Anyway, since my thoughts aren't exactly cohesive on this episode (I thought it was a good one), I'll just run down the different points I can remember.
I think Dee was enjoying some parts of Starbuck's "rescue" a bit much, especially stabbing her with the pain killers. So I'm guessing that her first piloting experience?
MinutaeMan:
quote:Also, is it blindingly obvious to everyone else too that the "Eye of Jupiter" is actually the STAR and not an object inside the temple?
Yes, yes it was. As for who the "chosen one" was, I still think it's Starbuck. I think the only reason D'Anna saw a vision was because whatever that thing was killed her, and she's seen visions in death before. She obviously recognized one of the five, but we don't know who it is. I don't think it's Baltar, judging from her reactions.
Helo shooting Athena: I totally did not see that one coming. My impression was that they were going to steal a Raptor or something, right up until the BLAM! Interesting to see Boomer's a bit jaded. Caprica did take Boomer down, but I was suprised there wasn't a stronger reaction in her face to Boomer's threat, considering she did the same thing to a baby just before the nukes blew.
I was actually suprised that they referenced the image in Starbuck's apartment, showing it to be the same as the symbol in the temple.
Tyrol had to have enjoyed clocking Baltar. There's going to be a lot of people envious of that.
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
Surprise surprise the sun explodes while they're there.
Also, yet another wonderful reason why Starbuck isn't going to be in the cockpit for another season and a half.
Anybody have screen caps of Starbuck's apartment on hand to see whether or not the painting was actually there?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Who wants to place bets on who it was that D'Anna recognised out of the Final Five?
Whomever it was she'd obviously met him/her before and feels a need to apologise...so who has she hurt/mistreated personally? Other than Baltar I can't think of any human she's had direct contact with since her cover was blown (off screen) other than a chat with Doc Cottle and another with that Oracle. I really don't want it to be Baltar, nor do I think it's Starbuck, although she obviously has a part in the larger picture.
The only complaint I have about the episode is that the getting away from the planet was a tad rushed, narratively. I lost track of when Athena & Caprica Six made it across, or when Galactic picked up Starbuck & Dee. I understand that dramatically the ticking clock of the impending blast wave would have been a dull cliche as we know perfectly well none of the main characters were about to get knocked off at this point, hence rushing through it, still I did loose the plot for a moment there.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
It could really be anybody, since she was on New Caprica with most of the human population. However, my money's on the Oracle (even before you mentioned her). Not much reason really, except that this way, they stay away from the main cast. I forget, what happened after D'Anna saw the Oracle? Did she kill her?
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Far as I remember she just said thankyou and goodbye. It could actually be someone we've never seen. She was involved in human affairs before we first saw her, so maybe she fucked someone over big time before the holocaust? Or the holocaust could've killed a copy of this person.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Who did she be a fucktard journalist at when she was still undercover? I playfully say the Final Five are Adama, Roslyn, Starbuck, Gaeta, and Cain.
--Jonah
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The Final Five are Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and Archer.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I think that D'Anna's apology is supposed to indicate that it's someone that not only she, but also WE have to know. I have a feeling it'll be blindingly obvious in retrospect, whoever it is.
I will just state once again that if Starbuck does turn out to be a Cylon, I will be extremely PISSED. I'm certainly intrigued by her religious angle that obviously takes a much more obvious bent with the absolutely AWESOME foreshadowing of the painting in her apartment, but I feel also that making her one of the Final Five is incredibly clich�d and would be a severe cop-out for the most tormented character (other than Baltar, who obviously also is not a Cylon) in the show.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
It could also be that one of the existing seven is one of the final five. A mole in the moles? Though that would still leave us a model short. Baltar being one of the final five, one who is somehow in inaccessible programming of every Cylon, would explain both Harvey Six and Harvey Baltar. Though Harvey Baltar is relatively easy to explain now that we know Cylons do similar things with scenery all the time.
Also, what if Starbuck's MOTHER was a Cylon? It would explain where she got the doodle. It would also put an interesting spin on the lineages. For all we know, the five older Cylons have been bred into the human population for centuries.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
The one D'anna was apologising to was Gabrielle (Rene� O'Connor).
--Jonah
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: Also, what if Starbuck's MOTHER was a Cylon? It would explain where she got the doodle. It would also put an interesting spin on the lineages. For all we know, the five older Cylons have been bred into the human population for centuries.
Except that the cylons have only been around for 40 years, give or take.
I did consider Caprica Six to be a good candidate for one of the Final Five, however as has been pointed out that would mean there's only 11 models and it'd be a bit of a copout.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
THESE Cylons have only been around forty years. From D'anna's comments, it's possible that the Cylons that left Caprica encountered older Cylons from a previous cycle of events.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: The Final Five are Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and Archer.
No they're not. The Final Five are Blue Mega Man, Green Mega Man, Red Mega Man, Yellow Mega Man, and The Mega Cycle who combine to form Ultra Mega Mega Man!(See if you can get that reference)
Not much to say which hasn't been said before although I do have a question. Considering that starring at the sun is bad for your eyes, shouldn't starring at a supernova be just as bad. I'm referring to when Tyrol looks up to see the "Eye of Jupiter".
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
quote: Considering that starring at the sun is bad for your eyes, shouldn't starring at a supernova be just as bad. I'm referring to when Tyrol looks up to see the "Eye of Jupiter".
Ah-ha! The first proof that Tyrol is one of the Final Five! With super machine eyes.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: No they're not. The Final Five are Blue Mega Man, Green Mega Man, Red Mega Man, Yellow Mega Man, and The Mega Cycle who combine to form Ultra Mega Mega Man!(See if you can get that reference)
What's the prize for guessing correctly? Cheesy Poofs, or Snacky Cakes? Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Could the apology-receiver have been the Hybrid? I was interrupted by a phone call during the scene when the Hybrid was first introduced, so I don't know if they said anything then which would make it impossible.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
That's a very good point, actually. It would kinda fit... they've seemed to have approached the concept of the Hybrid as something that either started out as sentient, or else semi-sentient, and was overwhelmed by the connections to their ships.
Obviously the Cylons know about the Hybrid, but it's possible they don't realize something critical about her/its nature.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: No they're not. The Final Five are Blue Mega Man, Green Mega Man, Red Mega Man, Yellow Mega Man, and The Mega Cycle who combine to form Ultra Mega Mega Man!(See if you can get that reference)
What's the prize for guessing correctly? Cheesy Poofs, or Snacky Cakes?
An Okama Gamesphere!
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Damn, beaten to nominating the Hybrid as a Five-Candidate.
Starbuck options:
1. She's a Cylon. Yes, it's a cop-out dramatically, but it explains how she can be so good at everything yet still have the angst. 2. She's an Oracle. Allows for all of the above, such as trying to put aside the weird eye/nova visions in favour of more physical pursuits, but also means she can believe in infidelity but not divorce. 3. She's Wesley. No, stop screaming! But she's going to Ascend in some way.
And - you just know I'm gonna mention this - thank Christ Hera's OK. Funny how things have been so turned around - where we once saw ex-Caprica-Boomer, now Athena, and thought "sneaky bitch" she's now the goodie, whereas ex-Galactica-Boomer went from tortured and sympathetic to bitch.
Oh, and sucks to be Three.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Well I suppose being tortured doesn't usually leave you with a sunny disposition. Plus I imagine she's a little jealous of Athena.
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Jealous of the fact that SHE'S on board Galactica with her old friends and life? Plus she's married to Helo... even I know that's better than Chief.
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