I had no doubt the series would continue the search for Earth. I'm also still expecting the Pegasus to be lost at some point.
Any confirmed word if EJO is returning or not? Someone mentioned a rumor he was not coming back.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I've never heard that rumor.
(I seem to be all about the categorical denials in BG threads lately.)
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I think the comment RDM made in the podcast was a joke.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Am I the only one drawing parallels to the U.S. / Iraq invasion? Take em out but don't totally anihilate them, leave them be for awhile, then come back and occupy and take over for their own good?
It sounds to me like they are trying too hard to be cool and innovative. Seriously, the ONLY way that the NC's population can be rescued is if the toasters LET them. They now know EXACTLY how many survivors there were in the fleet and how many escaped on the fleet at the last second (something like 10K?). All they have to do is park a half dozen Basestars in orbit and they have their little pets perfectly penned. As far as fleet logistics are concerned, there more than likely is very little in the way of supplies, food, fuel as it was probably transferred to the surface for use there. And to top it off, there's a good chance that the key people that would be needed to produce, procure, refine the needed materials are sitting on the planet thinking of ways to torture the Baltar-Boy for his Wile E. Coyote, GENIUS plan to settle the planet. It's going to take some frakking good writing to pull this off. Not to mention, what happened to the farm cattle on the colonies? You can't tell me they were ALL killed off when its obvious the toasters are still interested in reproducing? Unless of course they have used all of them up and that is why they came to restock their little pond.
This really makes my feeling early in the series that the Cylons were herding the humans seem dead on. They should call it New Corral.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Personally, I haven't understood the strategic elements of the US/Iraq-to-BSG comparisons in the slightest. What's that supposed to be, anyway?
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
We were at war. War was over. Then a political shift and we start the war over and occupy.
Cylons were at war. War was virtually over (no real fighting). Cylons get a PLAN from Gawd that changes their politics. They start the war over and occupy the colonies.
And now in some Olivaw/Giskardian shift...its for the "benefit" of humanity.
I wonder how Olivia De Berardini would've painted a Six.
Posted by Bones McCoy (Member # 1480) on :
Adama and, um, Adama are gonna go back to Caprica. That's all I can think will save them now. See, I don't think the Cylons are interested in the Colonies... they're only interested in humanity. Why else would they have nuked the colonies? All that did was reduce the planets to irradiated wastelands, rendering them useless, ESPECIALLY to Cylons, who have a known weakness against radiation. Then they construct this plan to get the humies pinned, off-guard... weak. Right where they want them... as mentioned above: genetic fodder. Cattle.
So all I can think is that the Adamas are gonna go back, salvage whatever's left on the colonies, or even back to Ragnar station (not to mention all the other supply depots scattered about) and run drills like crazy with the remaining crew (possibly even scavanging crews from the other ships in the fleet) and converting the civvie ships into fighting vessels. Sort of like the auxulliary cruisers from WW2.
Then, they go back to New Caprica, and have a showdown with the toasters... after which we'll be left with yet ANOTHER cliffhanger finale.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Cylons had no problems at all living on Caprica after the attack. Their weakness was a specific EM whatsis present on (or I guess in) that gas giant.
Posted by Bones McCoy (Member # 1480) on :
Didn't Baltar manufacture a working Cylon detector using radiation from a nuke? Even if the radiation doesn't kill them, it sure would screw around with them... Although the Cylons living on Caprica during the occupation didn't seem to be bothered by it... Hell, I dunno.
Well, in any event, it's always been my impression that the Cylons weren't too keen on radiation.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Didn't Baltar manufacture a working Cylon detector using radiation from a nuke?"
He manufactured a Cylon detector from a nuke. Whether it worked, and whether it used the radiation specifically, are debatable.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
The Cylons were busy rebuilding Caprica. Apparently the radiation didn't bother them too much.
With all the surviving buildings it's obvious the Cylons used airburts instead of groundburts. Fallout would be less from an airburst and radiation would be less.
How much less, I don't know. Does it matter? I don't know. What's the difference between say 4x a leathal dose as opposed to 2x a leathal dose when you're still dead?
Dialogue from the mini was pretty clear it was something specific with the gas giant that affected the Cylons.
And did we ever hear what Baltar was using the nuke for?
Posted by Bones McCoy (Member # 1480) on :
Well, the detector did work, as demonstrated when Baltar accidentally discovered Boomer's Cylon status. Now, wether he actually used the nuke is another matter, I agree. He said he needed the nuke for the detector, but we dont know if he actually used it for that purpose. I think it was all part of the Cylon plan, the way that they 'accidentally' discovered New Caprica after the detonation... After all, it was Six that got him to ask for the nuke...
But still, I think Galactica and Pegasus would be going back to the colonies, even if there is a Cylon presence there... But that's just my opinion.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I really don't think Gina was working towards any Cylon plan. I think she detonated the warhead because she wanted to kill herself, and she wanted revenge.
Posted by Bones McCoy (Member # 1480) on :
Maybe it wasn't Gina's plan... perhaps it was "God's" plan, though.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
*Bump*
Coupla things I noticed from RDM's latest blog.
First off, I see they've expanded one episode to a two-parter. Now, I seem to remember thinking that several eps last season sometimes felt a bit padded; one obvious example was "Resurrection Ship II" (?) which featured about 15 minutes of Jamie Bamber wallowing around in a pond. We'll see what happens when "Exodus I" and "Exodus II" (ep title sounds like a spoiler, but I thought the New Caprica arc was due to last about a half-dozen-odd eps, not just 3 or 4?) air.
Next, there's this question, and his answer:
quote:". . . Is there significance to the props used, like the hummer and thompson automatic on the wall of the pegasus ready room? Is there an implication that these items evolved in a similar way to the way they have on Earth or is there something deeper to look forwards to?"
The props are all deliberate choices that imply more than just a passing connection between our world and the world of Galactica and there are deeper connections yet to come.
Now, what do you suppose THAT means?
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
BSG happens in the future: They had a Henry Starling-type industrialist who, instead of using knowledge from the future, was simply watching our TV transmissions.
He's gonna shit when he sees BSG.
Yes, I'm kidding.
I don't see any real way to make the connection RDM is suggesting. Overall the technology level of the Colonies seems well beyond Hummers and Thompsons, and while both were undoubtedly old even in the BSG timeline I didn't have the impression that they were hundreds of years old. I'm sure cultural and technological evolution would be skewed by colonization and the evac from Kobol and all, but still.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
*reading through the blog*
The season opener is going to be 2 hours long? After having that 1 & 1/2 hour finale?! God help them if they ever have to do a feature film. It'd be like Peter Jackson's King Kong all over again...only with more robots and not quite so crap.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Yes, but, let's face it - suspiciously-padded two-parters aside, there's always lots going on, and time goes by quickly.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Moore's comments about the props that come from the "real" world caught my eye too. Of course part of the issue � especially with the Hummer � is obviously an issue of expediency for the shooting, to avoid creating unrealistic Trek-like props. But still, I've often thought that BSG could quite easily happen in our future.
For example, what if there were some kind of Firefly-like exodus from Earth, and everyone who left eventually settled on Kobol? But unlike Firefly, it's possible that some people were left behind on Earth. Over time, especially after the departure from Kobol to the Twelve Colonies, the idea of Earth got twisted into a thirteenth colony instead.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Not only expediency, but budget as well. Remember, they've only got a fraction of the budget that Trek did.