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Jason Abbadon
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Kick ass episode chock full of ships and tech.
Also, there's this Andorian tactical officer that has to be one of trek's top five babes.
I mean, damn: watch for her in the episode. [Wink]

Now for techie stuff in no particular order:

T'Pol and Hoshi have managed to recreate 30% of the lost database from the ship's archived memory "so far" and they get starcharts from the Andorians.

Andorian sensors are FAR superior to starfleet's and they are able to transmit telemetry directly to the Enterprise's viewscreen.
The Andorian ships can get sharp pics and sensor data from outside the star system!
Them's good sensors. [Eek!]

The Andorian tactical officer notes that Enterprise's weapons are not too disimilar from those on Andorian ships she served on when she first joined their service.
That implies Andorian weapon tech is not more than mabye ten years ahead of Starfleet's and they are able to hold off the Vulcans with it so...
Starflleet must be advancing quite rapidly (possibly why the Vulcans ar so concerned about it).

Andorian antimatter injectors are far superior to Enterprise's and after a heart to heart with Trip, Shran gives Enterprise one.
It will supposedly "help us alot with our engines"...we could see better warp performance mabye?

The Xindi superweapon is considered a "failure" as it can only chop a moon in half.
Archer thinks his Arboreal Xindi pal is responsible for it's poor performance.

Shran is actually a very convincing actor as the captain of an Andorian mining vessel looking for the rare mineral "Archerite".


That's all I can think of just now so I open it up to everyone else to pick apart.

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The same actor that played Weyoun and that Ferengi from the Inquistor's office is good at subterfuge? Could have fooled me [Big Grin]

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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I'm not entirely clear on one thing: Were the Andorians under orders to obtain the weapon by any means necessary from the onset or were they really sent by the Imperial Guard to help Enterprise initially but then received new orders?

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Harry
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Shran was indeed quite an accomplished actor [Smile]

Two things I noticed:
- There was constant talk of "alliances", and forging bridges between Andorians and humans and Andorians and Vulcans. It looks like the producers might be heading of into a "Birth of the Federation" arc someday.

- OTOH, the Andorians don't really have a strong profile yet. We know the Vulcans are logical, the Klingons are honorable and the Breen mysterious, but doesn't seem to be a really Andorian trait yet.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
We know the Vulcans are logical, the Klingons are honorable and the Breen mysterious, but doesn't seem to be a really Andorian trait yet.

Really hot females in skintight leather pants.
That alone gets them federation membership in my universe. [Big Grin]

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Maybe it's the 'shields' that they bring to the Federation.. I can see the birth of the Federation.. Neither the Vulcans nor the Andorians will allow the other to form an allience with Earth, so they make a commonwealth.

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Jeffery Combs (Weyoun, Brunt, Shran, Penk) is an amazing character actor for Star Trek. When the openning Prologue was an image of Shran - i immediately got excited for the episode.

And I agree with Jason!! This ep. rocked.. lots of stuff is revealed, and the sphere-weapon looked great... Lots of tech stuff and when the Andorian ship swoops in and tractors the weapon... i couldn't get the smile off my face...

And a great trend lately is that Mayweather is getting more visibility in recent episodes..

And again we see Archer pushing the envelope by setting the 'distruct' sequence on the weapon and giving an altimatum to Shran...

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quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
- OTOH, the Andorians don't really have a strong profile yet. We know the Vulcans are logical, the Klingons are honorable and the Breen mysterious, but doesn't seem to be a really Andorian trait yet.

According to "Journey To Babel" (TOS) they are "violent and passionate."

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Jason Abbadon
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Great.
A whole planet of ex-girlfreinds then...

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OTOH, the Andorians don't really have a strong profile yet. We know the Vulcans are logical, the Klingons are honorable and the Breen mysterious, but doesn't seem to be a really Andorian trait yet.

The description I've heard is that they have violent tendencies, but try to control them, and that seems to fit. But then, one-note species are stupid anyway. And a species that can only be described as "mysterious" is going to get boring real fast unless you have something compelling to replace the mystery with. Thank goodness DS9 only dealt with them for a few episodes.

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Jason Abbadon
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The Andorians get the royal treatment of species development in the DS9 books.
In the novels, the Andorians have a diffrent fight or flight response than other humanoids: when cornered, hurt or frightened, they turn VERY violent and get the whole adrenal pump going:
They work hard to control that side of their nature.
Andorians also have a few senses humans lack (those antenna arent just for fun) and the new Andorian science officer on DS9 manages to "see" a cloaked Jem'Hadar on the station.
They also have three gender types and marry in pre-arranged triads.
A good read.

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But Data said the marriages required four people...

I always thought the antenna were a type of scent sense. Like you can taste really strong smells on your tongue sometimes, I figured this was the same thing as the antenna like your nose, but different.

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Jason Abbadon
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Uh..my mistake: it IS four (the books dont get it wrong, but I did!).
The "antenna sense" is describes as more like the electrical sense sharks use to sense a fish's location and distress.
Shar (the science officer) keeps sensing something like how we might catch a glimpse f something from the corner of our perpherial vision.
He eventually throws a bowl of food at the cloaked Jemmie while at Quark's....then the fn really starts.

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Lee
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There's a quite hilarious bit when Shran's just been dressed-down by his boss, and his antennae are drooping - then he gets a call from the Bridge about Enterprise and they shoot right up! 8)

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Jason Abbadon
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Yeah...he springs wood when there's intresting news.

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