I'm not sure what else I can say right now, except for this. When I first saw "Maelstrom," I commented to several coworkers (also fans of the show), that I would be extraordinarily pissed if they brought back Starbuck as a Cylon. I said that I'd much rather she stay dead than have her turn out to be a Cylon.
Well, I never figured that they'd end up making ALL FIVE of the Final Fracking Five Cylons turn out to be major players in the fleet! That takes the whole concept from a throwaway excuse into a major series plot development. Plus, having her claiming to know the way to Earth now? Hooo, boy...
Forgive me, Mr. Moore, I never should've doubted you guys. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
All I can sat is What the Fuck?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Plus, having her claiming to know the way to Earth now?"
Well, clearly, someone made it to Earth, and learned about the music of Bob Dylan.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Personally, I'm still not convinced they're the Final Five. They might be, but things just don't seem to be that simple.
There's a lot of other strange things going on, too. Just before the fleet went "ACK!", Roslin went "ACK!", without much of an explanation. Also, Roslin seems to be sharing the Opera House dream with Athena and Caprica, and none of them know why.
Interesting that the Admiral changed his vote, but I think it was for different reasons than he mentioned. He doesn't get to push the button now, but he gets to watch Baltar squirm while constantly looking behind his back, like a rat being hunted. He didn't bet on the Cult of Baltar, though.
As for the ending, I kept myself spoiler-free, so I totally didn't see that coming. When Apollo saw the unknown contact, I was half-expecting to see a Ship of Lights. When that huge circular exhaust first flashed on the screen, I said "No!" in astonishment. I'm not sure about the ship overall, but in the closeup, Starbuck's canopy was polished to a shine.
So, I'm left with more questions than answers now. And at least nine months until the next episode! Unless they backtrack some, there won't be any interstitial webisodes, because they pretty much have to pick up immediately where they left off this time.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Though what was that huge object in the nebula? At least I thought I saw something in the nebula(besides Starbuck)?
[ March 26, 2007, 06:22 AM: Message edited by: Mars Needs Women ]
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I'd have to look again. I didn't see anything else.
Oh, one more point about them not being Cylons (despite them thinking they *might* be): Tigh. He's been around too long (with verifiable evidence) to be one of the current batch of skin-jobs, since they were developed sometime after the first Cylon War. Like I said, if they are Cylons, the answer is a lot more complex than just that.
(One of my theories: The 13th tribe (Earth) are the original humans, and the 12 colonies were the original Cylons, that all left Kobol after their war. Remember, "this has all happened before". But honestly, I hope this theory is wrong.)
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
BTW, Cylons invaded my frakin' dreams last night. That's how much this has been running through my head since yesterday. I've never even had dreams about Star Trek before! It was rather wierd. And for some reason included a black-haired slightly chubby Three.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I thought I saw something in the nebula too. Something like a huge space station-type object? I dunno.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Holy. Fuck.
Is it time for season 4 yet?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: I thought I saw something in the nebula too. Something like a huge space station-type object? I dunno.
Yeah it was black and spheroid.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Funny, I never got the idea that Kara was a Final Five. And I've changed my tune(heh) from what I thought last week about the rest of them. I don't think any of them, including Kara are Cylons. My bet is that the music was another beacon left to guide the Colonials to Earth.
Kara's apparent resurrection is harder to explain, but I'm guessing the inhabitants of Earth are behind that too. If their first beacon was designed to wipe out the Cylons and it failed, maybe they took Kara as another method of safely guiding the Colonials to Earth.
I didn't see anything else in the nebula, but when the camera zoomed right out at the end you saw planets. Planets are often black and spheroid, so... I was kind of expecting an Earth ship for a moment there. Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
A Borg Sphere!
Now, is there a spoiler-laden synopsis somewhere for those who haven't yet downloaded the episode, but can't wait for a who-is-a-what revelation?
Mark
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Well, if all you want is the Four (the fifth has yet to be revealed), they are Tigh, Tyrol, Tori (Prez's assistant), and Anders. That's Samuel T. Anders.
BTW, I'm still not convinced they are actually Cylons.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Still not quite digested all of the revelations yet. If anything it all raises more questions.
Tigh himself remarked he'd been in 2 wars, had been a friend to Adama since the 1st (not sure about that last part, I know they served together AFTER the war on a cargo ship...)
