A document uncovered from the ruins of old Los Angeles by a Daystrome Institute diving team, only minor water damage.
Posted by Trimm (Member # 865) on :
Oooh that is very cool. I like the water damage effect.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Diving team?!?! What the hell happened out there?
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
...and a design from Chronowerx I see...very nice touch, that, and the DY acronym...
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote: Oooh that is very cool. I like the water damage effect.
Personally I think the wave effect is a bit much, but the program I use won't allow wavelengths longer than 100 pixels...oh well.
quote: Diving team?!?! What the hell happened out there?
If I remember correctly there is a line in "Future's End" that says that LA (and presumably the surrounding coastline) fell into the Pacific Ocean sometime in the 21st Century. I'm actually having a hard time backing this up, I can't find any references to it in any of the sites I've check with. Can anyone who has the episode handy or can remember the line confirm or deny this for me?
quote: ...and a design from Chronowerx I see...very nice touch, that, and the DY acronym...
While writing my DY Family article it occurred to me that by making the DY company a subsidiary of Chronowerx I could solve two problems at once. Those problems being the origin of the Botany Bay's supposedly advanced technology (I really didn't like Greg Cox's Area 51 explanation) and this ship was built and launched in secret, since only a large global corporation would have the political swing and the financial clout to pull off Khan's escape without CNN getting wind of it.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Is there any connection between Kahn's sleeper ship and the S.S. Birdseye!?! Both were from roughly the same time. Maybe the DY is an 'Eastern' production - i.e. the Supermen and orbital vessels like the Birdseye were what the West were doing with the cryogenic tech. Maybe Kahn and co. used the Birdseye-cryogenic idea and adapted it to a ship?
Posted by Wee Bairns (Member # 724) on :
Very nice, Reverend. Old Los Angeles, eh??
Regards Wb
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
Reference source is "Future's End, Part 1". In the episode, Captain Janeway says LA will be destroyed by the Hermosa Earthquake of 2049. Apparently, from my understanding of other earthquakes, the city is consumed by the ocean soon after the quake.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Speaking of under the sea - shouldn't the Atlantis project be finished on Earth by Nemesis!?! We never see that new 'continent' appear in any 'Earth' episodes.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Possibly the designers realized that it was the WORST IDEA EVER and went with something more sensible, like nicer apartments in Barcelona or something.
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
hmm i would make it a bit less saturated. it looks a bit cartoonish.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Yeah it could be a little more weathered/washed out.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Hermosa Quake of 2047. And it's Singh, not Singe.
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Speaking of under the sea - shouldn't the Atlantis project be finished on Earth by Nemesis!?! We never see that new 'continent' appear in any 'Earth' episodes.
But if the 'Atlantis' project IS under the sea, we wouldn't see it from orbit. Was the intention to manufacture an island, or an undersea colony?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Corrected a few mistakes and had another go at water damage.
quote: Old Los Angeles, eh??
Maybe they built a new one, on Luna or Mars perhaps?
Cheers Newark and Shik, I knew i didn't imagine it. Just for the record though, which is it? 2049 or 2047?
As far as the Atlantis program goes I think they probably shit-canned the idea when they realised what bringing up a new sub-continent from the Atlantic seabed would do to the world's sea levels and coast lines. Apart from that, the impression that I got in "Family" was that the project was going nowhere with out a strong leader and since Picard declined the offer...
P.S. For those who are interested the diving team also uncovered a perfectly preserved CD-ROM containing the original file. Posted by Sarvek (Member # 910) on :
Awesome work, Reverend. What are your next plans? I really like your 29th century logo on the lower left of the page. Nice touch.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Is there any connection between Kahn's sleeper ship and the S.S. Birdseye!?! Both were from roughly the same time. Maybe the DY is an 'Eastern' production - i.e. the Supermen and orbital vessels like the Birdseye were what the West were doing with the cryogenic tech. Maybe Kahn and co. used the Birdseye-cryogenic idea and adapted it to a ship?
The freezers onboard the Birdseye were cryonic, not cryogenic. Those people were already corpses and were just being preserved until the technology exited that could heal their illnesses and revive them, to say nothing for repairing the cellular damage that would result from being frozen in the first place.
I think the only connection between the Botany Bay and the Birdseye is precisely how they got so far into deep space without warp drive. My own theory is that the sol system is home to one end of an unstable wormhole, which might also explain the voyages of the Charybdis, Nomad, Pioneer 11 (or was it 10?) and Voyager VI. Infact that might be the very wormhole that appeared in TMP, or was that one actually created by a warp in balance? Perhaps the warp imbalance simply attracted the worm hole since we already know from "Insurrection" that warp cores can act like magnets to subspace phenomena. Think it's worth discussing in starships & tech?
quote: Awesome work, Reverend. What are your next plans? I really like your 29th century logo on the lower left of the page. Nice touch.
