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Not that I think technical details on an upcoming series need spoiler warnings, but never let it be said I spoiled some fan's surprise...
So the NX-01 won't have shields? WTF? One nuke (just a leetle one) and that ship is toast. Even if the hull survives, the crew will be microwaved pizza pops.
I sense a non sequitor. Just because Earth's space technology is still primitive, I'll bet that TPTB will assume the same for all space-going races - so the enemy weapons will be just as weak as ours.
Nonsense!
Why wouldn't the Klingons have been using the same weapons and ships for centuries (some of them sure look old!). Why would their level and rate of development parallel our own? If only one race has pho-torps or phasers, they'll immolate the NX-01.
Dumb idea PTB!
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Regarding phasers and photon torpedoes, just going by the show, they're pretty weak weapons.
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"So the NX-01 won't have shields? WTF? One nuke (just a leetle one) and that ship is toast. Even if the hull survives, the crew will be microwaved pizza pops."
In TWOK, the Enterprise got hit by several phaser beams and one torpedo without shields. It got messed up, but it didn't explode (which it really should have).
Later series too, have several instances of phasers and photorps hitting unshieded ships, and them not getting destroyed.
If 23rd and 24th century weapons aren't enough to destory ships with one hit, then I'm sure 22nd century weapons will be even worse.
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...or not, if the goal of weaponry as time goes on becomes more to disable, as opposed to destroy, enemy ships.
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How can you set a photon torpedo to "disable"? Put low-fat anti-matter in it?
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I just love that part in TUC where the BoP sends that torp at the Ent-A with her shields down, and it just blows right through the saucer, goes in one side and comes straight out the other...
I always find myself nodding and saying to myself or whoever's watching with me:
"Yep. That's what happens when you take a direct torpedo hit with no shields up..."
BTW, in TWOK I don't think the Ent was hit by a photorp w/o any shields. I think the Reliant just fired phasers, until later when the Ent's shields were back online. I always thought it was funny that they mostly only used phasers and not torps, but then again, Khan was only softening them up...
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Frank: I think Star Trek: Generations may have something on antimatter being in the torpedoes. It's on the Enterprise-B bridge as Scotty's at the ops/helm/whatever station trying to come up with a way of escaping the nexus. I'm not totally sure, and my copy of the movie is missing.
About The Wrath of Khan, there is one thing that's bugged me about the first battle scene between the Enterprise and the Reliant. Right after Kirk says, "This is damn peculiar. Yellow Alert!" Saavik begins pressing buttons and orders, "Energize defense shields." So what's going on here?
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At yellow alert the shields go up but the weapons are on cold standby.
Only at red alert do both shields and weapons become hot by proceedure.
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She says "Energizing defense FIELDS." Defense fields are like special forcefields that protect the bridge and other high-priority sections in risky situations. See the display right as/after she says it. They're not quite the same a shields, but they're along similar lines, IIRC.
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"One nuke (just a leetle one) and that ship is toast. Even if the hull survives, the crew will be microwaved pizza pops."
I have to assume the hull is somehow radiation-proof. I don't know how, considering this technology doesn't even exist in the twenty-fourth century, but oh well...
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PsyLiam:'How can you set a photon torpedo to "disable"? Put low-fat anti-matter in it?' Laughed my but off over that. Seriously, while I dont think it has been mentioned in Cannon, its been stated in various tech manuals, games and encyclopedias that a photon torp is a missle type weapon with a matter/anitmatter warhead. As to torps punching right through hulls like a giant bullet, just shows ya that writers will write up anything regardless of the "physics" behind the weapons they use. (like phasers all of a sudden being able to fire at warp speed!?! anyone know how thats possible?) I find it hard to believe that a thin metal case surrounding matter and antimatter kept appart by magnetic fields could survive passing through armour, couple floors, couple ceilings, and finally armour again and remain intact. Shure looked cool though.
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