Some updates, thanks to the new Kyushu photos. I'm also (for now) going along with the theory that there is a shuttle bay behind the bridge.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
that looks rad! i've always had a soft spot in my heart for the new orleans class. i should probably go see a cardiologist about that...
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
I sorta have a soft spot for RA's work, another beauty.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The speed with which you do this stuff both amazes and frightens me. Great stuff!
Mark
Mark
Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Meesa like.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Ohh, RA, could you perhaps do a recreation of the unseen meeting at Detallix B from "Conspiracy"?
There was 1 Galaxy, 1 Ambassador and 2 New Orleans Class starships I think.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Yup, there was one Ambassador-Class; (U.S.S. Horatio NCC-10532) and two New Orleans-Class ships; (U.S.S. Renegade NCC-63102 & U.S.S. Thomas Paine NCC-65530) Plus of course, the Enterprise-D.
It would also be interesting to see some Cardassian War scenes featuring the Rutledge.
BTW - I'm almost certain that the Kyushu had 3 impulse engines.
Posted by Nimpim (Member # 205) on :
Didn't those marker-pen things on the saucer go along the surface of the saucer, instead of sticking out in the air?
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
Red Admiral,
Beautiful piece of art. One small nitpick- The U.S.S. New Orleans has to have a registry lower than NCC-57295 which is the registry of the U.S.S. Rutledge, a New Orleans Class starship.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
No they definitely stick out in the air. They perhaps look a little strange, but heh, there you go...
I didn't speed model this by the way. It's not possible to build something like this in a day. The New Orleans mesh goes back to last year, but with the clarity of the new model photos I was able to make some refinements. The pods were remodelled and the pylons altered slightly, that's all. And of course I threw together these new images.
The Conspriracy scene...? Hmm, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of that one. I'd have to tidy up my Ambassador a bit, it's been some while since I worked on that, but yeh, that scene is workable. I'll have to capture some shots of Dytallix B as well for reference.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Newark. Yes I know. It was purely an oversight when I modelled it. I completely missed the Rutledge registry which is lower than the others. When I finally noticed this I cursed out loud many times, believe me. As the reg is modelled into the saucer (I emply a different, fool proof method now), and not textured, it is not an easy, nor quick task to solve the problem. It would take several hours of work to edit the saucer and apply a new registry. Call me lazy, but I just haven't had the motivation to do it, as yet.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Next, a shot of the NO with her contemporaries - stuff like the Steamrunner and Springfield, in a battle group headed up by an Ambassador. Anti-cardie taskforce, anyone?
Mark
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Ok then, Dytallix B it is. This was difficult, positioning the ships that is. We have to assume that all the ships were in separate orbits, being fairly far apart, obviously due to the fact we didn't see any of them in the 'Conspiracy' footage (that and TPTB hadn't built/designed them yet), so, they are quite distant to the camera. But you get the overall impression.... And yes, the planet isn't a precise match.
what we saw:
what we didn't? (800x600) Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
nice shot, RA, but you need to turn the Enterprise's saucer impulse engines off.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Great work as always RA! However, you might want to put a light over on the right hand side of the frame, to match the original screen cap better and so that the ships aren't in shadow so much.
As you can see, the Kyushu dose have three impulse engines and the neck merges into the saucer like on the Galaxy. You may also notice that the back ends of the pods are grey and not black like they are at the front.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Yes, ok, I'm more or less convinced there is a third impulse engine. So I'll model one, and change the pods to grey at the back.
But hey! I didn't miss everything. There is one fairly significant error with this N.O. Not my fault, just of lack of info from old reference pics. No-one here has spotted it yet though...
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Would that be the lack of a secondary hull ventral undercut, the absence of shuttlebays 2 & 3 on the neck (which would be just cargo bays at this scale), or that your mesh doesn't reflect the fact that the 10-Forward windows seam to have become the backup deflector while the Galaxy's backup is just a group of windows on the Kyushu?
I could also point out that there should be an apparent separation plate even though the ship probably doesn't separate, that the window and escape pod hatch patterns aren't quite right, that the bridge module is a custom job and is not identical to the Galaxy's, that there are supposed to be phaser arrays on the pylons and that there should be a pair of transport emitters on the underside of the saucer, flanking the forward tip of the neck (plus one more under each of the saucer's impulse engines, one on each pylon and a pair flanking the lowermost pod)....but that would be nitpicking Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Jeez, rip it apart why don't you!
Lol, but no, you still haven't identified it. It's simply the fact that on the Kyushu photos you can see that the back of the saucer runs smooth and flush into the neck. My N.O saucer is continuous at the back, and the neck is separate. Not that I knew this when I modelled it...
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Actually I did spot that
"...there should be an apparent separation plate..." Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Maybe the two pods come into play when the saucer section is separated? Sort of a precursor to the Prometheus?
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