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This ship was referred to as the vessel which came to haul the Enterprise-E back to spacedock at the end of "Insurrection," but the scene was cut. However, I didn't know until recently that a scene was filmed with Quark aboard the ship, conversing with Picard on the viewscreen. If anyone has seen this cut footage, would you know if the actual ship was shown?
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Where did you hear this? I'd love to see that if it exists...
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No, Quark & the girls were actually on the Ticonderoga while speaking with Picard. Which of course begs the question as to why Starfleet is in the habit of ferrying Ferengi and Dabo girls around. This scene was probably cut for the best.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: No, Quark & the girls were actually on the Ticonderoga while speaking with Picard. Which of course begs the question as to why Starfleet is in the habit of ferrying Ferengi and Dabo girls around. This scene was probably cut for the best.
Much less why Starfleet was ferrying Quark and Dabo girls to a rather sensitive part of space, shortly after a major battle. I somehow doubt that the Ticonderoga was a passenger ship...
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1.) The ship wasn't there to tow the Enterprise anywhere. (The ship was in need of no such assistance at the end of this film. I'm assuming you just got your thought mixed up with Hemingway from Nemesis. ) It was there to facilitate the planet's becoming a Federation protectorate.
2.) According to the revised final-draft script, Quark and his Dabo girls did indeed show up ON the planet. The Ticonderoga was merely mentioned verbally by Worf as having arrived ain orbit. This was all part of the ending sequence with everyone standing/walking around the Ba'ku village. Here's an excerpt from the script:
quote:ANIJ What am I going to do without you?
Picard reacts, slightly surprised that she has anticipated that he has to go.
PICARD These are perilous times for the Federation. I can't abandon it to people who would threaten everything I've spent a lifetime defending.
PICARD (CONT'D) I'm going back to Earth to... slow things down... at the Federation Council.
She nods, she knows...
PICARD But I have three hundred and eighteen days of vacation time coming. I plan on using them.
ANIJ I'll be here.
Worf moves over...
WORF Captain, the Ticonderoga has moved into orbit.
QUARK'S VOICE Worf!
They turn to see a Ferengi (QUARK) approaching in a bathing suit with a beach umbrella and two barely dressed Dabo girls...
WORF What are you doing here, Quark?
QUARK The same thing everyone else in the quadrant is going to be doing here... as soon as I build the greatest spa in the galaxy... (sotto) ... these people don't have any religious thing about casinos do they...?
PICARD There aren't going to be any spas on this planet.
QUARK Do I know you?
PICARD (ignoring the question) This world is about to become a Federation protectorate, which will end any and all attempts at exploitation by people like you.
QUARK Explain to me how five thousand time-share units... right there along the lake... would be 'exploiting' anyone.
PICARD Mister Worf, have this uninvited... offlander and his guests beamed to the Enterprise. We'll deposit them at Deep Space Nine.
WORF Must you, sir?
Worf takes Quark away by the scruff of his beach shirt... his disappointed babes follow ...trailing away --
QUARK You'll hear from my Nagus.
They're gone.
ANIJ Do you really think your mighty Federation would be interested in protecting six hundred people?
PICARD The "mighty" Federation could learn a few things from this village...
He kisses her. The signature humming bird appears, sweeping up in the breeze and hovers briefly in front of them... and as he takes her hand to his cheek...
So no, I don't think the Ticonderoga was ever intended to be shown in the first place.
As to why the ship would have been carrying Quark? Your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps he had a 'contact' on board. (Read as: "Perhaps he bribed someone." ) IMO the movie wouldn't have suffered for having this light moment in there, as it was already past the point where the dramatic conflict had been resolved and things were in a light mood anyway, what with Data & friends tumbling about in the haystacks, etc.
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How did Worf get on the Enterprise in this movie? Was he aboard a runabout traveling from Earth to DS9 from a vacation, right? Could Quark have been reasonably written in to come with Worf in that part of the movie? --- of course this doesn't explain how he was transported down to the surface. Perhaps it would have been better to have the Quark encounter onboard the Enterprise... with him trying to transport down to the surface to inspect his new spa lands?
Of course it will never be...
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quote:Originally posted by J: How did Worf get on the Enterprise in this movie? Was he aboard a runabout traveling from Earth to DS9 from a vacation, right?
Don't know where you got the vacation bit, but the only dialogue from the script pertaining to this is as follows:
quote:PICARD Worf, what the hell are you doing here?
WORF I was at the Manzar colony installing a new defense perimeter when I heard the Enterprise was in this sector...
At this point he is cut off by Riker and Geordi talking about Data.
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"The ship was in need of no such assistance at the end of this film."
Well, unless Nemesis took place in 4178, after the Enterprise managed to get to a Federation outpost without a warp core, I'd say she was.
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Anyone notice what a bad track record the Enterprise-E has for this sort of thing? It seems that by the end of each movie they're smashed up to the point that they really need assistance getting back home. It's arguable in the case of First Contact, but I'd imagine that the warp core wasn't really capable of Warp 9 by the time the Borg were done with it...
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Anyone notice what a bad track record the Enterprise-E has for this sort of thing? It seems that by the end of each movie they're smashed up to the point that they really need assistance getting back home. It's arguable in the case of First Contact, but I'd imagine that the warp core wasn't really capable of Warp 9 by the time the Borg were done with it...
Well, it's not like the TOS crew was any better with their ships. The Enterprise should have been less-than operational at the end of TMP, and we learned about what happened at the end of TVH...
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Someone on TrekBBS once pointed out that Worf never actually called Quark by his name, at least as far as anyone could remember. If that scene didn't get cut, their special relationship would have been broken.
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) It was there to facilitate the planet's becoming a Federation protectorate. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
) IMO the movie wouldn't have suffered for having this light moment in there, as it was already past the point where the dramatic conflict had been resolved and things were in a light mood anyway, what with Data & friends tumbling about in the haystacks, etc.![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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