They said Luke was the one - but all he did was return the good-guys to power. Qui Gon thought it was Anakin - I think it is HIM - since he started to balance up the Jedi with the Sith.
Or was it that Anakin - tipped the scales too far - and Luke brought them back in line? The only remaining Jedi... was he a little bit of Sith and Jedi?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
There have been remarks that Skywalker's using force Grip on the gonorrhean guard at Jabba's palace was a bit unethical for a Jedi.
Later entries have said that though the force powers are different from one another in being offensive or defensive, both sides can use them at their discretion. I think all Jedi are trained to know the powers available to them, so they can control them. The Jedi might be dogmatic, ostracizing members that drift from the Way, but they are not stupid.
Yoda was able to send back Dooku's Lightning bolt in intact form to him, showing that he controlled it and could use it accurately. Also, Jedi Mind Trick has long been a typical "good power" but, as Senator Palpatine has eminently proven, the Sith know all about using calm, inoffensive stealth and guile to hide their existense.
As for balance of the force, since Windu seemed to quote the prophecy literally, it probably was a utopian dream of making the evil, or if we're to be neutral, the dissonance go away from the galactic force-pool and create peace.
The One would have been an emissary (Lucas probably had Jesus in mind) creating alliances, ending wars, bridging gaps and creating a benevolent equilibrium.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Anakin WAS the imbalance, and the counterbalance.
Posted by Woodside Kid (Member # 699) on :
Or, perhaps (since the Jedi could no longer forsee events accurately due to the Dark Side), Palpatine and the rise of the Sith formed the imbalance, and Anakin was meant to bring them down to restore the balance.
Posted by ZARDOZ (Member # 1064) on :
quote:Originally posted by Woodside Kid: Or, perhaps (since the Jedi could no longer forsee events accurately due to the Dark Side), Palpatine and the rise of the Sith formed the imbalance, and Anakin was meant to bring them down to restore the balance.
And he restores it when he kills Palpatine and dies in Ep.VI
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
I have always thought of it as a retelling of the Arthurian story that has Merlin (Qui-Gon in this case, or Obi-Wan and the Jedi collectively) seeking out a prophesized knight, thinking it is Lancelot (Anakin) and ending up being mistaken. Lancelot caused more trouble than he solved because rather than stay true to his code he messed around with the Queen (Amidala). In fact, Lancelot's son Gallahad (Luke) ended up being the one Merlin was looking for.
The parallels are quite striking IMHO.
-MMoM Posted by Capt.Blair245 (Member # 1113) on :
For some reason I always thought that when Windu said the "Balance of Force" thing, he was talking about how the force was embalanced in a sense that Jedis could not use different Force Powers. By doing that Jedis will be able to control Sith powers and vice versa.
It might explain how Luke used the Grip (no pun intended) in ROTJ. As for Yoda, he was just powerful enough to deflect it, not conjur one up.
Oh sry for the long text, in Hawaii you have a lot of time to think about these things...
Blair
Posted by CaptainMike20X6 (Member # 709) on :
well balance was achieved but very different than some Jedi assumed..
after all, after Ep 3, the only trained force users alive will be Kenobi, Yoda, Anakin and Palpatine..
two Jedi. two Sith.
balance.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
And during episode 1, we had two sith users, and hundreds of good Jedi.
Imbalance.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Thousands, spread over the galaxy like too much butter over too little bread.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Capt.Blair245: Yoda held the surge for a couple of moments, then sent it back with more power than Dooku initially created. I believe it showed that he at least was familiar with and controlled the technique and would not allow Dooku any leverage or, for that matter, the impression that he had passed beyond his former teacher's level. Which he had not.
A Shaolin master would not abstain from kicking you in the beanbag if the opportunity presented itself and it would end the fight. This I know from experience.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Well, if you want to take the EU into account, there were a WHOLE lot of Dark Jedi floating around the universe besides the four we know. But we don't want to. Posted by CaptainMike20X6 (Member # 709) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: Well, if you want to take the EU into account..
that kind of talk just made me throw up in my mouth by accident.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Oh hey, Star Wars, I remember that.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
As to Jedi bowing all kinds of force powers: Obi-Wan sure was'nt suprised to se the ol' Darkforce Lightning (not to be confused with the less powerful but more musical "Grease Lightning"). He was trained to block it with his sabre: no sweat there.
