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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,9,17,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 09, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:27 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I love this ship (it's now my official favourite, I got bored with the <i>Akira</i>), and I got tired of seeing the same scans from the Encyclopaedia everywhere, so. . .<P><img src = "http://www.leenet.demon.co.uk/Images/Steamrunner.jpg"><P>If anyone wants me, I'll be hiding behind the door with a baseball bat for Sol to come in and say "you're just a tracer!" B) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mikey T</b> <br /><small>Member # 144</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,9,22,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 09, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:47 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> You know First, there's another pic of the Steamrunner Class in the ST: TNG Skethcbook. It's a nifty one, just that too bad I can't post it.<P>------------------<BR>"...the sky's the limit."<P>Picard's last words in "All Good Things..."<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aethelwer</b> <br /><small>Member # 36</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,9,22,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 09, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:51 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It's on Pedro's site, I think.<P>BTW, Lee, it's Jaegar, not Yeager. <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://frankg.dgne.com/</A> <BR>RB: "'Get a life' is a phrase heard a lot, though I have never known exactly what kind was implied. Seems a lot of shallowness and greed is the rule."<BR>CS: "I guess that it means the kind of life led by the characters of 'Dawson's Creek' or 'The Simpsons'." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Michael Dracon</b> <br /><small>Member # 4</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,10,9,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:35 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3/images/SteamRevamp.jpg"> <P>------------------<BR>"Calm may work for Locutus of the Borg here,<BR>but I'm freaked out, and I intend to stay that way!"<P>- Xander, <I>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</I><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,10,14,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> No, Mike, not that one. . . there's an actual photo of the CGI model, which looks crap - still images of CGI ships always do. It clears up a few things such as the howling difference between the navelle grilles on the two views above. . . but I didn't have that photo handy - and besides, it's so blurred it gives me a headache. One day I'll get around to incorporating some features of the photo into the diagram above.<P>And Jaeger-Schmaeger. He knows stuff all about designing Star Trek ships as Altair's pic shows - the deflector would kill everyone on the bridge the first time it was used. And he never responded to that email we sent, so f***'im. 8) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Michael Dracon</b> <br /><small>Member # 4</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,10,14,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:56 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Do you mean this one?<BR>(Click on it to get a bigger one in a new window)<BR><a href="http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Station/8488/st/ships/Steamrunner-class.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Station/8488/st/tn/Steamrunner-class.gif" border="0"></a><P>Note that the other pic I posted states: USS St<B>R</B>eamrunner Revamp.<P> <IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/az/Altair3/images/Revamp.jpg"> <BR>------------------<BR>"Calm may work for Locutus of the Borg here,<BR>but I'm freaked out, and I intend to stay that way!"<P>- Xander, <I>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</I><P>[This message has been edited by Altair (edited July 10, 1999).]<p>[This message has been edited by Altair (edited July 10, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mikey T</b> <br /><small>Member # 144</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,10,18,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:52 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Wow, it was originally a Streamrunner Class starship. <P>------------------<BR>"...the sky's the limit."<P>Picard's last words in "All Good Things..."<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mikey T</b> <br /><small>Member # 144</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,10,18,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:54 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Oh First, I actually have a CGI shot of the Akira Class made for First Contact. It's like the Steamrunner Class pic that is on Pedro's website.<P>------------------<BR>"...the sky's the limit."<P>Picard's last words in "All Good Things..."<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> <br /><small>Member # 15</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,10,19,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:08 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Post it post it post it!<P>------------------<BR><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,10,19,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 10, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:27 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Where did you get it? The omission of the <i>Akira</i> from the Sketchbook, when they'd included the other three FC Ships, never made sense.<P>As for the <i>Streamrunner</i>, it's a telling difference, and I wonder why it was changed. Surely the whole Encyclopaedia can't have been wrong? And besides, if I remember correctly someone had already revealed the names of the 4 ships long before the Encyclopedia came out. Mind you, we didn't know what a <i>Steamrunner</i> is, and we don't know what a <i>Streamrunner</i>!<P>Next up, I think I'll do the <i>Norway</i>. . . 8) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mikey T</b> <br /><small>Member # 144</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,11,1,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:33 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I just e-mailed a copy to Fabrux. And didn't I e-mail you also First? As for Federation Shipmaster, I'll e-mail him the pic since I have no clue on how to post it here. Oh, I found the pic on the Star Trek in Sound and Vision site.<P>------------------<BR>"...the sky's the limit."<P>Picard's last words in "All Good Things..."<BR><p>[This message has been edited by Michael_T (edited July 11, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,11,9,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:10 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *finally gets around to posting in here*<P>Top notch work, Lee. If they had people like you working for them down there, there'd be a lot more consistency in the starships seen on the shows. <P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fabrux.virtualave.net" TARGET=_blank>Fabrux's Starship Page</A> <BR>"Go? Where are we going?"<BR>"Where they went."<BR>"Suppose they went nowhere."<BR>"Then, this'll be your big chance to get away from it all"<BR><I>-McCoy and Kirk, The Wrath of Khan</I> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,11,10,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:32 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *blushes* Oh, heck, it's just tracing. It's thanks to The Vorlon that I can use PSP 5 at all. . .<P>As for this pic, I now know the one you mean. I do have it, and it's of far superior quality to the other three as featured in the Sketchbook. I have two versions, the one originally scanned by either IDC or Pedro, which needed a lot of cleaning up. . . but before I got ver far with it, the folks at STinSnV got there first.<P>And no, I haven't received any email. . . and now you mention it I haven't received any at all for a few days. Odd. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Michael Dracon</b> <br /><small>Member # 4</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,11,15,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:27 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Station/8488/st/ships/Akira-class.jpg" target="_blank">The one from STinSV</a><P>------------------<BR>"Calm may work for Locutus of the Borg here,<BR>but I'm freaked out, and I intend to stay that way!"<P>- Xander, <I>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</I><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,11,20,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:55 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before but look at the rim of the saucer and the phaser strip - its not actually a smooth circle - you can see its a polygon... I mean circles ARE polygons - but this one needs a few more sides to make it look more 'circular'.<P>------------------<BR>"Ooh, FASA." - The Shadow, aka Frank G - June 1999<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,7,2,7,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 02, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:37 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I've nearly finished my version of the <i>Norway</i> - or the top view anyway. What I need is the corresponding CGI pic from the Movie Sketchbook for comparison purposes, see if there's anything I can add. I'd also like the side view from the Encyclopaedia if anyone has it - the one on Pedro's site is tiny. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,7,8,14,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 08, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:26 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I think the steamrunner looks better upside down, like on Altair's sketch!<P>------------------<BR>Hickory Is Nice!!!<BR>(Jem 'Hadar Wash-out) <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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