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In "Highlander: The Series", we see a whole society of Immortals (well, society of sort) ... you've got Duncan MacLeod, Amanda, Methos, Richie, their friends, etcetra ...
And you've still got a lot of badguys for Mac to whack!
Hey ... that rhymes ... Mac to whack ...
Actually, MacLeod rarely kills more than 11 or 13 Immortals per season, with 22 eps average per season ... but even a lot of the eps where he doesn't kill a K'Immie FEATURES a K'Immie!
So how many Immortals are there? Where do they like to live?
I'd put the number at about 3 - 5,000, most living in the colder climates (easier to hide a sword under a long coat)...
------------------ "When they come, kill them. We're not here to make friends." -- Connor
Juan Sanchez Filla Loboz Ramirez (D)- Kurgan Kurgan (D) - CM Sundra Kastagir (D) - Kurgan Iman Fasil (D) - CM Wasilycz (D) - Kurgan Connor MacLeod (D) - Duncan MacLeod (DM) Kane (D) - CM Kane Henchman I (D) - Kane Kane Henchman II (D)- CM Nakano (D) - Kane
Highlander II Immies: (listed seperately, TPTB have said Highlander II is not cannon)
Katana (D)- CM Ugly Flying Dude 1 (D) - CM Ugly Flying Dude 2 (D) - CM
Highlander: The Series & Highlander: The Raven Immies:
Pompeii Circa-79 ad Immortal (?) Pompeii Circa-79 ad Immortal #2 (?) Duncan MacLeod Slan Quince (D) - DM Lucas Desiree (D) - Howard Crowley Howard Crowley (D) - DM Kiem Sun Felicia Martins Devereux (D) - Felicia Martins Caleb Cole (D) - DM Carl The Hermit (D) - Caleb Cole Walter Reinhardt (D) - DM Alexei Voshin (D) - DM Andrew Ballin (D) - DM Marcus Korolus (D) - DM (FB) Grayson (D)- DM Darius (D)- James Horton (mortal renegade Watcher) Kuyler (D)- DM Xavier St. Cloud (D) - DM Ursa Grace Chandler Carlo Sendaro (D) - DM Amanda Montrose/Deverieux Zachary Blaine (D) - Amanda Alfred Cahill (D) - DM Gabriel Piton (D) - DM Col. Everett Ballian Hugh Fitzcairn (D)- Kalas Gregor Powers Michael Moore/Quenten Barnes (D) - DM James (D)- Renegade Watcher Richie Ryan (D)- DM Annie Devlin Carl Robinson Anthony Gallen (D) - DM Thomas Sullivan (D)- DM Mako (D)- RR Anton LeGris (D)- Xavier St. Cloud Jason Talbot (D)- Xavier St. Cloud Michel De Bourgogne (D)- DM Nicholas Ward (D)- DM Arthur Drake/Drakov (D)- DM Nefertiri (D)- DM Marcus Constantine (yes, THAT Marcus Constantine!) Luther (D)- DM Rebecca Horne (D)- Luther Martin Hyde (D)- DM Segur (D) - Martin Hyde Charles Browning of York (?) Michael Kent (D)- DM Kern (D)- DM Paul Karros (D) - DM - this guy knew Spartacus! John Durgan (D)- DM Axel Whittaker (D)- DM Sharon (D)- Axel Whittaker Michelle Webster Brion Cullen (D)- DM Zoltan Laszlo Kenny Dallman Ross (D)- Kenny Frank Brody (D)- Kenny FB Sean The Drummer Boy (D) - Unknown David Keogh Garrick (D)- DM Benny Carbassa Lyman Kerlow (D)- DM Peter Matlin (D)- DM Michael Christian (D)- DM May-Ling Shen (D) Michael Cristian Trent (D) - Michael Christian John Kirin/Cage Bro. Paul (D) - Kalas Bro. Timon (D) - Kalas FB Kalas (D)- DM Methos Ceirdwyn Kristov (D)- RR Ernst Daimler (D) - DM Lucas Kagan (D) - DM Kagan's Teacher (D) - DM FB Hamza El Kahir (D)- Xavier St. Cloud FB Unknown Paris Immortal (D)- Kalas Peter Hale (D) - Kalas FB
Okay, now I'm continuing on the liner notes for my "Highlander" video collection, so I might miss one or two ... I've got Seas. IV and V, and Raven ... but not Seas. VI (blech!)