Lots of Jedi makes the galaxy as a whole galaxy turn seedy and evil to balance them out, Vader kills the Jedi and the whole Galaxy goes waaaay out of balance and slowly tilts back towards good with the next generation and the Rebel alliance and the return of a lone Jedi. Vader kills Sideous and croaks leaving Luke, Leia the New republic and a still scummy galaxy in balance with each other. Or Lucas is making shit up as he goes with no plan at all and hoping for the best.
It's also possible that fewer Sith are more powerful as indivduals than they'd be if there were dozens of them. Or they grow midichlorians on old cheese in their fridges....
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
So, in essence, you don't stand for anything you ever say? Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"It's also possible that fewer Sith are more powerful as indivduals than they'd be if there were dozens of them."
That's true. They'd be too busy chopping each other's heads off to pose a threat to the JO. B)
[ September 09, 2003, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: Cartman ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"There can be only two!"
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: "It's also possible that fewer Sith are more powerful as indivduals than they'd be if there were dozens of them."
That's true. They'd be too busy chopping each other's heads off to pose a threat to the JO. B)
Why killing each other? You'd think their mutual hatred for...well everything....would allow them to work together at least in te short term. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
The dark force-users calling themselves the Sith (after a race they conquered and later slaughtered) couldn't work together as everyone wanted to rule the others. Lots of daggers in backs and such. Then Darth Bane created the rule of two. Only two Sith at a time, no internal struggle.
The remaining flaw would be that the apprentice is likely to kill the master when he feels ready to take on his own apprentice or is just ambitious... Or if he pities his son. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
That idea is from the novels and Lucas has said that he does'nt read or follow them.
He could just as easily have a horde of Sith in the next movie. Besides, Sideous had both Maul and Dooku working for him at the same time didint he? He must have if he has a big "master plan". Dooku might not have known about Maul but that does'nt mean Maul did not know about Dooku. Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Wait wait wait. . . Putting aside the question of why there should only ever be two Sith, because we'll likely never get an answer, except maybe a "just because. . ." I always assumed that Count Dooku was just some Force-handy guy that managed to link up with Darth Chancellor when he was looking for a replacement for Darth Apprentice; since all his plans were proceding nicely, he didn't feel he had time to recruit and train another apprentice, and the likely candidate (The Boy) was too high-profile to interfere with. . .
But you're saying not, that in fact Dooku was probably a long-term associate of Palpatine's and might have been Darth Tyrannus all along? And that of Maul and Tyrannus, one knew of the other, but not vice versa? What's your source on that? And what is the timeline established in AoTC for Dooku's activities that suggested he was a Sith all along, since long before TPM?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I'm only speculating of Maul/Dooku knowing of each other based on Dooku's being a bit peeved that Maul killed Qui-Gon.
I [/B]DO [/B]think Dooku was working for Sideous back during Episode I. Dooku had not been a Jedi for quite a while by the time Episode II.
Somebody had to set all that "droid army" thing and begin all the prep work for the Death Star (probably under construction and weapon testing by Episode III) and keep the diffrent parties working for Sideous from each other's throats.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Jason: Lucas made the "rule of Two" canon when he made Yoda say "always two there are; a Master and an Apprentice" as an answer to Mace Windu's report that there could be no question that the attacker was a Sith. Yoda is obviously reminiscing on Jedi&Sith history, speaking his line in a "that's the way they always operate" kind-of-way.
Palpatine doesn't have to follow it, he can do whatever he wants, but Yoda obviously was taught about the old ways.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Oh dear, you used the 'n-c' word. No good can come of this.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The "rule of two" really does NOT make sense though..... If there are only two Sith (ever) that means the Jedi are horribly inept at killing them and have only ever gotten one at a time. Mabye Yoda meant that Sith only operate in groups of two -Master and Student- untill the apprentice is ready to go out and train his own student and the old Master trains someone new.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Which would make their system exactly the same as the later stages of Jedi training, and therefore hardly worth mentioning, surely?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Unless the Sith live in BFE and only come to the galactic town in pairs. Fuck, I don't know....and I doubt Lucas does either! How could there possibly be only two Sith at a time?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Firstly, there is nothing saying that the Sith have had living representatives in every generation for the 2000 years or ? since the rule of two was founded. The Sith have had hidden temples, sympathizing cultures and of course always the Dark Side (at but arm's reach for any Jedi who falls from faith and/or becomes wicked or too nosy) to help rekindle the ancient threat.
Secondly, there's nothing saying the Sith master and apprentice made a tradition of living under the Jedi's noses at Coruscant for all of that time either, it was an extremely audacious move by Palpatine, very risky, very gambling. No doubt a less force-mighty person would've been found out and strung up by the balls.
