Thanks bunches man!
Ahkileez
[ June 15, 2002, 07:04: Message edited by: Ahkileez ]
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Good to see you back again, I simply thought you'd gone off line...
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Here's a retextured version of this ship:
I think this is the one Trek ship I'm not at all passionate about. I think this design was probably thrown together quite hastily for First Contact.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Lookin' really sweet...but a couple of things to add in:
The bridge and surrounding superstructure should be more forward- almost to that "deflector trench".
The saucer is mossing some pinstriping and RCS thrusters nut that's nothing major.
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When I built my model of the Norway I went with the smae kind of deflector that Voyager has on it's nose. Near as I can tell, the "trench deflector" was first created by ASK Models for their rendition, then Fact Files used it and finally Nova hobbies also used a varaition of it.
The top view from the Encycloprdia seems to lean more toward the flat "intrepid style" secondary deflector built into the saucer.
Whatever you personally prefer, of course.
I have not seen the "engineering block thingie" behind the bridge raised like that before.
All the other versions I've seen have that part recessed.
Kinda cool though.
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Where ya putting your impulse engine(s)?
Some have two on the back sides of the "arrowheads" with a small shuttlebay inbetween the naelle pylons but my version is the opposite: two big shuttlebays and a galaxy-style impulse engine between the nacelles.
My version for your approval:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1301771&uid=657989
Posted by Capt.Blair245 (Member # 1113) on :
IMO the saucer looks a little too small. You might want to make the saucer a little farther foward. Other than that looks really neat 2 me.
Blair
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I have often wondered if the Norway could be a container tug, in the same vein of the old Ptolemy-Class. It would certainly help explain the supposedly variable position nacelles and the small number of armaments.
It might be interesting if you built some containers with the same crossection as the aft face of the 'saucer' and have them docked under the pylons.
As for the impulse engines, my instinct would be to have a small pair at the upper-aft end of the pylons, similar the the Akira's.
Either that or have a long impulse thruster strip along the aft edge of the pylons.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
NICE! But - yeah - there is something about the saucer that doesn't look right - too smooth I think. I think the Norway is a bit more... angled - i.e. if you ran your hand along it's top surface - it'd be faceted - not smooth.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
It is a little smoother and more rounded, but the ship dimensions are about right, with the exception of the deflector 'pit' being slightly narrower, and the armed structure around the bridge being a little shorter. I built this originally for Ahkileez who specified certain amendments to the original design, so you could perhaps call it a slight variant of the Norway Class (he also wanted it grey anyway, hence the earlier version).
Other views: (revealing impulse engines)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Nice.
I DEFINITELY prefer the nacelles "down".
If you make the ventral side, please don't use the terrible version from Fact Files!
I used the ventral side to add some nessities:
two phaser strips, two transporter emitters and eight Sovvie-style lifeboats.
My variant ( USS Pike ) also has a Sovvie quantum torpedo launcher down there- slightly recessed so as not to be obvious.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
The Norway nacelles aren't variable like that - like the Intrepid - they move backwards and forwards within the pylon - along the 'tracks' that are promenant on the top of the nacelles of the well known pic from the movie sketch book.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
No they don't. Or haven't.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
It is a theory, nothing more.
But for some reason I prefer the sliding nacelles over the Intrepid fold-ups.
Of course I'd also prefer it if the pylons were curved instead of straight.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Well, whatever the case maybe, I'm not bothered. The model built for the film is so poor that fine detail is of little importance here. On another note my latest project is the Olympic Class, which was originally a far more detailed (physical) model, and a better design. I'm modelling it in high and fastidious detail to make it the definitive Olympic mesh on the net (i've seen very few anyway). Expect some WIP renders soon...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :