Turn on A&E -- Biography is running a bit on JK Rowlings. It's really fascinating -- this woman keeps COPIOUS notes. She has the names of every student of Hogwarts, for one thing. She also has self-done pictures (very good ones, too!) of various events of the books -- Hagrid on the Gringott's cart, the bricks opening to Diagon Alley, the assorted characters ...
Also, Entertainment Weekly did a cover story on "Chamber of Secrets." Comes out Nov. 15th, with "Prisoner of Azkhaban" beginning production in early '03 for a Thanksgiving '03 release. Sadly, Chris Columbus is NOT directing (his choice), but he will be producing. It's kind of funky to think that by the time we all see Star Wars Episode III, "Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire" will be in post-production and "Harry Potter & Whatever-The-Title-Is" will be in pre-production ... (at this rate, anyway).
Speaking of which, anyone know when book five comes out?
[ May 31, 2002, 19:10: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Harry who? Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Dude, are you serious? Do you live in a hole or something?
Also, I can't think of his name, but the Colonel from "BlackHawk Down" and the British cavalry officer from "The Patriot" will portray Lucius Malfoy.
[ May 31, 2002, 19:25: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Black Hawk Down. Two words, despite the helicopter.
Haha! The359 is SOO out of the loop! He probably doesn't even know what MTV is! Ha! These kids today, not knowing pop culture! Or knowing, but making a funny joke on our overexposure of such culture! HAHA! Lamer.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Yes, you're right ... Black Hawk Down. I'm wrong. The357 either lives in a concrete hill or is a lamer. But not as much as Defiant, who I strongly suspect is Still Bannified.
Can we please talk about Harry Potter now?
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
I was joking, sheesh. It was meant to imply "who cares about Harry Potter anymore?"
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
The precocious brat. ;-)
Someone mind telling me why this isn't in "General Sci-fi"? Gs/f deals with fantasy as well, as "Lord of The Rings" resides there. It should be renamed with the "fantasy"-bit added.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Apparently she's having trouble writing the fifth book. I think I heard it'll be out early next year.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Um, actually, Snay, the movie "Prisoner of Azkaban" won't be released until 2004.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
It's going to take two years to do? Why? It starts filming winter of '03. That's the same time-frame they had with "Stone" and "Chamber", and they both came out that same year November.
Wraith, not only is book five finished, but book seven is finished. According to JK Rowlings on Biography last night, anyway.
Why ISN'T this in gen sci-fi? SIIIIIIMON ... !
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
IMDb and Coming Attractions both say the Prisoner of Azkaban will come out in 2004. I guess they're taking a year off.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I wouldn't place a lot of stock in either of those fine movie news institutions.
"Prisoner of Azkaban" begins filming in January '03, which means it'll be done by the summer and out of post-production in time for Thanksgiving '03 ... I don't see why they'd hold it for a year.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote: Wraith, not only is book five finished, but book seven is finished. According to JK Rowlings on Biography last night, anyway.
There's a difference between "has rough notes on", and "has a completed manuscript". She has been having trouble with book 5, which is why it keeps getting pushed further and further back.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
quote: Why ISN'T this in gen sci-fi? SIIIIIIMON ... !
Don't ask me, I didn't start it. I'm not at all certain it needs to be there. But whatever you say.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Liam,
She's got more then "rough notes" ... or maybe she's skipping around the books, but she showed the completed epilogue of Book Seven on the program. Of course, it was bound in a notebook, but she very clearly made the point that it was being submitted to the publisher. Now, if she's got the end of Book Seven finished, it's a good bet Book Five is written as well.
I'm not sure it needs to be in Gen Sci-Fi either, Simon, but Nimmy seems to think so, so what can I say about it?
BTW: Defiant = MIB.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
*sigh* Snay, I'll place my stock wherever I want. Those two sites are the most reliable on the Internet. If you want some information about the release, here's the report from Coming Attractions:
"Because of Warner Bros. buying the rights to distribute Terminator 3 and release it domestically in the summer of 2003, and the release of the two Matrix sequels already planned for the early summer/holiday season of the same year, the earliest Harry Potter 3 would be in theaters will be sometime in 2004. [Based on information that originally appeared in Variety.]"
Plus, Harry Potter would once again have to compete with the Lord of the Rings trilogy (as it will this year) if it was released in 2003, so I think the producers are right to hold it back a year or so.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
quote:*sigh*
Oh, darn, I offended Veers. I'll go cry now.
