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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
*brings it to the top*
Thank you, Fabrux.
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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :
I would love to help out...
This is like best guess and no kitbashing?
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Well, I wouldn't say there's no kitbashing.... I really can't answer that question. Bernd?
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
My feeling is that there are good kitbashed designs such as the Miranda and Nebula and bad ones like the Fact Files Niagara, the Yeager and the Constitution-Intrepid. It depends on the components used and the way they are arranged.
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Posted by Deep6 on :
All I can say is that the Bradbury class isnt a ship, its a boat...look at the forward and aft views, those arent warp nacelles, those are pontoons!! Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
"In case of an emergency landing this ship may serve as a floatation device". Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
Hm... Too bad there's already an Apollo design from the show, and the one there doesn't look anything like it...
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Yes, we will probably have to remove it from the list. IIRC it was some kind of triangular ship, but I guess it had warp nacelles, so it was not the Mondor or Jovis. Could it be the same as the frequently seen Bajoran freighter?
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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :
I always thought that everyone agreed the Bradbury was an intrepid without moving nacelles.
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I've never heard that one before.
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I know which one Bear means. It's based on the Intrepid but with galaxy-like nacelles. And the pylons are pointed up and backwards, like on the Sovereign.
Damn it, I have the picture right here but I don't know how to post images!!! Could anyone tell me?
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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :
I always like to believe it to be the predecessor of the intrepid.
Kind of, Sunspot. But it looks really bigfoot to me. It would be best with prometheus-nacelles. But if it's the predecessor to the Intrepid it has to have older nacelles. "sigh"
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
I think it looks better like this
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
I like the version of the Bradbury Fabrux posted because it's not exactly an Intrepid kitbash, but looks like a separate ship class. We already have yakaspat's design, but there is room for other suggestions...
Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :
I second the motion for the design posted by Fabrux. Do I hear a third?
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Extremely yes!!! And then some.
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Posted by Laz1701 on :
I also prefer the design Fabrux posted... but that's because I'm the guy who created it! I came up with it shortly after Voyager premiered, and based it on the Intrepid.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Laz! I was just about to email you suggesting you check this place out!
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Posted by Laz1701 on :
Actually, I've been lurking on the boards for a couple of weeks now, but I hadn't gotten around to becoming a member.
I have a question. Does anyone have a diagram or image of the Republic class heavy cruiser? It's supposed to be an upgraded Ambassador, and I need to include it on my site. Also the Europa explorer, which is supposed to be a 4-nacelled Galaxy.
Oh, the Europa....well, I've seen diagrams on the Bravo Fleet website and the Vahalla Fleet website. It's like a Galaxy, only it has the super-duper cannon on the bottom of the saucer, and the nacelles are either like an "x" or like a "+", I'm not sure....
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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Am I the only one here who has no clue what he is talking about...?
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
Laz1701: Is it correct your Bradbury is an essentially different design than the Intrepid, I mean, similar, but not using any Intrepid components?
As I said, there is room for alternative designs...
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Posted by Laz1701 on :
Yes, it's a different design that uses no Intrepid components at all. In fact, all its components are new, especially the engines. It's sort of an intermediate step between the Galaxy and the Intrepid. I've seen the schematic of it that's on the Starship Schematics site, and that schematic is wrong, as it shows an Intrepid with Ambassador nacelles. That schematic seems to be an attempt to approximate my design using already existing components.
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
That's exactly what I thought. I first saw your nice little schematic and it was pleasant to see it was not just an Intrepid kitbash as opposed to the Intrepid-Ambassador at Starship Schematics which is neither credible nor creative.
Did you ever create larger schematics and top views of your ship designs? I'm asking this with our ASDB in mind.
Posted by Laz1701 on :
I've never done larger versions or multiple views, just those small profiles. However, once I'm done with all the ships I still have to put up on my site, I might do some multiple views of my own designs.
I, too, use Laz's pictures on my site, but I asked permission as well as crediting him and John Maltz and of course, the link. I have been using his designs in my Filemaker Pro Starship database for about 5 years now and I am very greatful as a result. As usual, I always look forward to more stuff from him as well as others I've seen.
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There's been a lot of stuff added since the last time this thread was seen..
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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Wow, some stuff in this topic I've never heard of! Have we seen the Deneva Class?? And what or who are the Mondor or the Jovis?? Is the Bajoran freighter the thing we see in the DS9 intro docked at the station? Europa explorer?!?
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
We saw the Deneva for about 3 nanoseconds in "Legacy". The Mondor and the Jovis are a generic freighter-type design, like seen in the opening credits of DS9. The Europa explorer is a Galaxy with a heavy phaser on the bottom of the saucer and 4 nacelles in either an "x" or a "+", I can't remember.
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
It was there longer than that! Although it was an exploding grey dot, it was intact for at least a second! Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :
Bradbury Sucks!!! Wasn't Korolev seen already?
Posted by Marko Latin on :
Fourth comming up!
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