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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>darkwing_duck1</b> <br /><small>Member # 790</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,4,28,21,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 28, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:41 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <a href="http://pub61.ezboard.com/filanasmothershipfrm1.showMessage?topicID=80.topic" target="_blank">http://pub61.ezboard.com/filanasmothershipfrm1.showMessage?topicID=80.topic</a><br /><br />Apparently, Ken Johnson, the creator of V, has done a deal to get a "Next Generation"-type continuation of V into production. No real details yet, except that this would likely IGNORE the weekly series and follow from either the end of the first or second mini-serieses...<br /><br />Here's hoping! With all the feldgercarb floating about from the BSG "continuation vs reimagining" war, this is good news for fans of a classic show! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Red Admiral</b> <br /><small>Member # 602</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,4,17,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:44 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I've waited many years to see V return. I only hope they resume where the first feature length series (The Final Battle) left off. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,12,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> That's like saying you waited years for "Automan" to return. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Cartmaniac</b> <br /><small>Member # 256</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,12,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:16 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Erh, no.<br /><br /><b>V</b> was great. For its time. For pre-teenagers who thought weird-voiced, mouse-eating, resource-draining lizards-in-disguise led by admiral Paris were kickass aliens. For critics who didn't care about its low budget and sloppy acting. And even for sci-fi freaks. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,12,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:37 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Cartmaniac:<br /><strong> Erh, no.<br /><br /><b>V</b> was great. For its time. For pre-teenagers who thought weird-voiced, mouse-eating, resource-draining lizards-in-disguise led by admiral Paris were kickass aliens. For critics who didn't care about its low budget and sloppy acting. And even for sci-fi freaks. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, as long as you ignore low budget and sloppy acting....and overall shakey plot, then yes, I guess it was "great". I reacll some kind of quasi-religous messaiah plotline involving a hybrid girl with magical powers at the end. ({shudder))<br />I liked it as a child...but I also loved Starblazers and Land of the Lost waaaay back then too: now go back and re-watch those episodes and you'll see how terrible many of them truly were.<br />It's easy to remember those childhood shoes with rose-colored glasses untill you wtch them now and cringe at their low quality.<br />Whae Mark Singer and the guy that plays Freddie are the best actors in a TV show, you're in for one craptacular performance.<br /><br />THey could, I suppose, re-make it from the begining, but why bother: Independence Day part 2 has already been greenlighted for some time now. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Malnurtured Snay</b> <br /><small>Member # 411</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,12,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:43 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> So, Jason, you're not a big fan of TOS either, huh? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,13,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:19 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Not as a series as a whole, no.<br />TOS did, however have some innovative stories that have stood the test of time while "V" was a biiig analgy for Paris in WWII.<br />V was nothing we had not seen before in war movies. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Cartmaniac</b> <br /><small>Member # 256</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,14,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:15 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> "It's easy to remember those childhood shoes with rose-colored glasses untill you wtch them now and cringe at their low quality."<br /><br />Yeah, I know. There was a time I dug the A-Team and, uh, the Transformers (back when it was still socially acceptable to watch cartoons), something I'm having a veeery hard time reconciling with my, uh, more attuned taste today, BUT <b>V</b> was special, dammit! Do not taint my fond memories of Collaborator Boy ending up on Diana's dining platter! Or of Soap Girl giving birth to a... what the hell was that, anyway? Freaked me out more than Alien did.<br /><br />Ah, nostalgia. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,14,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:47 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Two words: Battlestar Galactica.<br />Seemed so cool when I was six and sooooo lame now.<br /><br />V was the same way: a moment or two of satisfaction of watching a collaborator become dinner for every hundred of over-acted agnst and obvious betrayals that a blind man could see a mile away.<br />Aliens traveling bilions of miles to steal our water is a baad concept.<br />Admit it.<br />Bad.<br /><br />The hot lizard bitch with the open neckline was my pre-pubescent reason for watching V.<br />Back when my total concept of women's anatomical diffrences was "boobies". <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,14,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:51 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Surely we are living in the golden age of cartoons for adults, though?<br /><br />"What's that, pods? The Blob is very, very fat?" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,6,14,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:53 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Oh yeah. <br />Animated stuff has become golden while live action has almost stagnated. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Red Admiral</b> <br /><small>Member # 602</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,10,8,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 10, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:04 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Another story here:<br /><br /><a href="http://scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-06/09/14.00.tv" target="_blank">http://scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-06/09/14.00.tv</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,10,9,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 10, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:22 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Marc Singer, Jane Badler and Faye Grant will have jobs again!<br />Surely the moon will turn to blood and the seventh seal will be broken.... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>darkwing_duck1</b> <br /><small>Member # 790</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,10,9,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 10, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:43 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 1. Is there ANYTHING you DO like, Jason? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />2. Don't blame Ken Johnson for the "starchild" fiasco, that wasn't HIS idea. He dropped out EARLY in the planning stages for "Final Battle".<br /><br />V was one of NBCs highest ever rated mini-serieses. To be that, it had to have (and DID have) more to offer than "geek stuff".<br /><br />Maybe it offends the "artistic sensibilities" of some around here, but then again, Comic Book Guy has HIS supporters too...I've posted about this on several different sites, and the response has been 90-95% positive, which is as it SHOULD be for such a quality show. (Mind you, we're NOT talking about that sorry mess for a "series", but rather the minis, especially the first one.) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,11,23,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 11, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:09 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Weeeell....if you limit it to ONLY the initial mini-series, then yes.<br />I agree that "V" was very good for it's time and had untold potential.<br /><br />Too bad the series blew all that potential.<br /><br />It's really hard to accept a premise of "as long as you ignore 90% of the stuff after the pilot it was great" as a reason to revive something.<br /><br />Still, I'll probably watch it and hope for the best. They're at least continuing with original actors and aknowledging that time has past between series.<br />I much prefer this track of thinking over the "re-imagining" of Battlestar Galactica. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /><br />See? Positive feedback for you.<br />Just don't expect the same open mindedness from me when the rest of the 80's shows return like zombies.<br />I'll skip a new A-Team, Magnum PI, or anything with the word "bionic" in it. (shudder) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>darkwing_duck1</b> <br /><small>Member # 790</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,12,0,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 12, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:14 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:<br /><strong> Weeeell....if you limit it to ONLY the initial mini-series, then yes.<br />I agree that "V" was very good for it's time and had untold potential.<br /><br />Too bad the series blew all that potential.<br /><br />It's really hard to accept a premise of "as long as you ignore 90% of the stuff after the pilot it was great" as a reason to revive something.<br /><br />Still, I'll probably watch it and hope for the best. They're at least continuing with original actors and aknowledging that time has past between series.<br />I much prefer this track of thinking over the "re-imagining" of Battlestar Galactica. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /><br /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know what you mean..."V:The Series" was a horrid mess. NBC tried to do it on the cheap, and kept meddling with it. AFAIK, NO ONE who considers themselves a big V fan likes the series (as a whole, there WERE a couple of good eps). <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,12,0,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 12, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:52 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yeah, you now it was bad if it's not still in cable syndication.<br />Sci-Fi still shows sorry shows like "Kolcheck the Night Stalker" all the time but no one shows "V: The Series". <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Axeman 3D</b> <br /><small>Member # 1050</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,5,12,3,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 12, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:08 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Kolchak helped spawn stuff like 'The X-Files' and had some interesting writing, V the Series was a crummy cheap spin-off from a 'made for TV' movie, so no surprises that it bombed. V was basically retelling the Nazi occupation of Europe in a post Star Wars time, so you have to wonder what they were thinking with a mini-series. How did the guy pitch it to the execs, "it's 'Nazis 2; the series!" Or would it be more like "we payed for lots of effects shots and costumes, lets reuse them. Sci-fi fans are dolts, they watch anything with spaceships in it!" Sad thing is, they're partly right. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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