The Star Trek Concordium fanfic series (to date purely offline, but maybe someday it will be on the net) features 62 ship classes, but the appearance/design of only 40 has been defined till now. So its up to you to give Starfleet of 2380 a new face.
Design something new or just pull out your hundred year old designs, I am interested in your suggestions.
-------------------------------------------------- Class 1: S.S. Pyramid FAB-49124 Construction Vessel 7 built Commissioned: 2345 Propulsion: 4 x Shuvinaaljis G360 units (aka nacelles); 1 x Westinghouse A650 reactor Cruise Warp 5, Max Cruise Warp 8, Max Rated Warp 8.4 These massive vessels are the only construction ships operated by Starfleets Construction Command. While they can build the whole range of facilities from defense platforms to Spacedock-sized stations, they are mostly used for construction of arrays like Midas or Argus and for construction of Copernicus Type stations. --------------------------------------------------
So you got any ideas how such a thing could look like?
"All I ask is a tall ship and someone to create it for me." Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Like a big BLOCK! With doors, and windows, and big bays, and warp engines. Oh, and shuttles that can mount on the exterior for fast loading are an ABSOLUTE MUST! And it should be painted neon green trim to make it look fast even thought its only a big block and should be PRECISELY 56.754% the size of a Borg cube, and should have big lettering on it which reads "Federation Block Ship, Not Borg Ship, Do Not Fire Please, Shields Not Installed Until Tuesday."
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
they could look like Goa'uld Hatak Class ships...
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
It would be helpful to know what ships classes are already taken Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
Alright I just threw this together after a little sketching...
Paladin, I like it...but now asa Federation ship.
Posted by CaptainMaxwell (Member # 932) on :
I'm a little handicapped when it comes to designing a construction ship. Every time the model used in Activisions Armada series comes to my mind.
Snay is not so wrong. At least this is what I always thought, a LSD (a large slow duck, to say it with the Navy's words). A sleek design is not exactly what I expect for a AXB (construction vessel).
But this reminds me a little of my design for the Concordium's Enterprise class Freighter. Replacing the three sections with a cut half torus there would be enough space between the ends of the arch and the nacelles to be used as a small dock for construction of larger components
-------------------------------------------------- What neon green would that be? You have a RAL code avaible?
Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
O.k. here is a second design that should be more Federation...
After my first post got eaten up by my mouse (a long story) I'll make this shorter...
I like three but please do: Connect the nacelles at the neck of the saucer Move them closer to the hull to reduce beam The nacelles should be smaller The secondary hull (w/ deflector) should be not so high but broader (like a bathtub) The secondary hull (w/ dock) can be flattened nearly to zero On part of the cage should be connected to the hull, the other to the upper pair of nacelles with no struts between them (but still retractable)
Posted by CaptainMaxwell (Member # 932) on :
After having posted the important:
To honour your (Paladin181) efforts so far, the next time we meet the U.S.S. Paladin NCC-79417 , a Olympus Class Heavy Explorer/Battleship, it will be commanded by you, at least if you send me your name.
(Concerning your location, you could have easily been a friend to our bold captain since he was born in Olympia)
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
I don't know how anyone could read my post and think I was being "not so wrong." Allow me to point you in the direction of "harsh satire" ...
Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
Suggestions in hand here is the Class 1, variant BB...
The cage/drydock can expand farther aft as well to faciliate larger construction projects.
Posted by CaptainMaxwell (Member # 932) on :
Hopefully this post will be longer and more detailed...
Since the Pyramid is a design of the early 40's Sovereign style nacelles are to modern. Possibilities are Ambassador-like, Akira or Sabre The lower hull is a little bit to fat, it should be 120 - 150 percent as wide as the saucer. I liked the X form of the nacelle pylons of the earlier variant better. The upper part of the cage should be directly attached (nailed, welded, bonded or maybe glued)to the upper pair of nacelles The secondary hull (w/ cage) could be reduced to a large block garage for cargo, engineering and shuttle bays The folding mechanism for the upper nacelles should be stricken; moving more than one million metric tons mechanically would be overly complicated (this is not Janeways can).
