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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :

Hey Gang,

Has anyone worked out a Dominion War time line? I have been thinking about making a series of top-down maps of the events and tides of the war, with Fleet stats and movements, but, I really need a text-outline of the war itself. Anyone seen or heard of such a thing? I saw all the final eps, but, I don't have a good enough memory to recall all the details.

-Lance http://thetrekker.homestead.com

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

Well, in the last episode the female Changeling stated something about being at war with the Federation for two years, but I think it was actually from two-and-a- half to three years.

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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :

Yeah, I know it was about 3 years my good man. What I mean is, a time line, like, in months (episodes, etc), telling when, for example,

-The Centaur was lost
-The MIA List was posted (so we know when those ships were lost)
-The initial invasion
-When Dukhat (no pun intended) contacted the Dominion
-When the Klingons invaded
-When the Romulan/Cardassian Fleet was chopped to shreds when trying to find the Homeworld...well, Tau Shiar and Obsidian Order Fleets anyway...
-Battle of Chintoka
-When Betazed was attacked
-When Earth was attacked
-When the Siege at AR-115 (or whatever) took place.

See what I mean? I know there has to be some anal trekker out there who wrote all this down!!! LOL

Thanks,
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

IIRC, it was two years. The war didn't start until Dukat and his forces attacked DS9 forcing the Starfleet withdrawal. The time between the Cardies joining the Dominion and the DS9 attack was just increased tension, but no formal declaration of war.

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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :

That may be so, but, I think, when examining the conflict, you have to take into account the events leading up to that. We don't just focus on events following Pearl Harbor when discussing WWII (from the American perspective). I'd like to see a timeline of events from the moment were heard about the Dominion up until the end of the final season.

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

If you want events going back to when we first heard about the Dominion, then you'll have to go back to the middle of DS9's second season when Quark attempts to establish trading with the Gamma Quadrant. Otherwise go to the last episode of the second season when we first find out about their hostile intent.

Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :

Indeed, we should go all the way back as you suggest. Maybe I'll just wait for the next Chronology addition....LOL...

Lance http://thetrekker.homestead.com

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Oh, and Lance, be careful in the future. Dukat is a Cardassian from DS9, Dukhat is a Minbari from Babylon 5

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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :

*wonders why caution is necessary*

Is it coincidence the two concurrent scifi series B5 and DS9 had a character called "Dukat", no matter what the spelling?

Mmmm....

-Lance

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

Yes, it's a complete coincidence.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Hmm, I could see a career-making project evolving out of this...

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Actually, going back to the 2nd season is just a beginning. You'd have to go back centuries to witness the Founders sending the hundred babies into the galaxy to explore it - Odo's backstory is essential to the unfolding of the war. Or you'd have to go back 2000 years to see the Dominion become the dominant power in its own space, as suggested by Weyoun in "To the Death". Or even longer back to see the Changelings being persecuted and driven to this monomania of subjugating all Solids so that they can no longer be a threat.

And on the other hand, you'd have to go back to Earth's history to find out why the Feds kept on pushing into Gamma space even when the Dominion revealed itself and told them to stay out.

So basically you'll have to read just about the entire Chronology to understand what's going on. I hope an updated edition will come out after Voyager wraps up.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

You'd have to include the Vorta and how they helped a Changeling...

I wonder if we could include Tosk and the hunters of the Tosk as reference to the Dominion...

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

About Tosk-hunters, if they are inferior to the Dominion then why haven't the Jem 'Hadars those good armor-pads the hunters had? And didn't their croosbow-guns look very much like the Jem 'Hadars guns?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Somehow I doubt the authenticity of the "Vorta helps wounded Changeling" story. I'd imagine the Founders have constructed an entire mythology designed to reinforce certain behaviors in both the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar.

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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

The Federation pushed forward because the space near the wormhole near the gamma quadrant is not dominion space and they probably (at the time)did not realise how big and powerful the dominion was.

PS. When was the centaur destroyed? I thought it survived the battle to retake DS9.

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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :

Good point...I really don't know if it was destroyed or not.

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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

In the encyclopeia it states the Centaur was not destroyed and there is a mention in the novelisation of the battle to retake Ds9 (sacrifice of angels).

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Posted by RAMA (Member # 380) on :

Something like this timeline has already been done actually...in the expanded THe Great Link Dominion War Guide.

Here's the addy:
http://www.greatlink.org/dominion/dominion-index.html

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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :

SUPER!!! Thanks man. :-)

Lance

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Didn't think about the fact that "Captive Pursuit" was like the fourth DS9-ep ever, so the Jem' Hadar didn't even exist then.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

Look here, Lance! www.greatlink.org

Click on 'The Races' and then on Dominon Arc.

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