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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Altair</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,7,6,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 07, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:32 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'm working on my first serious cut'n'paste ship, but I have a small problem. In the aft view the impuls engines are 'blocked' by the nacelle-struts. Is this possible or do the impuls engines have to have a 'clean' aft view (like the buzzard (sp?) collectors have a 'clean' front view.)??<P>------------------<BR>"Isn't Y2K year 2048?? I mean last time I checked 1K was 1024.<br>Now that Y1.953125K, that's where the real problem lies..."<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,7,13,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 07, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:36 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It probably cuts back on efficency, but I don't think it's impossible...<P>------------------<BR>"Why don't you go out and cross the boulevard while the lights are against you?"<br>-Groucho Marx to Chico Marx, <i>Animal Crackers</i> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,9,20,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 09, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It hasn't been done before. I don't think it would work unless they were angled outwards.<P>------------------<BR>What bloke invented signatures? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Altair</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,10,5,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:56 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> What if I make variable geometry nacelle-struts (like Voyager) where the impuls-engines aren't blocked in 'impuls-mode' but are blocked in 'warp-mode'??<P>------------------<BR>"Isn't Y2K year 2048?? I mean last time I checked 1K was 1024.<br>Now that Y1.953125K, that's where the real problem lies..."<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,10,8,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:35 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The three-nacelled AGT Enterprise-D has the central impulse exhaust almost completely blocked by the additional pylon, and this is one reason why I don't like it. Apart from the efficiency problem, hot plasma is exhausted, and no engineer would put a pylon in its way.<P>------------------<BR>I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer. (McCoy in "Devil in the Dark")<br> <A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,10,17,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:51 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It didn't <i>have</i> a central impulse engine.<P>------------------<BR>What bloke invented signatures? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,10,19,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:09 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Of course it did. At the base of the neck. . . <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Warped1701</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,10,20,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:05 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I think that Federation Shipmaster is right about the impulse engines. If you look at the E-D, the saucer engines are operating, and I didn't see the main impulse engine lit.<P>------------------<BR>"Angels and Ministers of Grace, defend us" <br>-Hamlet, Act I, Scene IV <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,11,3,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:43 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <A HREF="http://www.users.csbsju.edu/~rsorense/modelcitizen/trekships/galaxy/agt-ent-top.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.users.csbsju.edu/~rsorense/modelcitizen/trekships/galaxy/agt-ent-top.jpg</A> <p>It is possible that the additional "box" is not supposed to be an impulse engine. I had probably some artwork in mind where the neck was unchanged. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Altair</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,11,4,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:24 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Actually it had 2 impuls engines in the neck. (I checked 'All Good Things...'.) In the aft view the third pylon is right in between the impuls engines.<p>The Ent-B/Lakota on the other hand has the extra impuls engines partially blocked by the warp nacelles.<p>BTW: I didn't get an awnser to my last question.<br><P>------------------<BR>"Isn't Y2K year 2048?? I mean last time I checked 1K was 1024.<br>Now that Y1.953125K, that's where the real problem lies..."<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,11,16,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:50 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I shouldn't think it would matter if they're blocked during warp flight. Turning on the impulse engines at warp will do, um, jack-****. :-)<P>------------------<BR>"I see you've found your Nausicaan friend. You seem unimpaled so far..."<br>-Q to Picard, "Tapestry" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Antagonist</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,11,19,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:05 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <br>Werll, according to the theory of movement and propulsion, you must have a clear path out the back of a spacecraft to make it go forward. If that path is blocked, then the reaction matter (in this case the hot plasma) will hit the ship, thus counteracting the propulsive effect. At the least, it would be inefficient. And they are "Bussard" collectors, not the "Buzzard" collectors. <IMG SRC="http://solareclipse.net/Forums/smile.gif"><p>Variable warp-geometry designs aren't only for moving the nacelles pylons for the impulse engines, of course, and I assume you know that.<p>I suggest relocating them completely. I would have to see a diagram of your ship to suggest a better place.<P>------------------<BR>GET THE MONEY!<br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Altair</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,12,6,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 12, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:54 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes, I know what the variable geometry nacelles are for.<br>As for my kitbash project, I dropped this idea completely, because I could not find a solution that looks good.<br>I'm now working on kitbashing a ship that I think has never been kitbashed by anyone.<p><br>BTW: I'm offline until monday. Maybe then I am finished with my new project.<p>------------------<br>"Isn't Y2K year 2048?? I mean last time I checked 1K was 1024.<br>Now that Y1.953125K, that's where the real problem lies..."<p><p><small>[This message was edited by Altair on May 12, 1999.]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,12,18,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 12, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> You can't be serious....the Excelsior-kitbash?<P>------------------<BR>What bloke invented signatures? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Altair</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,4,17,5,12,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:12 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It's online now.<br>I called it the Twilight class.<P>------------------<BR>"Isn't Y2K year 2048?? I mean last time I checked 1K was 1024.<br>Now that Y1.953125K, that's where the real problem lies..."<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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