Found THIS on AICN. Cleanest shots I've seen yet.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The more I see these, the more I like the design ethic. These are SENTIENT ALIEN MACHINES, after all. The concept that the original G1 guys look like they COULD turn into Earth vehicles even before they got there, is ludicrous (though admittedly this was reconned somewhat in the Dreamwave comics). Beast Wars got it right by showing their generic robot forms pre-Beastialization (or whatever), and Beast Machines also got it right by showing the Vehicons as non-terrestrial tanks and such with visible mouths and such (on Cybertron there's no need for disguise, so why not have a head in cycle mode?).
This is a logical extension of those ideas. You can SEE that Optimus is a decidedly non-Earth robot underneath truck parts that are essentially pasted on, which will shift to become a truck "shell" as the alien machinery underneath moves around inside it to accomodate the shape.
Also, this Optimus has a mouth, but under a classic Prime faceplate which presumably retract. Best combination, and far better than he various mouths that Optimus Primal got stuck with after his first body.
But essentailly, instead of the G1 "cars that change into robots" toy mentality, here we have robots that change into cars, done far better than ever before. I like.
Mark
[ September 05, 2006, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Mark Nguyen ]
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
You know, there's been something about the Prime design that not only seemed kinda... familiar, but also kinda... right. I wasn't able to put my finger on it until reading that article. It definitely has a Megas-ish vibe to it, whether intentional or not. I happen to like it.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I love the body- but hate the paintjob and that nose thing has to go.... Or maybe it's just the eyes not being the cool blue I remember that throws it for me...
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Reminds me of RoboCop 2, the black one. Like R2, I think this design shows too much exposed wiring and parts, too busy and Tribal-Gothicky, but perhaps it looks good when transforming. They probably have assigned some of the small parts to slide and whirr into place nicely, like the beautiful and reinvented VF-0 Veritechs received new ways to better transform logically in "Macross Zero".
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
What happened to OP's 'load'/'trailer' when he was in 'human form'?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
He shot it into some kleenex.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The "black" Robocop 2? There are two: the one in the movie of the same name, and the one in the "Prime Directives" miniseries, portrayed by a black actor. I'm gonna assume the former, which does has a lot of exposed mecahnics - something that never made much sense given how unarmored he was otherwise:
I did like how logical the design was otherwise, though - the two large drums on his chest, for example, were for his nuclear reactor and ammunition for the gatling gun on his arm.
Mark
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Mark said:
quote:for his nuclear reactor
Well, his "nuke"-reactor anyway.
I would like to see him in a metal exo-skeleton. That extendable punch-piston he has there on his left arm was cool, reminded me of the telescoping arm designs of the "Patlabor" mechas, specifically the Zero-type of the first movie, with its piercing-hands.
Posted by Lurker Emeritus (Member # 1888) on :
You know, I am so out of the loop that I didn't even know there was a Transformers movie being made until I read this thread!
Having now watched the trailer on the movie site, I have to say that's the best explanation for Beagle 2's loss I've seen yet!
Hopefully the imagination and creativity suggested by the trailer will play out in the movie as a whole. I already sense a real danger that this turns into nothing more than an expensive CGI robot bashing flick with gorgeous, glossy and heavily choreographed action scene after action scene. That would be dull. I hope the movie will also have something to say, and dare I hope... incorporate some characterisation.
I speak as someone who, when he was knee high to a table leg, inhaled Transformers comics like they were oxygen.
Actually, I still have most of them stashed somewhere They're a bit tatty though.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I wish the logos were far more prominent.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Well Waka-wee-ouu-aaah! (isn't that how you pronounce the transformation sound?)
That thing would kick Robo2's head in I think. Unless he'd get his gun to bear.
Shik barged in and:
quote:I wish the logos were far more prominent.
You know, looking at the X-Men movies, I am glad they didn't give those actors their actual costumes. I just am. Food for thoguhuta. Less is more.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
"...And one WAAAAYY OUT at PEARL!!"
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
So, I guess that's Bumblebee? Although, with the faceplate, maybe they ought to call him "Goldbug".
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik: "...And one WAAAAYY OUT at PEARL!!"
I know that quote, but I can't remember what it's from! Someone care to enlighten me?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Ever seen a shark eating a squid?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Yup! Even once saw a mermaid listening to Pavarotti. (It was Paganini!) Whatever.
(Thanks! That was going to drive me nuts!)
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
-------------------- "Badgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgersbadgers badgersbadgersbadgers." - Headcheese Headcheese I get Knockedown I Getup Again | Come To Papa | Bona Fide Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
You break my page, now I break you, like I break your friend.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Page not hit back. It was asking fer' it.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Does anyone know if Cyclonus will be in? I don't know much about Transformers, I don't mind telling you, but I always thought he was the coolest, most underappreciated character. Loyal and deadly. Also, he had a vehicle mode that actually kicked ass. Anyone who's ever played BF2 knows to run and hide when the jets come.
Now, I may not be able to stand the phrase "Sweepsterminate him!" but that's another thing. Point here is I like Cyclonus. Like'um. Like'um a'lo'. Spacejet. Mm.
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim: Does anyone know if Cyclonus will be in? I don't know much about Transformers, I don't mind telling you, but I always thought he was the coolest, most underappreciated character. Loyal and deadly. Also, he had a vehicle mode that actually kicked ass. Anyone who's ever played BF2 knows to run and hide when the jets come.
Now, I may not be able to stand the phrase "Sweepsterminate him!" but that's another thing. Point here is I like Cyclonus. Like'um. Like'um a'lo'. Spacejet. Mm.
Cyclonus is not on the list of TFs slated to appear. However, from what I hear, Megs' vehicle form is supposed to be some kind of alien jet, so he may bear some resemblance to Cyclonus.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Ah, right, those two were pretty close from what I understand. Although the only recent TF I've watched was the 80's-movie, they seemed pretty close there. Like, the only friend Megatron ever had.
Posted by abradleygreen (Member # 1911) on :
I'm still trying to deside if i like the flames on prime though. Seems kinda flamboyant, no pun intended.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Why do I feel like I'm shouting into a hurricane? They're not robots! They're inorganic life forms. They could at least have got the faces right. *sigh* The more I see the sadder I get.
And I'm still honked off at Volkswagen for not letting them use the old or new Beetle designs for Bumblebee. "We don't want our cars associated with war or violence ever again." Yeah -- but I can only watch the Herbie movies so many times (even with Lindsey Lohan) before I want to kick a puppy.
--Jonah
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: They're not robots! They're inorganic life forms.
Transformers! Inorganic life forms in disguise!
Nah, just doesn't have the same ring to it. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by abradleygreen: I'm still trying to deside if i like the flames on prime though. Seems kinda flamboyant, no pun intended.
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They're a bit tatty though.
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