Plan? me?? LOL! Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Or, perhaps, the crazy subspace eater thingy that swallowed the Ares IV.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Or, perhaps, the crazy subspace eater thingy that swallowed the Ares IV.
I got the impression that that orange wibbley thing was quite hard to escape from.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, yes. But it was a wonky subspace anomaly, and probably had all sorts of secondary effects, like whisking old space probes into Klingon space, maybe.
Or, I guess, I'm saying that there seem to be all sorts of such phenomena going on in our solar system, and they all seem loosely related.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by SoundEffect:
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Speaking of under the sea - shouldn't the Atlantis project be finished on Earth by Nemesis!?! We never see that new 'continent' appear in any 'Earth' episodes.
But if the 'Atlantis' project IS under the sea, we wouldn't see it from orbit. Was the intention to manufacture an island, or an undersea colony?
I new continent I believe. Why I don't know! Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Infact that might be the very wormhole that appeared in TMP, or was that one actually created by a warp in balance?
The imbalance caused the wormhole. I just watched the SE of TMP!! GREAT STUFF!
This morning I watched the extras... Mojo's on there! LOL! Hi Mojo! Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: Cheers Newark and Shik, I knew i didn't imagine it. Just for the record though, which is it? 2049 or 2047?
2047, of course.
Nice touch on the crew type. "Eugeno Sapians," indeed. Although, that should be "sapiens." Perhaps the usage of the old "Homo superior," "H. sapiens superior," or "H. sapiens eugenensis" as an alternative.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Eugenic == having to do with Eugene?!?!?!
The Eugenics wars WERE fought in 1992!!! over Gene's creations after his death in 1991!! OMG...
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote: Eugenic == having to do with Eugene?!?!?!
The Eugenics wars WERE fought in 1992!!! over Gene's creations after his death in 1991!! OMG...
Que Twilight Zone music....
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote: 2047, of course.
*Chris Tarrant voice* Are you POSITIVE?
quote: Nice touch on the crew type. "Eugeno Sapians," indeed. Although, that should be "sapiens." Perhaps the usage of the old "Homo superior," "H. sapiens superior," or "H. sapiens eugenensis" as an alternative.
It wouldn't be my first typo on this thing, besides I'm a bad speller and PSP doesn't have a spell checker. I never liked the term "Homo superior", since it doesn't sound at all scientific because it dosen't really allow for the possibility of an even more advanced form. "Homo Even-more-superior"? "Homo superior's superior"? "Homo superior deluxe"?
Your suggested alternatives are good possibilities but I doubt they'd fit in that little box. Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Well, yes. But it was a wonky subspace anomaly, and probably had all sorts of secondary effects, like whisking old space probes into Klingon space, maybe.
Or, I guess, I'm saying that there seem to be all sorts of such phenomena going on in our solar system, and they all seem loosely related.
Perhaps there's a funky subspace dual carriageway going through our system that attracts all these wayward anomalies?
I still think having one axis of an unstable wormhole is the best way to commit ornithological genocide with an individual stone.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: The imbalance caused the wormhole. I just watched the SE of TMP!! GREAT STUFF!
Yeah well....Scotty could be wrong, he might not know of the presence of the wormhole and merely assumed it was caused by the warp inbalance.
Which begs the question, just how can a warp inbalance crate a wormhole from scratch in the first place?
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Of course, the wormhole could have been created backward in time (for a good explanation, go ignore TNG "All Good Things..."), thereby leading to the incredible journey of Voyager VI, and thus to the V'Ger intrusion, which in turn triggers the Enterprise's interception mission, which creates the wormhole.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Huh! Timo, I posted a similar idea to another thread on this topic... Except the wormhole was a by-product of Janeway's wreckless manipulation with the timeline and space-expansive technology.
Andrew
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Timo: Of course, the wormhole could have been created backward in time (for a good explanation, go ignore TNG "All Good Things..."), thereby leading to the incredible journey of Voyager VI, and thus to the V'Ger intrusion, which in turn triggers the Enterprise's interception mission, which creates the wormhole.
Timo Saloniemi
Oh I love a good paradox.
Did you hear the one about Chronowerx putting up the capital to fund UESPA which adapted the company logo for it's own, which would eventually become starfleet's own insignia that survives into the 29th century..? Nope? That's coz I just made it up.
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