Anders was a celebrity sportsman who happened to survive the attack (though you could label that as providence rather than coincidence.)
Tyrol is a tough one, for starters he conceived a child, something Cylons aren't supposed to be capable of...though there is Hera and it's on odd coincidence that Boomer was attracted to him.
Billy mk2 (I forget her name) is mostly an unknown quantity since we only know her as someone who appeared to fill Billy's shoes.
Starbuck, well, duh. After Maelstrom it's not wholly unexpected.
The only pattern I can see is that all these characters are in a supporting role, and I don't mean they're not stars. None of them are willing leaders, they're followers, soldiers, each in their own way. Even though they were all senior members of the resistance, at no point did they consider themselves "in charge". Anders was in it for his people, Tyrol worked for Tigh, Wots-er-name worked for Laura & Tigh worked for Adama. None of them want power, do everything they can to avoid it, most of them are rogues, rebels & misfits and even after they seam to remember, they don't seam to have any greater agenda and REALLY want to be who they are.
I wonder if the reason the others cannot know the final five is because they remained loyal to humanity when the other turned on their former masters?
Ok, ramble over, for now.
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
T is for Toaster.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: a spoiler-laden synopsis
No kind of synopsis can convey the insanity of those last few scenes.
Not quite sure what happens. With all the crazy things going on, I refuse to believe Tigh etc. are 'simply' the Final Five. Either they are 'incarnations' of the Final Five caused by Caprica-Six's weird dreams/projections, or they are something much older than the other skinjobs (perhaps even older than the pre-Armistice chromedomes!?). Even then.. Kara Thrace is even more mysterious. I have a strange feeling she might be a 'Baltarian' projection existing in Apollo's head. It would explain the odd looking face-to-face conversation they had.
Hmm.. not sure what (if anything) Apollo saw in the nebula. It may have been just the reflection of the inside of the canopee, but it seemed like a CGI scene, so it was probably 'something'. And he was sort of looking at it, only to be interrupted by Starbuck.
And is Bob Dylan a Cylon now? This was more than just background music. The characters were actually saying the lyrics and humming to a (covered) Bob Dylan tune! I guess this may have actually been music from the BSG Earth.
Oh.. and no-one has yet mentioned that we actually get to see Earth in the last shot? They zoom way out from Apollo and Starbuck to above the galactic plane, and then zoom back into Earth, with a clearly identifiable North America.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I can't get that song out of my head now! It's been going over and over in my head since last night (the Hendix version, of course).
And talk about prophetic, check out this video, uploaded in November 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7da3iwxMUjU Freaky!
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
My God were all cylons!
Edit: I liked the version in yesterdays episode, more funky!
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Krenim: T is for Toaster.
And what about Thrace, Tigh, Tyrol and Tory?
As for the music, I think they've had something like this in mind since season 1. If I recall correctly the Kobol Cliffhanger was meant to end with Baltar wandering through the (projected/dream) Opera house on Kobol with Hendrix playing in the background, only to meet Dirk Benedick and have him say, "Hi, I'm God."
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I could still see that very well happening, what with that ending and this new cult that seems to worship Baltar.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Is it just me or is the chicky that spoke to Baltar and put the hood on him the same journalist he nookied in the bathroom on Cloud Nine in "Colonial Day"?
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
It's just you. See here and here. I'm actually surprised you remembered the one in Colonial Day, since it was back in the first season.
Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Well... I was right. I'm gonna buy a lotto ticket...
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Assuming for a moment that everything RDM is telling us now is true, then the Four *are* Cylons (although "fundamentally different"), and Starbuck is *not*. (I wish I could find a source for the second comment, since I only heard that one second-hand.) So, that leaves one that hasn't been revealed, but apparently we know them. So who's the One? (Quiet, Zathras!)
First, I'm going to assume the One is a woman, simply because the 5 people that were in the cloaks were 3 men and 2 women. It's not a lot to go on, but it narrows the field significantly. Also, the One wasn't on Galactica (or was interfered with somehow) to meet the others. So these are the candidates I came up with, from least likely to most likely:
4 - Racetrack - This is assuming she was in the trailing Raptor again when the fleet jumped and had their power outage. Athough she has done a lot for the fleet (and deserves a frakin' medal IMO), keeping this one from us wouldn't have much impact.
3 - Laura Roslin - I'm not ruling her out because of her reaction just before the fleet went *ACK*. The cancer and/or chamalla may have been interfering with her reception of the song. But her as a Cylon would be a bit much.
2 - Admiral Caine - Possible, and would be an interesting choice, but I don't think her personality fits too well with the others.
1 - Ellen Tigh - Definitely the #1 choice for me. Could also explain why she and Saul never had any kids. I don't think it would diminish the impact of what Saul did on New Caprica at the time, and could certainly change his motivation in the future.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: Ellen Tigh
Hmm.. wasn't the song originally linked to Ellen and Saul's time on New Caprica?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Another possibility is Harvey. All the hallucinations people see are actually manifestations of the final remaining Cylon in some way. Or how about the Hybrid?
You know, for a while now I've been wondering if the opening titles are still applicable. "The Cylons were created by man. They rebelled. They evolved. There are many copies. And they have a plan." For a while now it's been kinda obvious that the Cylons we know are playing it by ear. But the titles may be talking about the others...
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
The Hybrid! She gets my vote as the final five. Which would definately explain the "I'm so sorry" from Three when she saw her.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
But then that would assume that Three knows what the hybrid will look like as an adult.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
...except the hybrid was an adult. Oh I see, you're thinking of Hera.
I think it's perfectly obvious that the 5th Cylon is Jimmi Hendrix.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Don't you mean Bob Dylan?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Oh I know what hybrid your talking about, the one attached to the baseship. My mistake! That would be a good choice conciderning how strange they act.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: Don't you mean Bob Dylan?
I could have sworn it was Hendrix's cover of Watchtower. Maybe Bob Dylan is Lucifer, or Cassiopia or something. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
The song was originally by Dylan, but Hendrix covered it. The version used on Galactica was clloser to Hendrix's cover, 'cause of the wicked guitar riffs.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Hmm.. this may be the first time I'm interested in buying a soundtrack CD from a television series.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Bond, James Bond over at SCN made this connection:
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
It could just be a coincidence.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I've seen that. The way it moves during the zoom-out proves to me it's a part of the Hubble picture they used for the nebula.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Yep, they just look like normal diffraction spikes to me...
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Agreed. It's a photo element. Besides, if this show was to use the ship of lights (and that may already be doing just that), I doubt they'd use an actual ship. Weird visions and maifestations that are not who they appear to be would suffice.
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
Initially I think I was upset by the inclusion of the Dylan song. I'm less sure now. There needs to be a justification for it. If they're receiving signals from Earth that might be one good one. Kara's magical re-appearance was surreal, but not at all unexpected. I evidently missed the giant space-ball. Very cool that we see Earth in that last shot, but if anyone busts out the hoverbikes I'm outta here.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Moore has said that the song is supposed to be of Colonial origin and not from Earth.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Are you referring to his comment that the music represents the opening of the door in their minds(to the possibility of being Cylons), rather than any actual signals from Earth? Or has he said explicitly that it's a Colonial song.
I was hoping it was some sort of beacon from Earth that was designed to interact with the remaining skinjobs. Perhaps so they'd be aware of what they were, and could prevent themselves from doing anything untoward if their programming kicked in.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
From BSG Wiki: Bear McCreary discusses the use of the Bob Dylan song:
I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters' universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics. Perhaps this unknown performer and Dylan pulled inspiration from a common, ethereal source.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
I prefered the message from Earth idea. Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
It's obviously the same source that has modern-day EVERYTHING showing up in the series all the time...
Mark
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Very Jungian, I like it.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
That guy had some neat music. Providing he's the dude I'm thinking of. Crusade guy?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Nope, Evan Chen did Crusade.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
For the record, I think Reverend is referring to Carl Jung and the theory of the collective unconsciousness. As in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Well spotted that man!
Depending on exactly when Galactic is based would determine if this is a collective unconsious phenomenon (Bo-Boo-Bo-Do-Bup) or a genetic race memory. If it's our future & we were the original Lords of Kobol (as some have suggested) then it's probably a race memory. If it's contempory then all the Humvees, flintlocks, portable DVD players, 60's style microphones, cigar lighters and sailing ships are probably in the collective unconsious.
That is if I understand the distinction propperly...which I don't think I do.
