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B.J.
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Somebody had to start a thread.....

Anyway, since my thoughts aren't exactly cohesive on this episode (I thought it was a good one), I'll just run down the different points I can remember.

I think Dee was enjoying some parts of Starbuck's "rescue" a bit much, especially stabbing her with the pain killers. So I'm guessing that her first piloting experience?

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Also, is it blindingly obvious to everyone else too that the "Eye of Jupiter" is actually the STAR and not an object inside the temple?
Yes, yes it was. As for who the "chosen one" was, I still think it's Starbuck. I think the only reason D'Anna saw a vision was because whatever that thing was killed her, and she's seen visions in death before. She obviously recognized one of the five, but we don't know who it is. I don't think it's Baltar, judging from her reactions.

Helo shooting Athena: I totally did not see that one coming. My impression was that they were going to steal a Raptor or something, right up until the BLAM! Interesting to see Boomer's a bit jaded. Caprica did take Boomer down, but I was suprised there wasn't a stronger reaction in her face to Boomer's threat, considering she did the same thing to a baby just before the nukes blew.

I was actually suprised that they referenced the image in Starbuck's apartment, showing it to be the same as the symbol in the temple.

Tyrol had to have enjoyed clocking Baltar. There's going to be a lot of people envious of that.

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Surprise surprise the sun explodes while they're there.

Also, yet another wonderful reason why Starbuck isn't going to be in the cockpit for another season and a half.

Anybody have screen caps of Starbuck's apartment on hand to see whether or not the painting was actually there?

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B.J.
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Who wants to place bets on who it was that D'Anna recognised out of the Final Five?

Whomever it was she'd obviously met him/her before and feels a need to apologise...so who has she hurt/mistreated personally? Other than Baltar I can't think of any human she's had direct contact with since her cover was blown (off screen) other than a chat with Doc Cottle and another with that Oracle.
I really don't want it to be Baltar, nor do I think it's Starbuck, although she obviously has a part in the larger picture.

The only complaint I have about the episode is that the getting away from the planet was a tad rushed, narratively. I lost track of when Athena & Caprica Six made it across, or when Galactic picked up Starbuck & Dee.
I understand that dramatically the ticking clock of the impending blast wave would have been a dull cliche as we know perfectly well none of the main characters were about to get knocked off at this point, hence rushing through it, still I did loose the plot for a moment there.

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B.J.
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It could really be anybody, since she was on New Caprica with most of the human population. However, my money's on the Oracle (even before you mentioned her). Not much reason really, except that this way, they stay away from the main cast. I forget, what happened after D'Anna saw the Oracle? Did she kill her?
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Far as I remember she just said thankyou and goodbye. It could actually be someone we've never seen. She was involved in human affairs before we first saw her, so maybe she fucked someone over big time before the holocaust? Or the holocaust could've killed a copy of this person.

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Who did she be a fucktard journalist at when she was still undercover? I playfully say the Final Five are Adama, Roslyn, Starbuck, Gaeta, and Cain.

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The Final Five are Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and Archer.

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I think that D'Anna's apology is supposed to indicate that it's someone that not only she, but also WE have to know. I have a feeling it'll be blindingly obvious in retrospect, whoever it is.

I will just state once again that if Starbuck does turn out to be a Cylon, I will be extremely PISSED. I'm certainly intrigued by her religious angle that obviously takes a much more obvious bent with the absolutely AWESOME foreshadowing of the painting in her apartment, but I feel also that making her one of the Final Five is incredibly clich�d and would be a severe cop-out for the most tormented character (other than Baltar, who obviously also is not a Cylon) in the show.

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It could also be that one of the existing seven is one of the final five. A mole in the moles? Though that would still leave us a model short. Baltar being one of the final five, one who is somehow in inaccessible programming of every Cylon, would explain both Harvey Six and Harvey Baltar. Though Harvey Baltar is relatively easy to explain now that we know Cylons do similar things with scenery all the time.

Also, what if Starbuck's MOTHER was a Cylon? It would explain where she got the doodle. It would also put an interesting spin on the lineages. For all we know, the five older Cylons have been bred into the human population for centuries.

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The one D'anna was apologising to was Gabrielle (Rene� O'Connor). [Wink]

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quote:
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Also, what if Starbuck's MOTHER was a Cylon? It would explain where she got the doodle. It would also put an interesting spin on the lineages. For all we know, the five older Cylons have been bred into the human population for centuries.

Except that the cylons have only been around for 40 years, give or take.

I did consider Caprica Six to be a good candidate for one of the Final Five, however as has been pointed out that would mean there's only 11 models and it'd be a bit of a copout.

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THESE Cylons have only been around forty years. From D'anna's comments, it's possible that the Cylons that left Caprica encountered older Cylons from a previous cycle of events.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
The Final Five are Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and Archer.

No they're not. The Final Five are Blue Mega Man, Green Mega Man, Red Mega Man, Yellow Mega Man, and The Mega Cycle who combine to form Ultra Mega Mega Man!(See if you can get that reference)

Not much to say which hasn't been said before although I do have a question. Considering that starring at the sun is bad for your eyes, shouldn't starring at a supernova be just as bad. I'm referring to when Tyrol looks up to see the "Eye of Jupiter".

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Considering that starring at the sun is bad for your eyes, shouldn't starring at a supernova be just as bad. I'm referring to when Tyrol looks up to see the "Eye of Jupiter".
Ah-ha! The first proof that Tyrol is one of the Final Five! With super machine eyes.

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