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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,11,14,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:48 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Here is a page I whipped up: <A HREF="http://fabrux.virtualave.net/comparison.html" TARGET=_blank>Comparison</A><P>This compares my older kitbashes with their new versions. Comment away!<P>And incidentally: I'm having a little trouble with the HTML on that page. I was trying to get the ship names to span the 2 columns with the name in the middle, but it didn't work...<P>------------------<BR>Go brain go.<BR>-Qualcomm sloagan <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,11,18,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:40 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Is anyone else having problems accessing this page? Garak can only get half of it. I can get the whole thing on my machine and my parents's. <P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fabrux.virtualave.net" TARGET=_blank>Fabrux's Starship Page</A><BR>Now with only 1 popup!<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aethelwer</b> <br /><small>Member # 36</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,11,20,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 11, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It stops before the Young-class images for some reason.<P>Put the colspan=2 in the td tag instead of the tr.<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>Frank's Home Page</A><BR>"I can't find any good quotations." - Frank G <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,13,15,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 13, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:48 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Hello? Is anybody there? Why is it that the only person to have posted in this thread is the most pro-canon-only person on this board?<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fabrux.virtualave.net" TARGET=_blank>Fabrux's Starship Page</A><BR>Now with only 1 popup!<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Gaseous Anomaly</b> <br /><small>Member # 114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,15,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:07 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *Decides he had better check it out, lest Fabrux kitbashes him. Joking.*<BR> Right, here we go.<P><UL TYPE=SQUARE><BR><LI> <I>Accos</I><BR>Has Accos and Accos of space, ya know. Cha-ha?<BR>Only good thing about the new one is the freaky deflector. Keep the rest of the old stuff.<P><LI> <I>Alabama</I><BR>Bridge has it's own porch, rocking chair and spare box of shell casings.<BR>I can't tell the difference except I presume you left out the blue in the nacelle. Please say it's two nacelles, and not the one that I fear => FREEDOM!! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/frown.gif"><P><LI> <I>Alpine</I><BR>Coming soon in new 'Spring', 'Autumn' and 'Malibu' scents, so your washing can smell better than ever.<BR>New one looks miles better with the swept back and lowered nacelles.<P><LI> <I>Boraj</I><BR>Drop the Sov's nacelles back further, IM(H)O. Newer better happier more productive. Blah blah etc. Love the name - where'd you get it?<P><LI> <I>Danath</I><BR>It's a freak. Sorry. Change it to a bigger saucer - that might redeem it a bit. A bit. That means "not much".<P><LI> <I>Dyson</I><BR>I'd honestly need a top & a front view before I'd go all Pilate on it. Put the nacelles back the other way, though.<P><LI> <I>Eudoxus</I> (such a name!!)<BR>Then the Jews returned to mine the Red Sea.<BR>I'd probably bust a gut laughing if I saw a head-on view of the new version. Prefer the older one in almost all respects.<P><LI> <I>Fishel</I><BR>Ah, innit cute? Newer one is better. Where does one relieve oneself whilst on board?<P><LI> <I>Gauntlet</I><BR>Hasn't this been done on the series? Fabrux, you're gonna be RICH!!!<BR>Seriously: newer one looks the better. Definitely.<BR>Actually, try leaving the old nacelles the way they were, and using the newer (higher) saucer.<P><LI> <I>Hawk</I><BR>Now we're talking. And it's only me typing. Oh well.<BR>I presume those were Soyuz-ish pods sticking port and starboard in the original. Glad they're gone.<BR>Hmm. Engines look too small in proportion to the rest of the body. Soverign engines, with 3/4s of the nacelles aft of the pylon, perchance? Flatten the dorsal section of the saucer?<P><LI> <I>Icehammer</I><BR>*Stifles giggling*<BR>Well, it's different, to say the least. Like the new nacelles. Your own design?<P><LI> <I>Juta</I><BR>Secondary hull is WAY too large, in both. I honestly don't know which one I don't not like the least. I think.<P><LI> <I>Maxell</I><BR>Actually, I prefer the original. The new nacelles are better though.<P><LI> <I>Mercator</I> (I can see the bottom of the page!)<BR>A ship whose bum doesn't look big in anything.<BR>It seriouly needs an arse of some type; the tapering hull at the back does not sit well with me.<BR>The rest, however, sits suprisingly well on my lap.<BR>Invert the nacelles, or try a Sabre's (i.e. a nacelle with half its length covered so that a pylon can grab onto something, like the Sabre).<P><LI> <I>Morrisey</I> <BR>Presumably a ship of wailing torment and 80's style deprivation.<BR>Newer one...is...the...better. The slung-forward neck slings it, I mean swings it.<P><LI> <I>Oracle</I><BR>Comes complete with TV listings, weather and all the best showbiz gossip.<BR>I presume that the 'old' Oracle was the 'new' Hawk.<BR>Prefer the old Oracle out of the two.<P><LI> <I>Saluke</I><BR>Stand to attention, you 'orrible lot!<BR>Don't like either. Sorry.<P><LI> <I>Young</I><BR>Same for these ones. Sorry again.<BR></UL><P>Happy now, Fabrux? <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>I wish someone paid me the same attention. *Sobs*<BR>Ah well, off to the College Bar.<P>*Hopes to f*ck the server lets me post this*<BR><P>------------------<BR>"So, no room for Bender, huh? Well I'll build my own lunar lander, with blackjack, and hookers.<BR>In fact, who needs a lander, or blackjack? <BR>Ah, screw the whole lot o' ya!"<BR>-- Bender, Futurama.<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,14,16,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 14, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:57 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, guess where I am. I'm here at NBTel's Living Lab and I'm posting from a TV. Isn't that different? Anyways, as you can tell, I can't make any changes here. I may do a thing or two when I get home.