Then there's always the possibility that the Vorlons created Bob Dylans on a hundred worlds to act as cannon fodder in the next anti-war movment.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
"All Along The Watchtower" is one of my favourite songs, so I noticed when the first line was used in Part I, I think. And loved it when it made its full appearance in Part II. So the notion that it's meant to stand-in for a Colonial song is really a cop-out. That song could only be written by Bob Dylan - write you own bloody Colonial pop song, ursine composer-person!
It could be a smokescreen, but it would seem to indicate that Starbuck is not intended to be the Final Cylon.
Nice to know I'm not the only person to notice the glow around Apollo and think "Ship of Light!"
I liked Romo Lampkin. I wonder if Kevin Spacey in K-PAX was an inspiration for the way the character was written/played?
About the coda in that link above - after seeing the ep last night (I've been way behind) I was thinking that for a season finale/cliff-hanger, this easily topped "Lay Down Your Burdens." And that really Season Four will probably be the last. There's only one Cylon left to discover, and you have a character who knows the way to Earth (I read that scene to indicate she was going to take Apollo there, right now, just the two of them, but I guess she really meant the whole fleet, eventually). I think they'd do well to make the most of the 22 eps plus telemovie to end the show on a real high. If that means we lose some of the character-driven semi-filler stand-alone eps along the lines of "Dee goes on a journey of self-discovery and conquers her personal demons and reconciles with Lee while fixing a problem with the Galactica waste-disposal system," then so be it.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I'm sorry to hear that Galactica had low ratings, it's such a good show. Has this been the case since the show's beginning or has it started since the show changed schedule? Either way we won't have to wait so long for Galactica cause Ron Moore seems that indicate that they'll be some mini-season which involves Admiral Cain and the Pegasus.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
I think it had low ratings because there were too many filler episodes along the lines of what Lee described. The beginning and ending of season 3 were fantastic, but in the middle they just seemed to coast along with soap opera storylines usually centering on the love quadrangle between Lee, Kara, Anders and Dee. I for one prefer stories that make use of the apocalyptic holocaust, the struggle to survive, and the other sci-fi elements(which is why I found the beginning and end of the season more enjoyable) than stories which have been told in countless other shows.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Personally I rather like to episodes that address the realities of being a civilisation on the run (aswell as the smash bang ones of course) and all the internal political & social strife that ensues. To be fair though, I can't point to any specific episode and say it was especially bad, like say "Black Market" in Season 2. Just a general lowering of the average quality and interest across the season. Mind you, it was always going to be hard to follow the New Caprica arc, no matter what. Perhaps they were wise to take a step back to allow for the fantastic cliff hanger that is "Crossroads".
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
This year's mid-season non-arc eps have seemed less relevant than last year's, with more soap-operatical A-stories at the expense of the gritty-civilisation-on-the-run B-stories.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
The Fynol Cylon (!) isn't Adama Snr. or Roslin. Unless he's telling porkies. And not Starbuck either.
Can we reasonably assume that a) the last one is female (based on that image I used for a CapCom), meaning the final total is 7 male, 5 female; and b) whoever it is wasn't on Galactica at the end of this ep, since otherwise they would have joined the singalaongaDylan session in the gym?
If so, that would rule out Cally, Dualla and Seelix (who looked like she might have heard the music, when it first appeared in the bar, when Tigh was tuning the radio and she was playing Pyramid with Anders; it would explain why she was so pissed off about Anders & Tori, why be jealous of her when she wasn't, that we saw, about Starbuck?) but not Racetrack (assuming we never saw her hearing the music but she did, but couldn't go along because she had to scramble her Raptor).
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
From an earlier post of mine:
quote:Originally posted by B.J.: .....So these are the candidates I came up with, from least likely to most likely:
4 - Racetrack - This is assuming she was in the trailing Raptor again when the fleet jumped and had their power outage. Athough she has done a lot for the fleet (and deserves a frakin' medal IMO), keeping this one from us wouldn't have much impact.
3 - Laura Roslin - I'm not ruling her out because of her reaction just before the fleet went *ACK*. The cancer and/or chamalla may have been interfering with her reception of the song. But her as a Cylon would be a bit much.
2 - Admiral Caine - Possible, and would be an interesting choice, but I don't think her personality fits too well with the others.
1 - Ellen Tigh - Definitely the #1 choice for me. Could also explain why she and Saul never had any kids. I don't think it would diminish the impact of what Saul did on New Caprica at the time, and could certainly change his motivation in the future.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Yes, your post was an inspiration in making mine, but I forgot about referencing it directly. It seems to me that having someone now-dead be revealed as the last one might be a bit of a cop out. Could be Kat. . ! But apparently hints have been dropped as to who it is. If only we knew when and where they were dropped. . .
