I made an Pre TOS Ship, thats based on the Daedalus class starship. The ship can detach the spherical section from the engineering section in an case of emergency.
[ January 25, 2003, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: Lobo ]
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
It doesn't look much like a Daedalus, but that's not a bad thing.
I wonder about the decks. Are they horizontal? On the side view the panel lines and windows are like the seams on a football (American football). The lines would suggest that decks all slant towards the longitudinal axis of the ship.
Other than that, it looks good.
Posted by Middy Seafort (Member # 951) on :
Nice job.
I really like the design lines. I especially dig the seperation of the habitat module with the engineering hull.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
An interesting design with some very nice detailing, well done! Two niggles though, as Masao pointed out the window allignments are a little funky and you only need ONE scale bar, not four. Posted by Sarvek (Member # 910) on :
Cool looking design. I really like the originality to it all on a basic design format. Would a pre-TOS ship have a NCC registry or would it be a NX, NW, NQ, NY, and etc?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
You are confusing Pre-TOS with Pre-Federation.
Very nice btw, Lobo. The nacelles are reminiscent of the Baton Rouge are they not?
And the 'sphercer' is reminiscent of both sphere and saucer.
What program do you use?
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
One little thing...
I don't see any impulse engines.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
Much better. There are however a few things I forgot to mention earlier regarding the markings; for one the registry on the nacelles is a bit too big, I'd consider reducing it by about 50% and if you want this to look contemporary with the Daedalus then you might want to have "United Federation" under the reg in a much smaller type. See here for examples Also the ships seams to be missing it's name, which should at least be visible on the primary hull if nowhere else.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I really love the design, Lobo, but I think that you need to change the scale a bit. After crunching the numbers, I got a figure of 320 meters long... that seems pretty big for a pre-TOS ship IMO, not to mention that that's not supported by the relatively small number of decks indicated by the windows. (Even if you assume that it's every other deck or something.)
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
When I said Baton Rouge I meant Bonaventure.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
I noticed something else funny. The intersection of the secondary hull to the grey end cap is strange. From both the top and side views the intersection should be a straight vertical line. The concave line you have is the appearance of a cross section.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
Its funny, I was just looking at the update - mainly the second of the four pictures. Its a wonder that in the earlier ships (Enterprise doesn't allow for this) the decks weren't perpendicular with the nacelles. That is - like a rocket... Astronaughts sit atop the rocket - I wonder if you could have a starship where the decks are arranged so that the bridge would be say - as in Lobo's pic where the deflector is - and each deck down closer to the Engine at the 'bottom'.
I guess with the Space shuttle and onwards we've just sat like we would in a plane, not like a rocket.
It could have made an interesting design for pre-gravity-plate ships - but it seems we developed them relatively quickly after (if not before First Contact).
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Uh...no craft launched by rocket has been oriented in the way you describe.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
My Wasp class ship has its deck stacked along the longitudinal axis (ie, perpendicular to the nacelles). Such an arrangement allows full-circular decks in the middle of the sphere while putting all the engineering stuff in the back of the sphere.
quote:Originally posted by Masao: My Wasp class ship has its deck stacked along the longitudinal axis (ie, perpendicular to the nacelles). Such an arrangement allows full-circular decks in the middle of the sphere while putting all the engineering stuff in the back of the sphere.
That sounds like a very intelligent idea into the design and it makes sense. There is your artificial gravity caused by the force of the nacelles and the impulse thrusters. Mr. Brown's ship is also well designed and I am glad that he changed the pennants to reflect the time frame.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
man... how is it that i'm just now seeing this thread? the ship rocks. we loves it.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: man... how is it that i'm just now seeing this thread? the ship rocks. we loves it.
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Great job Lobo.