The Pyramids have been constructed in the longest docks in the 40's, now designated Type IV, which would make their maximum lenght appx. 550 metres.
And to Snay, I understood your post quite well. The Problem is that 'Federation Block Ship, Not Borg Ship, Do Not Fire Please, Shield Not Installed Until Tuesday' written in Starfleet Standard font would be to long even for a Borg Cube so we have to change the name to something shorter. But it would make a cool bumper sticker (someone could do that?).
Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
Class 1, Design Variant CC, new fancy "Curling Rock" styled nacelles, thinner lower hull, shorter spinal hull, cage/drydock moved further aft, nacelles in new "shafted x" pattern stemming from spinal hull for increased integrity, and folding mechanism stricken (albeit enjoyed by the designer). I'm not sure I want to connect the nacelles to the cage or exactly how to do it and still keep symmetry and ship integrity. And also if the cage expands like it does it would be too difficult to run the neccesary conduits to the nacelles.
**Now Showing Class 1, Design Variant CC 1.5**
Posted by CaptainMaxwell (Member # 932) on :
In case you have misunderstood me: The cage would only be expendable in width not in height...
After having reviewed the actual version, I think it would be good to give the ship a tail like the Excelsior (the auxiliary shuttle bay aft) and probably some additional nacelle pylons connecting the upper nacelle pair with the tail and maybe even a horizontal strut between the nacelles...
I do not know if this would look good, it was just an idea. I suggested connecting the upper part of the cage to the nacelles; this would put an enormous stress on the two single pylons consuming a large amount of energy for the SIF. So far Starfleet has always built very efficient designs...
The deflector should probably be a little bit larger.
I like the flattened nacelles but they still don't suit, but I have no clue how the nacelles should actually look... (maybe the marker kind of Cheyenne/Springfield?) But they ain't that important.
Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
Class 1 Design Variant CC, now with tail, I still think that the pylons can handle the stress.
Posted by CaptainMaxwell (Member # 932) on :
Ahhhh... should have sent a pic. The tail was supposed to be on the lower hull, under the cage.
Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
Dare to be different my friend...
Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
I've updated it, now with two large shuttlebays aft.
O.k., the revisions have been made, I've really bulked it up quite a bit.
Posted by CaptainMaxwell (Member # 932) on :
As long as you are not one of the 3DS guys there's nothing more to do with 2D art. I think we can approve it for construction.
Just one thing: How about a top view?
A few specs:
Length: 532 m Beam: 290 m w/o nacelles, 435 m full, 750 m expanded Height: 290 m Mass: 4.550.000 metric tons empty, appx. 1.200.000 metric tons cargo capacity, can hold parts with up to 6.000.000 metric tons in dock Armament: None Unit Run Pyramid 49124 Phidias 49125 Halicarnassos 49126 Pharos 49127 Ephesos 49128 Colossus 49129 Semiramis 49130 (the 'FAB' means 'Federation, Auxiliary, Construction')
-------------------------------------------------- And if I haven't already driven you mad you are cordially invited for 'Your Part II of Starfleet'
Posted by Paladin181 (Member # 833) on :
I have tried to post this already yesterday but ... aargh I hate Windows.
I thought the Olympic's deflector is in the secondary hull. Must have overseen it.
I think that the yellow arrow is only worn by Starfleet ships (though I may be wrong). The Pyramid's are operated by Starfleets Construction Command but they are registrated under the flag of the Department of Traffic (therefore the FAB- instead of the usual NCC-). So they better should carry the logos of the Federation and the DOT instead of Starfleets signs.
I'm not sure about the shuttlebay in the saucer. The saucer was supposed to be the living area for the (large) crew, without any not-crew installations. The secondary hulls are used for shuttlebays and cargo/fuel/shuttle/bee storage and of course for engineering.
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, a Olympus Class Heavy Explorer/Battleship, it will be commanded by you, at least if you send me your name.