As Darth Maul said, "at last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we will have revenge". This was obviously the first outright offensive series of operations to be carried out by the Sith in a very very long time. I haven't read much about the Great Hyperspace War and the Sith Wars (can't wait to play "Knights of the Old Republic" for the PC), but needless to say the Sith were dealt a fatal blow to their existence and all but vanished. The burned hand teaches best. Avoid the soapbox.
Unable as they were to face the Jedi in open combat (public opinion probably was a tad partial to the Jedi anyway), the series of moves that put Palpatine on the throne through clandestine ops was nothing short of brilliant.
Oh, and it was all Jar-Jar's fault, apparently. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I know there are several others on this forum that know more than I do about the whole Jedi/Sith cockamamie, but they seem unwilling to share or something. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It's a board-wide consparicy. I always knew guys like Omega and Psyliam were strong with the darkside but I thought they were just being mean to newbies..... Now I know better.
...but then, who's the aprentice in that duo, eh?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Actually it was more of a *bump* to try and make those guys drop their turnips and mash some keys.
But yours is much better.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It's the old mindtrick, man. Don't read any post that includes the phrae "rethink your life" or you'll find yourself watching Freinds and attending regular church services in middle-class suberbia.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Who's your master? Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I'm mean to newbies?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
You will be. I have forseen it.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Jason, if your only quarrel with the "Rule of Two" is that it puts Jedi Detective skills to shame, that's not much of a counter-argument. They'd be harder to find than if they were 20, not easier.
The Sith probably adopted a strict no-touch policy on Jedi during the organization's most fragile years, focusing on rebuilding alliances and resources, never sticking their necks out and just waiting until they were ready.
If they just stuck to the rim worlds I'd doubt they would be found if they didn't want to. Sith mind cloak and all that.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So you're saying there are more than two Sith in existance at a time? That's what i can't fathom: how are there any Sith at all if there are only two at any given time? Mabye there are several trainees that have not reached full power and are not full Sith while two are causing trouble? I mean, what happens if both Master and Aprentice get killed? Game over? That does'nt make any sense. It's be better if the Sith operate in cells that don't have exact information on each other (in case of capture). Not like we'll ever know for sure.
* * * * ************Spoilers************** It's been released that there is a new villian central to the upcoming movie (probably besides Vader) and that there will be proto-TIE Fighters and part of the movie takes place in or near the construction of the Death star. Highlight the white text: http://www.theforce.net/episode3/index.shtml#21890 Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Jason: "So you're saying there are more than two Sith in existance at a time?"
No, by "the Sith" I meant the two. However, they could surround themselves with aides, slaves and such.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So if they both eat it, the slaves...uh...train themselves to be Sith? That would result in some shoddy Sith though.
Mabye there's a gaggle o' SIth in hybernation sleep or something and a computer de-frosts/ clones a new set as needed?
The way I see it, the Jedi and the Sith are like the Shriners and the Freemasons. When you boil it down, they're both exclusive clubs with secret handshakes and clandestine meetings. Yeah, both are cool in their own way and they like to party but the Jedi have better P.R. and are waaaay more open to the public.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Maybe Jucasta Nu is Sypha Dyas? Admittedly after a sex-change! Although - are "Master Jedi"'s a unisex term? I don't believe we've ever heard "Mistress Jedi". Infact - why have we never had any speaking-roles for Female Jedi!?!?!
Except for old Jucasta Nu.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
That's another thing I hope they clear up in Ep. III, who was Sifo-Dyas? He did exist at one point, maybe Palpatine killed him, went to Kamino himself and used a Sith Mind Trick to make everyone think he looked like Sifo-Dyas.
If you place an order like that I think they'd want to be sure they have a serious client with good credentials...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
All I know is I wanna see Papaltine kil Mace Windu. I'm a Sam Jackson fan but Mace is just a prick. He's pretty damn angry for a Jedi, isint he?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
No, he's been pathologically calm so far, IMO. Jango Fett got his just desserts, and nothing short of a decapitation would've stopped him. ;.)
Funny that Mace held his blade to Jango's throat already at the throne balcony.
Mace Windu is arguably the best swordsman in the galaxy at that point, harnessing the seventh style of lightsaber combat, I strongly suspect he won't be beat in fair play. More than that I won't speculate.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"No, he's been pathologically calm so far, IMO."
Matches his Bad Motherfucker persona to a T, if you ask me. B)
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: All I know is I wanna see Papaltine kil Mace Windu. I'm a Sam Jackson fan but Mace is just a prick.
