Okay, I've just finished watching season seven of "SG-1", and there's something I don't get. The Dr. Elizabeth Weir who was given command of the SGC is obviously supposed to be the same character as the Dr. Elizabeth Weir who's going to be in "Atlantis", yes? So, if they introduced her for the sole purpose of launching the spin-off, why did they have a different actress play her? I mean, isn't that kind of like if the Stargate movie had been made with the primary intention of introducing the show, but they'd still used Kurt Russell for it and Richard Dean Anderson for the series?
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Steen was cast in The Lost City with the understanding that the producers were planning to spin off her character into Atlantis, and she also had an extended contract up until a few weeks before Atlantis started filming so she wouldn't be scooped up by another job, but then TPTB decided to recast the role (for whatever reason), and her contract expired, so she was replaced with Higginson. Or something.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
So she goes from outranking General Hammond to being second in command of a single unit? I haven't seen the seaosn yet, so I'm definitely missing some details. Was she just given command for a single episode for some reason, or is Hammond permanently out of the picture?
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Well, Weir's a civilian, so she doesn't technically "outrank" anyone, but she only got the position because Hammond was reassigned due to political pressure and president Hayes (introduced in Inauguration) wanted a semi-independent figurehead in his place who wasn't in VP Kinsey's back pocket. She'll be reassigned herself, though, at the beginning of Atlantis, after which O'Neill will take over from her as commander of the SGC.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
So Hammond's off the series now?
Season 8, I'm guessing, will feature O'Niell as a General and head of the SGC. This jives with RDA's desire to spend more time with the fam. Filling Hammond's role will cut his camera time.
So who will head up SG-1, then? Last time O'Niel needed replacing, they wouldn't let Carter do it. And I can't see her as the head of the team anyway. Are they going to be bringing in a new unit honcho?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Early spoilers suggest that O'Neil is trying to keep SG-1 as a three-person unit with Carter in charge. That Pierre Bernard segment has Jack call "Colonel Carter", so I'm guessing he has his way.
However, personally I'd have liked to see another person on the unit to maintain the 4-person dynamic in the field. Jonas would have made a nice addition, and Colonel Dixon from last year's "Heroes" (played by "Firefly"'s Adam Baldwin) would have been great too. Then there's always Ferretti, wherever he is now. The actor is almost surely still available - it's not like "Andromeda" is keeping him busy...
Mark
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
And Hammond is indeed out, yes.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Hmmm... well, he's got good reasons... but still. Shoot.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Wow. First Teryl Rothery and now Don Davis. Plus Anderson's reduced role. If Michael Shanks hadn't come back, I'd say they were well on their way to losing everyone.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Teryl's gone too!? Crap! She's hot. Did they write her character out or did she just mysteriously stop showing up? I guess that means no more Cassandra either...
Her voice is perfect for the commercial she does for those sunglasses.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Frasier was killed off in the two-parter Heroes.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Damn.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"I guess that means no more Cassandra either..."
Well, considering that she's only been in... what, three episodes? Four, maybe?
They didn't specify what was going to happen to her. I suspect they'll probably eventually drop a hint to imply she's living with Carter.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I hope that's true. The only reason I mentioned it was because it's already been established (in "1969") that she apparently remains involved with the Stagate program to whatever extent well into old age. She also hinted that Carter would know her when others on the team might not... so hopefully they'll keep that connection there.
Dr. Frasier is married, right?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Divorced, as explained in "Hathor". As for Cassandra, she never WAS really involved with the SGC save for when she was in trouble. Assuming the 1969 connection can still happen, at some point 40-50 years in the future the SCG will be inactive, the gate otherwise abandoned, and if humans are travelling around the galaxy they're probably using some other way to do it (unless there's another gate active somewhere else on Earth).
OTOH, they *did* show that predestination was not the only paradox that worked in the SG-1 universe when it came to time travel ("2010" and "2001" showed that alternate timelines can exist in this universe), so the future from "1969" may or may not still happen in the principal timeline.
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Yah, by "involved" I just meant in touch with people who worked there enough to have access to the facility.
Now, it did appear that the the Gate was abandoned and mothballed in the future the team briefly visited in "1969", and as I recall, we don't even know if the Gate was still in the Cheyenne Mountain facility. Or did they show the ramp? But Cassie had a hand device that allowed her to operate the Gate sans dialing device, so *some* advances in Gate technology must continue sometime well into the future.
Unfortunately, we'll most likely never get to see what happens to the Gate program over the course of the next 20 - 30 years. SG-1 will end after next season, and the focus will shift to what's going on in the Andromeda Galaxy. So unless everything with the Goa'uld wraps up by the end of the eigth season, we may never know how things go. I'm hoping they don't wrap it up, because, presumably, part of the reason they go to Andromeda is to find tech to help the effort back in our neck of the woods.
However... if the Goa'uld are eventually defeated, and humans can freely travel the galaxy, the need for the Gate may go away after 30 or 40 years. I still don't see why it would be mothballed. More likely, it would be set up liek it's shown in "2010".
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Divorced, as explained in 'Hathor'."
And definitely not remarried, as she stated that she was unwed less than an hour before she was killed.
"...we don't even know if the Gate was still in the Cheyenne Mountain facility. Or did they show the ramp?"
I seem to recall that the room was discernable as the SGC gate room.
"So unless everything with the Goa'uld wraps up by the end of the eigth season..."
Well, the fact is, it's nearly wrapped up already. The Goa'uld have ended up in a pretty sad state now, and, apparently, the main enemy for season eight will be the Replicators.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"...so *some* advances in Gate technology must continue sometime well into the future."
Maybe. It could also have been one of those Asgard remote thingies. But the fact that the SGC had closed shop and Cassandra's cryptic pointers to Sam are something of a portent that humanity had (or will) really become The Fifth Race� in SG-1's future, I think.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Wow... I really need to get caught up with the late seasons of this series. I just friggin' love this show.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Absolutely. Which is why I'm hoping to have a Stargate forum here one day - we're getting more traffic than the Star Wars forum, after all...
Mark
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Uh...one thread every few weeks or so doesn't exactly require an entire section, in my opinion.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
But by that logic, we should be dumping the Star Wars section.
Mark <--- Loves 'em both
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
We ARE a moderator short at the moment. But... *shrug*
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I wouldn't have a problem with folding Star Wars into here. Perhaps I'm cynical, but I don't think there's going to be much to talk about when the last one comes out.
Also, Competitions is kind of unnecessary as well, but it serves the same useful purpose a leper's colony does.
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