This came out last week and it's about time. No pun intended. The BTTF series have been my favorite movies for as long as I can remember. I've been obsessed with owning a DeLorean since forever as well just because of those movies. So I definately had to get the 3 DVD box set the day it came out.
It's an awesome set too, each DVD has extras relating to that particular movie. Each movie has deleted scenes, outtakes, commentaries and documentaries and other interesting making-of type stuff.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Does the extras include any Eric Stolz footage? I've seen stills, which suggest that shot quite a few scenes before he got the axe.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Masao: Does the extras include any Eric Stolz footage? I've seen stills, which suggest that shot quite a few scenes before he got the axe.
No, just some stills but the whole situation and reason for the axe is discussed on one of the documentries. There might be some legal reason why the footage is never shown, like when an agent blocks an actor's bloopers from being shown.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
They talk about Stoltz quite a bit. I hadn't realized just how much of the film had actually BEEN filmed when they re-cast Fox (which in turn, forced them to re-cast a new, shorter, actress to play Jenifer). I don't think they say for certain, but to me it sounded like they'd filmed a good 1/3rd of the film with Stoltz ... and wound up firing him while shooting the parking lot scene in the beginning of the film.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Yes, aren't we all special ...
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Sorry for the double topic post.
I watched BTTF 2&3 and didn't really notice the problem, so it wasn't too bad. I guess if I watched them again knowing that, I might notice it.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:This came out last week and it's about time.
What are you talking about? I have it in my shelf since September. Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
I was sad to hear they royally fucked up the framing in Parts 2 and 3. In Febuary they are re-calling parts 2 and 3 for new ones, properly framed. They explain it here:
Im very sad about this, but I will be getting the discs soon (BTTF-sized present under the tree) and WILL exchange them for the non-fubar ones in Feb 2003.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Can someone explain this Stoltz thing? It's the first I've heard of it.
Mark
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Now when they say they screwed up on the anamorphic widescreen transfer, does that mean that ONLY the widescreen version is messed up? Or the fullscreen version, too?
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:Eric Stoltz was originally cast as Marty McFly in Back to the Future (1985). After filming about 1/3 of the movie, they fired him and hired Michael J. Fox. They said that Stoltz didn't act enough like a teenager.
IMDB.com
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: Now when they say they screwed up on the anamorphic widescreen transfer, does that mean that ONLY the widescreen version is messed up? Or the fullscreen version, too?
Only the true movie (aka Widescreen) i honestly dont know why the hell anyone would buy the fullscreen versions, they are worse then improperly framed widescreen versions.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
People with bad eyesight and no DVD zoom option Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
I only really like widescreen when it's in a ratio like Enterprise... Watching movies with two thick black bars on the screen doesn't appeal to me...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Well, if your country got off it's arse and started making widescreen TVs more common...
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I think I'm going to watch the trilogy again this week ...
Posted by Middy Seafort (Member # 951) on :
Snay,
"Great Scott! It's a Lego Delorian."
"Boy, Doc, that's heavy."
"Is there something wrong with gravity in the future, Marty?"
Middy Seafort
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
**LOL**
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
Oh my! It looks like it even has winged doors...that work!
Posted by buffyslilhelper (Member # 956) on :
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[ January 06, 2003, 10:38: Message edited by: Charles Capps ]
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Ace,
The pic is a link. Click it, and you'll see about two dozen more images of it ... including with the doors open Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Proteus... The fullscreen version actually shows more of the image than the widescreen version. The 4:3 aspect ratio was the original motion picture film ratio, and indeed, movie screens pretty much dictated the ratio of the first television screens, which we still use today.
In an attempt to snag viewers back from TV, the biggest movie studios started coming up with wider images to give a more engrossing movie-viewing experience, such as Cinemascope, Panavision, and so on.
BTTF was filmed in 4:3, and then cropped top and bottom to fit anamorphic movie screens. When you watch the fullscreen version, they just use the uncropped version. The so-called "widescreen" versions of BTTF add nothing to the sides, and just crop the top and bottom as with the theatrical film release.
--Jonah
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
The worst thing is that I'm going to have to pay about $6 extra to get the fullscreen version... Posted by Commander Dan (Member # 558) on :
quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: Proteus... The fullscreen version actually shows more of the image than the widescreen version. The 4:3 aspect ratio was the original motion picture film ratio, and indeed, movie screens pretty much dictated the ratio of the first television screens, which we still use today.
In an attempt to snag viewers back from TV, the biggest movie studios started coming up with wider images to give a more engrossing movie-viewing experience, such as Cinemascope, Panavision, and so on.
BTTF was filmed in 4:3, and then cropped top and bottom to fit anamorphic movie screens. When you watch the fullscreen version, they just use the uncropped version. The so-called "widescreen" versions of BTTF add nothing to the sides, and just crop the top and bottom as with the theatrical film release.
--Jonah
Not exactly. The first BTTF was indeed shot in anamorphic widescreen, so the “fullscreen version” is pan and scan and is cropped on the sides in its entirety.
BTTF II and III, however, were shot in “open matte” and there is more picture (in principal photography shots) seen at the top and bottom of the fullscreen version, since it is not matted. However, special effects shots were not filmed in open matte, and were produced only in the 1.85:1 aspect ratio. As I understand it, it is generally considered cost prohibitive to produce effects shots in 4:3, only to crop-off or matte part of the image later. (Although interestingly, it was done for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone.)
So, all scenes involving special effects shots in BTTF II and III are still pan and scanned.
The “open matte” is, in point of fact, the reason that there are framing issues on Parts II and III. Since Part I was shot in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen, there was basically no opportunity for Universal to screw it up.
In the case of Parts II and III however, Universal went back to the original open matte images for the DVD transfer, and apparently, some technician “feel asleep at the wheel,” so principal photography shots in the movie are misframed.
Keep in mind, however, that scenes with special effects shots in BTTF II and III are framed correctly; for the same reason that all of BTTF Part I is framed correctly: They were shot in 1.85:1 widescreen.
For more info on aspect ratios, open mattes, and widescreen in general, check out the Letterbox and Widescreen Advocacy Page at: http://www.widescreen.org/
[ January 09, 2003, 19:18: Message edited by: Commander Dan ]
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Commander Dan: Not exactly. The first BTTF was indeed shot in anamorphic widescreen, so the “fullscreen version” is pan and scan and is cropped on the sides in its entirety.
Hang on. I thought "anamorphic widescreen" was another name for "we shot it at 4:3 and matted the top and bottom for the cinema"?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
quote: But here's the cool thing about current DVD technology: by mastering widescreen movies on DVD using the format's anamorphic feature, content providers can ensure that today's DVDs will look great even on tomorrow's Digital TVs (which are starting to become available now).
Posted by Commander Dan (Member # 558) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Hang on. I thought "anamorphic widescreen" was another name for "we shot it at 4:3 and matted the top and bottom for the cinema"?
Uh…, no. The term that you are looking for is “open matte”
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
*reads the Anamorphic thing*
Hang on, the BBC have been doing TV shows like that for about 2 years now. Sort of. They do the B5 approach, of shooting in the middle and having the sides be "extra". Watch on a 4:3 TV, and you get a full screen image. Watch on a 16:9 TV (which a fair few people have), and you get a widescreen image. So that's actually different, and I don't know why I mentioned it.
Still annoyed that the PgP DVD wasn't widescreen. Grrr.
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