Crazy Statement Of The Year winner 2003.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
No. Mace is a prick. I'm possibly the only person that does not like that character, but there you go. I just want him dead...is that so wrong?
...and I really want Papaltine to fight: we should see him at his prime and kickin Jedi butt.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I think Palpatine is already a fair bit past his prime by TPM, let alone AOTC.
Of course, so is Yoda, but it's a bit easier to CGI him than Palaptine.
Besides, can Palpatine even use a lightsaber?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Does he even need to use one? He's powerful enough that Yoda and Mace can't sense him from across a table and Count Dooku is his bitch. That speaks to me of a power greater than Yoda's.
The actor that plays Papaltine could certainly use a sabre (if Christopher lee could, anyway) but I'd hope they learned their lesson and avoid the "fast-forward" effects they gave to Yoda in Ep II.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I think in EU at least Palpatine had a couple of sabers in a gallery or something, I seem to remember he and Leia dueled.
Jason: I just don't get why you would want to see Mace "dead". He's the best of them, in many regards. We haven't even seen him in a saber duel, just against some geeky "roger-roger"-droids and Django the Bastard.
He should meet Dooku, that would be an even match.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It's just the attitude he has: he rains on everybody's parade. Mabye he's just too serious and severe for my taste. Mabye you're right: I was REALLY disapointed in the lightsabre fights of Ep. II. I was actually laughing at Yoda in the theatre.
I dig Obi-Wan (and we now he don't die for a while!)and his wit. I dig Yoda (when he's played at the right speed, anyway) because he's wise enough to see the big picture (allright, not the BIG picture). Heck, I even like that green Jedi with the big grin and the tentacles on his head and the Jedi librarian more than Mace.
What the hell happened to Yaddle anyway? mabye Yoda went into fast-forward and fucked her to death....
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: The actor that plays Papaltine could certainly use a sabre (if Christopher lee could, anyway)
Christopher Lee has practise with that sort of thing, swordplay having featured in several of his films. Ian McDiarm-thingy might not have the same experience.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I was REALLY disapointed in the lightsabre fights of Ep. II. I was actually laughing at Yoda in the theatre.
Crazy Statement Of The Year 2003: Runner-up.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Jason, that was unnecessary. Keep it clean, this is a good thread.
I agree Mace is a bit wooden and harsh, but look at the man's responsibilities. In retrosopect, Mace's policy towards baby-Anakin proved correct. He was too old to accept full allegiance to the Jedi and too full of fear and anger from his slave days to become a balanced, neutral Knight.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yes, dear....
quote:I agree Mace is a bit wooden and harsh, but look at the man's responsibilities. In retrosopect, Mace's policy towards baby-Anakin proved correct. He was too old to accept full allegiance to the Jedi and too full of fear and anger from his slave days to become a balanced, neutral Knight.
Mabye he's a psycho because he never got the support he needed. I'm sure the whole Jedi Council was probably kreeping Anikin at arms length (and he already knew they didint want him to be a Jedi, didint he?).
So what the hell did happen to Yaddle? Looks like a LOT of the original Jedi council was replaced in the (less than) ten year between episodes. Mabye theres more frusterated Jedi Masters than just Qui-Gon?
As to the lightsabre scene with Yoda: It's just badly done. Admit it. I was in awe of Yoda catching the darkforce lightning but then it's cartoon time for my favorite character from the original trilogy. Sad. Anyone notice that Aki-Mundi (spelled wrong for certain: the big brained guy) from the Jedi Council was one of those captured by the battledroids in the arena? Time for some remideal lightsaber lessons with those kids, I guess. Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Ki-Adi Mundi.
And I agree on the Yoda/Dooku duel, which makes me pretty unpopular amoung my local action movie junkie friends. I'm one of those who thought when Dooku pulled out his sabre, Yoda should have just dropped a building on him or something...
--Jonah
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: It's just the attitude he has: he rains on everybody's parade. Mabye he's just too serious and severe for my taste. Mabye you're right: I was REALLY disapointed in the lightsabre fights of Ep. II. I was actually laughing at Yoda in the theatre.
What the hell happened to Yaddle anyway? mabye Yoda went into fast-forward and fucked her to death....
You mean Yoda the Hedgehog. It was all so our eyes wouldn't linger on the CGI creation for too long.
Yaddle died between the two movies. It's on starwars.com I think.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yaddle died? Of what? Corrupt file?
I agree that yoda should have just dropped a building on Dooku. Or mabye one of those nice heavy troop transports.
Why could'nt Yoda have just telekinetically yanked the batteries out of Dooku's lightsaber? I guess it could explain why all sabers appear to be diffrent...