Whatever, Veers. I don't know why they'd hold it back a year, and IMDB is not the most reliable -- they list information based on e-mail submissions. I don't know about Current Attractions, but it sounds like they're gathering pieces of information from various sources and drawing conclusions.
Harry Potter has gone up against Lord of the Rings once already. It'll go up against it again this November, along with the next Star Trek film. Why it WOULDN'T go up LoTR for a THIRD time in Nov '03, I can't imagine. I also don't see how big SUMMER movies would affect a late fall/early winter movie.
If they're going to delay it, it WON'T be because of Terminator, Matrix II and III (summer, all), and CERTAINLY not by the last LoTR movie. If I was to make a guess, I'd say that the script is so long (as anyone familiar with the series knows, each book is progressively longer) that shooting is scheduled to run to a point where meeting a fall '03 release date would be impossible. I tend to doubt that. Until I hear something *reliable* from Warner Bros. or the production company, I'll assume HP&TPoA will be released in the fall '03.
Don't take this personally, Veers. But the whole "Harry Potter can't compete against LoTR" arguement is crap.
BTW: finding the cut scenes on the DVD was a pain in the ass. But they were worth it. Go to "classrooms" on the 2nd disc, and click on the Hogwarts emblem in the middle (you probably have to visit each "class" before it'll let you do that). Select the flute to get past Fluffy, then find the broken-wing key, then the round potion bottle. Click on the stone, and you're in the deleted scenes.
Easy. As. Pie.
[ June 01, 2002, 19:42: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
This whole thread would be interesting. If I was eight.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
You mean you're not? You certainly act like you are quite often. Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
I heard a story about a kettle and a pot and maybe some other kitchen appliances once, but I'm remiss as to how it goes.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Rebuffed by UM. How humiliating.
Then again, at least my twin brother doesn't look like ...
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
*sprinkles growth hormone around liberally*
Rowling wrote the epilogue for book seven some time ago... a year or more, IIRC. But everything between there heading back to somewhere in the middle of book five has yet to be done.
That = TEH TRUTH!
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
I wasn't offended. Just frustrated.
$poilers below if you don't want to know something about the last book. $ $ $ $ $ I remember J.K. Rowling saying the last word of the last book (7) will be "scar." Now, one must wonder why this is the last word. Probably he touches it or something.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Yeah, there was a documentary on over here a few months back and she said she'd written the last chapter of book 7 and had rough notes on all the others.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
My understanding is that book five is finished, but she keeps rewriting parts of it, so the publishers haven't gotten it yet.
And aren't those kids going to be in their early twenties by the time they make the last movie?
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Yes. But age isn't that big a deal between late teens, and early twenties ... heck, Natalie Portman was eighteen or nineteen when playing a much older Senator Amidala!
And of course, so far at the rate they're filming, they're staying on track ... LOL. Ratcliffe is going to be 13 while "Prisoner of Azkhaban" is filming, so he could conceivably BE 17 when book seven is filmed ... LOL.
Veers -- what I've heard is Warner Brothers is considering postponing "Prisoner...". They might well release "Prisoner" and "Goblet of Fire" both in '04 ... personally, I like a new HP movie every year ...
[ June 02, 2002, 18:38: Message edited by: Snay ]
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
I saw the movie this weekend. I had never read any of the books, or seen the movie, but enough adults had told me how good it was that I wasn't concerned about ordering the DVD without seeing it first.
I now wish I had seen it before buying. I would have skipped it. Not a bad movie, but I don't see much there for adults. It is not comparable to "Lord Of The Rings" simply because "Rings", well, runs rings around "Potter".
I was told that the books were much better, as most books are when compared to movies, but is Harry Potter that much better in book form, or are the books on the same level as the movie? Please let me know what you all think, cause I need to decide about buying the book.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
The books are fantastic.
Of course, I don't tend to compare two different things set in roughly the same genre. If I went to see any Star Trek movie with the intent of judging it against "Star Wars", I'd never - ever - watch anything relating to Trek again.
Don't compare LoTR and Harry Potter. They may both be "fantasy", but they're hardly the same thing, and judging one on the merits of the other is (IMHO) rather foolish.
