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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,7,10,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:27 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The RotS plot outlines at IMDb reveal two things: it's three years after AotC, and Amidala is pregnant. Assuming the twins are born either during, or shortly after RotS, here's the approximate timeline of the movies, as near as I can figure, with Anakin's birth starting year 0:<br /><br />year 10: TPM<br />year 20: AotC<br />year 23: RotS<br />year 43: ANH<br />year 44: TESB<br />year 45: RotJ<br /><br />So, here's my theory: Lucas inserted Hayden Christensen into the end of RotJ because there's no way 78-year-old Sebastian Shaw could pass for a 45-year-old Anakin Skywalker. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>HerbShrump</b> <br /><small>Member # 1230</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,7,10,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:48 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> My dad at 60 looks better than his dad did at 40. Hard living can age a body <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Topher</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,7,14,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:06 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Also, witness what the Dark Side did to Palpatine. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lee</b> <br /><small>Member # 393</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,7,14,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:50 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ah, but Palpatine has been flossing, exfoliating and cleansing with the Dark Side for years yet he looks healthy enough. That said, we also see him as Sidious having some hot sabre-on-sabre action with someone and he looks a bit ill. So I'm not sure what's going on there.<br /><br />Is that Anakin cloaked & hooded with the yellow eyes? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,7,21,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:56 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Lee:<br /><strong> <br />Is that Anakin cloaked & hooded with the yellow eyes? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sure looks that way...mabye Darth Maul's eyes were a lovely scandinavian blue before he turnned to the Dark Side....<br /><br />Hmmm....premature aging, yellowy teeth and skin, grvelly voice, dependence on respirators to live...<br />The dark Side is the Tobacco Insustry. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>HerbShrump</b> <br /><small>Member # 1230</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,8,18,18,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 08, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:18 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Had they made Anakin an adult in EP 1 instead of a kid, he'd be closer to looking like Sebastian Shaw. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,8,18,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 08, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:31 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> PLus, we'd have been spared that annoying, talentless brat and Lucas' innane scripting of "Yipiee!". <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>PsyLiam</b> <br /><small>Member # 73</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,9,2,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 09, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:13 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> And, like, that Jar Jar is soooooo annoying. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,9,4,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 09, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:04 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Jar Jar is really not sooo bad from astorytelling POV: I recall my mom thought C3PO was annoying (and an actress!) but I like him as a kid.<br />A kid I used to babysit for got hooked on the SW movies because she loved Jar Jar, so there's the reason for <i>that</i>.<br /><br />I just wish I could decipher half of that he says in his "sambo-speak". <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aban Rune</b> <br /><small>Member # 226</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,9,6,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 09, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:03 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> From what I've read, the kids will definitely be born during the course of the movie. But what I've read could be wrong.<br /><br />In the trailer, there's a pic of Palpatine that shows him appearing much younger than he did in Ep 2. This was either a reused shot from Ep 1, or shows that Palp has somehow deageified himself. I think the EU explanation for this is his use of clones. He wears one body out and then jumps into a new, younger version of himself. But it's unclear as to whether he had ever done this during the run of the movies. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Reverend</b> <br /><small>Member # 335</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,9,7,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 09, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:54 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> My personal theory that Palpatine has been using the force to mask his true appearance (Sith eyes and inbred teeth). From what Yoda said in AotC it seams as though they know the Darkside as blinded them somehow, I mean the greatest Jedi Master in the order is sat right across from a Sith Lord and the best he can muster is a suspicious frown.<br /><br />Nice to see they're using the "old" lightsaber hilts again for Kenobi and Skywalker, a nice-tie in to the classic movies. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aban Rune</b> <br /><small>Member # 226</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,9,9,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 09, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:39 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes, I was pleased to see the Ep 4 sabers turn up in this movie. My only saber problems throughout the prequils have been the fact that Obi Wan didn't keep Qui Gon's saber after his death and the reuse of episode 1 sabers for not-so background Jedi in Episode 2.<br /><br />It's certainly possible that Palp is masking his appearance. In the novels, Luke was able to make his face look different using a mind trick. Seeing Palp suddenly reveal himself as Sidious to Mace before slicing and dicing would be pretty cool, actually. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aban Rune</b> <br /><small>Member # 226</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,9,13,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 09, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:13 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> POST TRAILER REVIEW EDIT: Upon looking at the trailer again, the scene where Mace spins around to slash with his lightsaber definitely takes place on Coruscant in what looks like Palp's office. That would seem to suggest that he's fighting either Palpatine or Anakin playing bodyguard. The look on his face kind of says he knows he's about to be ventilated. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,10,2,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 10, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:16 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I think Mace and Yoda laready know/suspect that Palpy is the Sith Lord but confronting him would mean civil war in the Republic.<br /><br />After all, what can they say if they took him out?<br /><br />"Um...y'see....he was <b>EVIL</b> and although <b>YOU</b> VOTED FOR HIM, we know what's best for you (<i>cause of our vaguely defined powers and abilities</i>)...so we sorta...well...<i>killed</i> him.<br />You can vote for someone we <i>approve</i> of now." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,10,6,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 10, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:15 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> They wouldn't tolerate working next to a Sith Lord.<br /><br />Aban Rune: "Yes, I was pleased to see the Ep 4 sabers turn up in this movie."<br /><br />Funny, in the Clone Wars episodes, Anakin has his ANH silver lightsaber with the light-turqoise blade, wheras in AOTC he had a silver proto-Vader saber with a dark blue blade, just like Obi-Wan.<br /><br />But Obi-Wan still has his Qui-Gonnish saber throughout the Clone Wars series, so either he loses his saber in the first half of ROTS (lol) and we see him build the Guinness one, or he just starts the movie with it and no questions asked.<br /><br />I guess it will be the latter, they did it with Mace Windu and tied it up nicely in the Visual Dictionary. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aban Rune</b> <br /><small>Member # 226</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,10,10,7,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 10, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:31 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'd guess that Obi Wan will start Ep 3 off with his Classic Trilogy saber, too. The time that would have to pass during the movie for him to build a new saber wouldn't work too well. Though, it does kind of kill the theory that ObiWan cobbled together his CT saber from parts on Tatooine, thus explaining the relatively clunky look of it.<br /><br />Explaining Anakin's CT saber is no problem. He just built it after losing his proto-Vader one in AotC. ObiWan must have built YET ANOTHER replica of his padawan hilt after losing his second one in AotC, thus its appearance in the Microseries.<br /><br />Are there more Microseries cartoons planned before the release of the movie? I'd think they would have time for another season. If there are, we may yet see Obi Wan lose the Ep.1 style hilt, paving the way for the appearance of the CT hilt in Ep 3. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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