Yoda should have pimp-slapped Dooku with Anikin's severed arm. That would have been funny.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Ew.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Why could'nt Yoda have just telekinetically yanked the batteries out of Dooku's lightsaber? I guess it could explain why all sabers appear to be diffrent...
For the same reason that Vadar didn't use his telekenetic powers against Kenobi in ANH. It's assumed that the other person will simply block it. They said as much when Dooku admitted that the battle could only be won with a lightsaber fight.
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: You mean Yoda the Hedgehog. It was all so our eyes wouldn't linger on the CGI creation for too long.
You said that before, and it still makes no sense. The previous 90 minutes were full of long, lingering shots of Yoda (sexy beast that he is). Why would they suddenly try to hide the CGI?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
And they didn't, Yoda's fighting style is a logical choice based on his very low body mass, very strong Force connection and 850 years of training against different opponents, learning to create a leverage when at a disadvantage.
Why jumping, you say? Well, when a waist-high fighter duels a 6'5" opponent, he tends to have a disadvantage in reach. This was alleviated.
He couldn't have had a longer saber because it would've been wrong for his stature, and if they had restricted his movements to grounded footwork his only targets would've been Dooku's feet, thighs and belly, the most easily-guarded parts for a swordsman.
No, the only thing I would've altered in that scene was Frank Oz's voice attitude during the fight. More gruff, focused, enduring exhales instead of Kiai-shouts from Marvin the marsian.
Nothing in the world can beat his saber draw animation, though. ;.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
True. Episode III can be a two hour long piece of Anakin saying "Wohoo!", and I wouldn't care. I forgive him for all his Episode I-III faults, purely for THAT monent.
Yoda.
Brushing aside his cloak.
Pulling his sabre into his hand.
Lighting it.
Fighting pose.
Orgasm now.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Found something interesting about the Sith/Jedi struggle, when browsing through the Ep.II DVD to find other goodies. After Obi-Wan talked with Jango Fett and reported back to the council, Yoda reveals something.
Windu: "I think it is time we informed the senate that our ability to use the force is diminished." Yoda: "Only the Dark Lord of the Sith knows of our weakness; if informed the senate is, multiply, our adversaries will".
Do you think he implied the Dark Lord knows about the weakness he himself instilled in them (diminished awareness and prescience), or some general weakness the Jedi have had a long time against powerful Siths? That he can go to certain depths and pervert the Force to his will and benefit from it in a way the Jedi can't allow themselves to do?
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Dark Force users have always had that advantage over their goodie two-shoe brethern, but this time the Jedi have grown complacent and arrogant... they haven't faced the Sith in four millennia, they're no longer as perceptive to their surroundings, and Windu knows it.
Of course, Palpatine may simply be an exceptionally strong Sith with a few new tricks up his sleeve... either way, the JO is finished, it's too rigid and too proud to admit its own weakness, which will be the Jedi's undoing.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Yoda - even as a CGI creation was relatively motionless - and when he did move he was in his little Rygel chair - floating along.
Make him move realistically - fight etc. would have looked very fake if he was moving at normal human speed. We've only ever seen him move (in CGI) very slowly or sped up like a Benny-Hill chase scene! *cue yakkity sax*
Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote:[QUOTE]Originally posted by AndrewR: You mean Yoda the Hedgehog. It was all so our eyes wouldn't linger on the CGI creation for too long.
You said that before, and it still makes no sense. The previous 90 minutes were full of long, lingering shots of Yoda (sexy beast that he is). Why would they suddenly try to hide the CGI?
Well there is the fact that in one of the DVD documentaries, George (or one of his SFX minions) says that they had to speed Yoda up so that the CGI flaws wouldn't be as apparent.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Maybe not in the double-flips, but in most of the fight he moves normally, as a human fighter would. I just rechecked the scene several times yesterday, it looks more hasty the first time you watch it in the cinema.
If you rewatch and dissect it you see that during the majority of the fight he relies on solid ground footwork. Dooku is actually the one doing most of the saberwork, he's forced to wave that thing all over the place in order to keep up a viable guard against Yoda.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Yoda was walking along in the first scene in Palpatine's Office. And he squinted! Ooooh!
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
It ain't easy being greeeen...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
You mean "not easy is it, green being".
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Actually, I think Yoda would likely say "Not easy being green, it is."
So sorry to nix...er...nitpick.
-MMoM Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
"Around the nixpickers, a perimeter create!"
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
"Anger, Fear, Hate: These are the ways of the Nixpickers. Give into them you must not...."
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