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Maybe they'll drop us a few more hints in the upcoming Pegasus movie.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I guess the questions a) and b) I'm asking above are really more about: can we reasonably make those assumptions, and then speculate based on them and look for clues/hints to confirm? Because, although, yes, it's a pointless exercise, it'll be what it turns out to be, but it'll be made even more pointless if it turns out to be Gaeta, and RDM then says in his podcast "Although we did use two females in the Final Five long-shots, we never saw them in close-up sos didn't have any problem in ignoring that. Why didn't he join the Other Four in the gym? I guess he was in the bathroom, or something."
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
OK I'm an idiot. I clicked on this thread - stupidly - I haven't even gotten halfway through season 2 and I see Starbuck dies. FUCK! or FRACK!
Happens to me with all the good 'deaths' on TV. Buffy a big one of them.
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
My dear Andrew, whyever did you post a Buffy spoiler in a Galactica thread?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
In the Sixth Sense, it turns out that Bruce Willis was a ghost.
Posted by Josh (Member # 1884) on :
In the Usual Suspects, Spacey did it!
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
Freakin' hysterical.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
In the end, they shoot Old Yeller.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
It's the sled.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Darth Vader is Luke's father!
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
The woman in "The Crying Game" is really a man!
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Soylent Green is people.
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
More from Chuck: It was the Earth all along.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
The Zebra did it!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
shuddup.
heheheh.
Hang on isn't the Woman in The Crying Game... a Goa'uld? Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Either way, there's a snake involved.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Hahahahah!
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Ripley has acid reflux.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Armageddon: Despite the audiences wishes, Bruce Willis gives his life to save Ben Affleck.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
In Reservoir Dogs, everyone except Mr.Pink dies.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
But who shot Nice Guy Eddie?
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Spock dies.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
So does Kirk and Data apparently.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Spock lives!
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Still no-one understand any David Lynch movies!
Posted by Josh (Member # 1884) on :
Tony Montana dies
Connor Macleod wins the game
The one armed-man killed her
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Fiona is an ogre!
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Bond's wife dies on the way to the Honeymoon.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Oh please. Saw THAT one coming a mile away.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
He should've taken a leaf from Spiderman's book and set her up with Felix.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Except that Felix's wife is raped & killed, & Felix himself loses a leg from a shark.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
It's a cookbook!
(Incidentally, one mad thought floated into my brain when on the verge of sleep last night - what if they had brought Starbuck back, but as a man instead?)
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Interesting thought. The real question though, is which would piss Dirk Benedict off more?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I think he was pissed off already at Starbuck being female. Like he says:
One thing is certain. In the new un-imagined, re-imagined world of Battlestar Galactica everything is female driven. The male characters, from Adama on down, are confused, weak, and wracked with indecision while the female characters are decisive, bold, angry as hell, puffing cigars (gasp) and not about to take it any more.
And if you don't enjoy the show [...], it's not the fault of those re-imaginative technocrats that brought them to you. It is your fault. You and your individual instincts, tastes, judgement. Your refusal to let go of the memory of the show that once was. You just don't know what is good for you. But stay tuned. After another 13 episodes (and millions of dollar of marketing), you will see the light. You, your instincts, your judgement, are wrong. McDonald's is the best hamburger on the planet, Coca-Cola the best drink. Stardoe is the best Viper Pilot in the Galaxy. And Battlestar Galactica, contrary to what your memory tells you, never existed before the Re-imagination of 2003.
I disagree. But perhaps, you had to be there.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
When this whole thing was getting started, he met with Katee Sackhoff.
At a Starbucks.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I guess he was faking it at the meeting. Either that or he perhaps saw the direction the show was going and started hating it again.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
I thought the substance of that meeting was:
"So who do you play in the show?" "A Viper pilot called Starbuck." "...What?"
Followed by the diatribe above.
So I had dropped Galactica after missing it a couple times in its new slot (and having to catch the repeats), and getting disgusted by the soap opera that was passing as episode-writing. I finally caught the last three eps f the season, and I'll definitely be there when the new season premieres. Too bad they couldn't keep the quality level this high throughout the season (*cough*).
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