Why so many people intend on doing it is beyond me.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The books are better than the movie. But I've never seen an instance of that being untrue, so I'm not surprised. However, if your problem w/ the movie is that it's for kids, then I don't think you'll like the books, either. They're good books, but they're still written for kids (or "young adults", as the classification goes). If you don't like stuff written for a younger audience, then you're not going to like it, no matter how well-written a kids' book it may be.
Posted by thoughtychops (Member # 480) on :
besides all of that, you can download the books off of certain file sharing progs. That's where I got my copy.
I probably downloaded it off of Morpheus...before it started sucking eggs after the "major hacker attack" they suffered.
"Major Hacker Attack" will be the name of a shitty band one day.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Back in the 20th century there was an institution known as the "library." I believe you could somehow barter with the feudal rulers of these domains in order to take home, for a time, one or more of the tomes within.
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Even if thou had a lack of the coinage! It was simpler then.
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
I will not read books off of the computer screen. Firstly, I get a bit worn if sitting for more than ten hours straight in front of the can, and also I'm immobilized. My book can accompany me out to the house in the country, or under the aardvalk, down by the sea.
Thoidly, the font and appearance are mostly ugly compared to a nice book (LOTR Illustrated, mmm).
Posted by thoughtychops (Member # 480) on :
What's a library?
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
I think you mean libary. Ask your libarian.
Posted by The Defiant (Member # 818) on :
LoTR is a lot better than Harry.
Who cares about him anymore? When I was 29, it was popular, and I am now 31.
So 359 said it best: Harry Who?
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
"Who cares about him anymore? When I was 29, it was popular, and I am now 31."
It needs to be repeated.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Oy. It's really hard to not mention you-know-what when you-know-who keeps being obvious about this stuff. Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
this is fun
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
even when Harry Potter was at the height of his popularity, i kept getting him confused with Colonel Sherman Potter on M*A*S*H.. cuz he was played by Harry Morgan, so whenever i hear 'Harry' and 'Potter' together, i always just say 'horse hockey!' and walk away. My friend Jen said that if she met Harry Potter and he was real she would molest him. I can't stand him myself, we don't talk much about it anymore, for obvious reasons, and I was never interested in the books. One time when I had my own apartment, i put the monitor sideways on the bed and downloaded eBooks of 'Federation' and 'Final Frontier'.. it was satisfying.
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Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Around the time when the movie came out, I went to the Chapter's book store, and placed an order for Rememberance Day by Henry Porter. First, I asked if they had any Henry Porter books in stock, and the young fancy lad with blonde a tipped hair head like all the punks today who think they're all cool and shit pointed to like The Prisoner of Azkobob or whatever the hell that book's called, so I threw him in a dumpster behind the store, but not before I spilled hot Starbucks yuppie juice on his pasty ass forehead, and slammed the door on his face.
Harry Potter sucks. And if I ever see some little nerd ass kid shit stain dressed up like that little homo again, I'm going stick that broom up his ass and give him a scar on the inside of his damn forehead.
Uh?
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
Magnoose: "so I threw him in a dumpster behind the store, but not before I spilled hot Starbucks yuppie juice on his pasty ass forehead"
You read books? So you didn't perhaps take the wallet from his limp body, buy a bottle of peppermint schnapps for the doe, get shitfaced on the sidewalk outside his store and piss on it? And when you woke up, someone had stolen your pair of 1957 "stars'n'stripes" C.E. suspenders?
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Wow, it's like you were actually there.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I can't believe I didn't make the Cliff Yablonski connection there until Nim's comment...
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I have no idea what ya'll are talking about now, but please carry on. It amuses me. Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Thoisday?
Posted by thoughtychops (Member # 480) on :
comes after Weddingsday.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Isn't that the day that TLC airs a marathan of A Wedding Story episodes capping off with the series crossover episode of Paige Davis' wedding?
I hate those days.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
quote: If you don't like stuff written for a younger audience, then you're not going to like it, no matter how well-written a kids' book it may be.
I've read some Star Wars books written for the younger crowd, and liked them, so I'll probably give the first Harry Potter book a try, but I'll try to get a copy from England or Canada, so nothing has been changed.
Compareing LotR's to Harry Potter is Apples and Oranges.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Kosh, the only thing changed (as far as I know) is that "philosopher's" has been changed to "sorcerer's."
