aware of this.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by Zefram: Unlike physicists, there are quite a few engineers in the US who still use the so-called English system of units (e.g. pound, inch, mile, etc.). I think it's partially because engineers often have to work with machinists, many of whom have only a high-school diploma and never learned the metric system (because our school system simply can't teach science). The system of units we use in America is utter crap and should have been replaced by the metric system decades ago. I certainly hope that by the 22nd century the metric system will have been universally adopted.
And its because of the US still using that backwards system that I (an engineer in training in Canada) have to learn the system as well. Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I kept thinking that one of Kelby's pips was a golden colour, but it was just a trick of the light. Looks like we'll never get to see a half-pip then.
And. . . the Art Asylum phase pistols are back! Trip definitely had one, not sure about Reed's. Either they'd made the decision that the toys look as good as the actual props, or the props have suffered too much wear-and-tear; or - and my money's on this - prescient film-crew members have been helping themselves to the originals before the show goes off the air!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"I also find it hard to believe that Trip was granted a transfer back to Enterprise three days before, and Archer (and consequently, T'Pol) wasn't aware of this."
Well, he said he'd requested it. Not that it had actually been granted yet.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I like the big new Orion ship. Did I see turrets on that thing?
BUT - It seems that the "unknown configuration" ship that wasn't doing any damage to them was a reuse of the Naussican pirate ship.
B.J.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
I'm still on the trailer for next week's mirror episode...
"Will you kindly die?"
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah I saw the trailer on the site and I have to applaud them for the Defiant though I'm 100% sure someone here will find something wrong with it. It also seems there's going to be a Star Wars-ish battle taking place. I also note that the defiant will be taken to a drydock(that is hope fully automated).
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Trip obviously had quite a dislike for Kelby. Not only did he refer to him as "lieutenant" (surely he was already a LCDR before being promoted?), but he insisted that he was going to let the guy have the chief engineerhood back, even though he knew he had already requested a permanent transfer back to Enterprise.
It was my impression that the Earth-Starfleet only had four ranks for officers: Ensign, Lieutenant, Commander, and Captain. I can't recall an exact reference, but I seem to recall somewhere that that was always the intention for ENT.
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
Your comment reminds me of an article titled "A Beginner's Guide to Peru" which (among other things) said that the Peruvian Army had only three ranks: private, general and president...
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Now, you know that's not true. They also had colonels.
Posted by machf (Member # 1233) on :
Of course. My great-grandfather was one, in fact.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Oh - and can someone PLEASE come up with a decent title for the "In a Mirror, Darkly" tech thread? "Temptechtions" for fuck's sake? I was thinking something like "Slave to Te(c)h Rhythm," something imaginative. If I log on tomorrow and see a title like "Reflective Tech" I will hunt the perpetrator down!
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Well, as we all know, you are the judge, jury, and executioner of everyone. Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, that is his role as laid out in the constitution, though disagreement over his proper use nearly led to armed insurrection in the 1890s, and ever since most of our leaders have been reluctant to even acknowledge his existence. They claim his primary role today is to guard against the unlikely chance of alien invasion. But that's the problem with eldritch superweapons from the Dimension of Shadow.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Aw, you guys, you say such nice things. . .
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
"Its just a name! Like the Death Zone or The Zone Of No Return. All the zones have names like that in The Galaxy Of Terror!"
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