<P>A little thing on the <I>Hawk</I> and <I>Oracle</I> classes: They're practically the same thing, only the <I>Oracle</I> is a science ship and the <I>Hawk</I> is more or less a battleship.<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fabrux.virtualave.net" TARGET=_blank>Fabrux's Starship Page</A><BR>Now with only 1 popup!<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,23,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:37 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Okay. Here we go...<P><UL TYPE=SQUARE><BR><LI><I>Accos</I><BR>The only differences between the old one and the new one are the change of color in the deflector dishes, the SF arrowhead on the pylon, and the formation lights.<P><LI><I>Alabama</I><BR>Of course it only has one nacelle! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"> No, it has two. Yes, I took the blue out of the nacelle. It looks better this way. Also, the red on the ship now goes from light to dark and vice versa, instead of the same color on the whole ship. Again, it also has the new SF arrowhead.<P><LI><I>Alpine</I><BR>I think so too.<P><LI><I>Boraj</I><BR>The name came from somewhere that I can't remember right now *looks in Encyclopedia* Okay, so it's not in there. IIRC, I was watching a documentary on TLC one night and it was the name of an ancient city or something. The correct pronunciation is BORje<P><LI><I>Danath</I><BR>I actually like it. It's a light dreadnought, about the size of the <I>Intrepid</I>.<P><LI><I>Dyson</I><BR>The nacelles actually can't be the other way. See how the pylon latches on to the blue part? That's not possible in Trek.<P><LI><I>Eudoxus</I><BR>You like the older version better? What are you on? The first one was a result of some kitbashing with little Micro Machines. I think I like the second one much better. It's like a fast something-or-other.<BR>N.B. - The name of this ship came from the period of time when I wasn't very creative, so I looked in the Encyclopedia and copied down the names of all the craters on the moon that I liked <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P><LI><I>Fishel</I><BR>Of course it's cute. And one goes to the bathroom to relieve oneself, of course.<P><LI><I>Gauntlet</I><BR>Yeah, the newer one has impulse engines. You can see them if you look closely. And I prefer the nacelles the way ther are. Makes it look bigger.<P><LI><I>Hawk</I><BR>To me, this ship and it's scientific counterpart are too perfect to change. The pod on the <I>Hawk</I> is from the <I>Akira</I>, BTW. <I>Sovereign</I> engines might not be too bad of an idea, though.<P><LI><I>Icehammer</I><BR>What's so funny? Yes, the nacelles are my own design. This ship was specifically designed for running supplies between planets in the Zeta Aquilae System.<P><LI><I>Juta</I><BR>This one stays the way it is. I've always considered it a perfect reminder to myself of what <I>not</I> to do when kitbashing.<P><LI><I>Maxell</I><BR>*compares the 2 pics* They're the same bloody ship! Only difference is that the pod and the things on the side are the proper ones, it has the new SF arrowhead on the pylon, and the nacelle has blue glowy thingy. That's it.<P><LI><I>Mercator</I><BR>What should I do, give it a shuttlebay or something?<P><LI><I>Morrisey</I><BR>I can't remember what my inspiration was for this. But I know one thing's for sure: Here's an unauthorized pic of it on someone's webpage(and a horrible one at that): <A HREF="http://www.f1.net.au/users/worf/starships/moris.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.f1.net.au/users/worf/starships/moris.htm</A> I had originally made it as an ASCII file.<P><LI><I>Oracle</I><BR>Well, the <I>Oracle</I> is the same spaceframe as the <I>Hawk</I>, but it's internal arrangement is totally different. This one has sensor suites, labs aplenty, everything a true science ship needs. Usually it operates with a <I>Hawk</I> on the fringes of Federation space<P><LI><I>Saluke</I><BR>Indeed, the <I>Saluke</I> didn't turn out right. So, I turned it into a lowly carrier. <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/frown.gif"><P><LI><I>Young</I><BR>Intended to be a Perimeter Aciton ship, I think these will be scouts now.<BR></UL><P>Now I'm happy, GA <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fabrux.virtualave.net" TARGET=_blank>Fabrux's Starship Page</A><BR>Now with only 1 popup!<P><p>[This message has been edited by Fabrux (edited October 15, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Enterprise</b> <br /><small>Member # 48</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,23,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:52 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I like....<P>I can't really speak of any gripes, as both the old and new versions are cool....<P>------------------<BR>Brandon "Enterprise" Grasmick<br>Commanding Officer, USS <i>Sovereign</i> (NX-74222)<p>"Captain, the Sona crew are willing to negotiate a cease fire. It may have something to do with the fact that we have 3 minutes of air left."<br>-- Worf<p><i>Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges</i><br>-- In time of war the law falls silent.<br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,15,23,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 15, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:54 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Do you ever say anything bad about my work, Brando? <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/wink.gif"><P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fabrux.virtualave.net" TARGET=_blank>Fabrux's Starship Page</A><BR>Now with only 1 popup!<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Gaseous Anomaly</b> <br /><small>Member # 114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,9,17,10,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:53 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes, Fabrux.<BR>I'm happy. Thrilled even.<BR>Can't you tell by the sound of my gravelly voice? <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/wink.gif"><P>------------------<BR>"So, no room for Bender, huh? Well I'll build my own lunar lander, with blackjack, and hookers.<BR>In fact, who needs a lander, or blackjack? <BR>Ah, screw the whole lot o' ya!"<BR>-- Bender, Futurama.<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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