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
So Plato was an early wiccan, then? :.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
the word 'Philosopher' was deemed too offensive for the general public to consume. Their minds might well recoil at the thought that there are in fact, people who think thoughts on a more than regular basis. Then they'd forget.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
I understand that all the slang was changed as well.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I'm not sure "offended" is the right term.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
My next Lego project is Hogwarts Castle. I bought three castle sets off eBay for $50 a pop. That should at least allow me to make a decent Great Hall.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Most colloquisms were changed, lest some poor American kid read the word "fortnight" and die screaming in flames.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
I couldn't understand most books and writing anyway. Including here.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Pushing aside the incredible urge to make a funny, I shall focus on something else. Namely, why you have a link to Wil Wheaton's website in your signature. I am... concerned.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
He's Being Wil's Crush, isn't it obvious? Posted by thoughtychops (Member # 480) on :
So...I watched the Harry Potter DVD last night.
It was good fun. I was suprised that it had Trent Reznor in it, as one of the professors.
What? Alan Rickman? Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
I won't comment on the quality of Harry Potter - be it film or book. I rather enjoy reading all your funny posts.
But I honestly hope the comments about the spelling of the word "library" earlier on were meant to be jokes as well.
Or was my English teacher right in saying that American kids are too stupid to write their own language correctly??? Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
Becuase it was either that or the Government of British Columbia. The bottom one is my own sucky website, 4 years in the making, and I havent even got one thing done. Besides, of of the stuff Wil posts is funny. (Am I the only person who likes Wil Wheaton ?)
[ June 08, 2002, 07:51: Message edited by: The BWC ]
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
... I thought you just bought your computer after saving 20-some odd years for it?
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
That doesn't count thinking about doing it when I got the computer and thinking about doing it when I had my computer anyway. That was about 3 years 11 months.
Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
"I was suprised that it had Trent Reznor in it, as one of the professors"
You are a saucy, saucy naughty lad with too much sass and knowledge for your own good. Sassy indeed.
Posted by thoughtychops (Member # 480) on :
Liked that, did you? I went to a liberry to get the gnawledge on that.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I'm sure the "libary" joke was intentional. But, yes, most American kids are too dumb to write/speak properly, anyway. Same goes for the adults.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
You know, I think I'm the only person who's ever linked to the Government of British Columbia website in my .sig. So, while I won't rule out coincidence, it does beg a truly terrifying question: "Does BWC have powers of perception?"
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I think there's a far, far simpler explanation.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
BWC is Celine Dion!
No, wait...
Yes, Wil Wheaton's web-site isn't that bad. Hating Wesley doesn't mean you have to hate him. He seems like an okay sort of fellow.
"Or was my English teacher right in saying that American kids are too stupid to write their own language correctly???"
Their language?
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Americlish.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Ok, with "their" language I should have referred to the English-speaking part of the American population. (are there any left by now?) Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Oh, Judas Priest, not another of those "oh my god we need to close our borders to anyone who doesn't speak english because we're for english speakers only no matter what the damn French statue in Socialist York says!"
Back on topic. Harry Potter. Boy with lightning-shaped scar. Sidekicks: Ron Weasely of the red hair and numerous sibling fame (one sister, five brothers); Hermoine Granger of the unpronouncable name and studious nature fame.
Posted by thoughtychops (Member # 480) on :
Harry Potter is cool in Spanish.
"Donde este el philosopher's stone?"
Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :
No Longer Malnurtured:
Thanks for the tip on finding the chopped scenes. I would've never had the patience to figure that out on my own. Hell, I barely had the patience to get through it even once I knew how.
To top it off, the scenes weren't even that good! Given the hoops one has to jump through, they should have another whole movie hidden there.
To those considering reading the books: I suggest skipping to Prisoner of Azkaban. It's darker and more sophisticated than the earlier books. Plus Rowling finally figures out how to write a decent ending.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I liked the scene where Aunt Petunia is cracking open the eggs, and the Hogwarts letters keep falling out ... Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
I liked it when one of them kids got hit in the head by a blunt object. *bonk* "Aeuuh, balderdash!"
My brain would melt if I ever were to be shown the full size of the bluescreen-tapestry needed for that broomstick croquetball tournament, it would be like when Astronaut Dave touched the Monolith, coupled with when Paul Atreides put his hand in that Bene Gesserit firebox. Mmmm...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Or Zaphod Beeblebrox in the Total Perspective Vortex...
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