Kanwulf (D)- DM Andrew Cord (D)- DM Mikey (D)- RR Tyler King (D)- DM Unamed Immortal (D)- Tyler King Peter Kanis (D)- DM Kamir (D)- DM Kristin (D)- Methos Walter Graham Claudia Jardin Kit O'Brady Terence Kincaid (D)- DM Col. Simon Killian (D) - DM Paul Kinman (D)- DM Bryce Korland (D)- Jim Coltec Unamed Immortal (D)- Jim Coltec Jim Coltec (D)- DM Sean Burns (D)- DM Jakob Galati (D)- Watchers (DM recieves Quickening) Irena Galati (D)- Renegade Watcher James Horton, Kassim Danny Cimoli (D)- Unamed Vegas Immortal Unamed Vegas Immortal Damon Case (D)- DM FB Student of MacLeod's (D)- Damon Case Warren Cochrane Andrew Donnelly (D) - Warren Cochrane Morgan D'Estaing (D)- DM Robert de Valicourt Gina de Valicourt Cassandra, Witch of the Donan Woods Roland Kantos (D)- DM Grahame Ashe (D) - Haresh Clay - Ramirez's teacher! Carter Wellan (D)- RR Haresh Clay (D)- DM Mathew McCormick Johnny K (D)- DM Terence Coventry Cory Raines Alec Hill (D) - RR Gerard Kragen (D)- DM Derek Ancient South American Immortal (D) - Gavriel Lorca Gavriel Lorca (D)- DM New Immie #1 (D)- Gavriel Lorca New Immie #2 The Messenger/Methos Imposter (D)- William Culbraith William Culbraith (D)- RR Ingrid Henning (D)- DM Koren/Kronos (D)- DM Silas (D)- Methos Caspian/Caspari (D) - DM Otavio Consone (D)- DM Steven Keane Lord Byron (D) - DM - yes, *that* Lord Byron Hans Kershner (D)- Lord Byron FB Basil Morgan Mario Cardoza (D)- Amanda William Kenworthy (D)- killed by pre-Immie Nick Wolfe Stefan Collier (D)- Amanda Simon Clark (D)- Amanda Talia Bauer (D)- Amanda Jade Derrik Markham (D)- Amanda Liam Riley Jeremy Dexter Vladimir Raenkov (D)- Amanda Dr. Julian Heller (D)- Amanda Sean Sean's Female Friend Sean's Male Friend Even Peyton (D)- Amanda John Ray Fielding Wilson Geary (D)- Amanda Marco (D)- Wilson Geary Victor Hansen Korda (D)- Amanda Korda's Female Ally (D)- Amanda Frank Brennan (D) - Amanda Nick Wolfe Kell (D)- DM Faith (D)- Kell Jin (D) - Kell Ancient #1 - # 11(D) - Kell, Kell, Kell, etc. Cracker Bob (D) - Kell - anyone else know of any of the other "Endgame" Immies? These were all I could find out ...
I also have *no* info for Immies from Seas. VI ... so ... here's what I've got!
Okay, I added who killed whom ... DM is Duncan MacLeod, CM is Connor MacLeod, RR is Richie Ryan ... FB means it happened in a flashback.
Top Immortal Warriors:
kills only from TV episodes or movies where we actually *see* the Quickening, or hear direct reference to another Immortal killed
Duncan MacLeod: 61 kills (not including Seas. VI kills and novel !!canon!! kills)
Jacob Kell: 14 kills
Amanda (Amanda?!): 13 kills
Connor MacLeod: 7 kills (well, we didn't see him much...)
Richie Ryan: 6 kills
Kalas: 5 kills
Xavier St. Cloud: 3 kills
Kurgan: 3 kills
[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited November 15, 2000).]
[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited November 15, 2000).]
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Then there's General Katana and his two ratfaced boys in the future. And Van Peebles and his mongol-pals. And all those guys from the last movie, the new one. There's some polish guy you only saw a picture of in the first movie when Connor was interrogated, is he up there?
Everyone should be listed, simply because they are immortal. Squabbles about canonity is irrelevant in that regard.
------------------ And keep your foot off that blasted samoflanche!
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The "Endgame" Immies are at the bottom, starting with Kell. There were a LOT!
You've got Kell, Fain, Jin ... 11 Ancient Immortals who were with Connor at Sanctuary ... Cracker Bob is the only one of Kell's other henchman I got the name for, but there at least two or three others ...
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Dude, you need to get on the phone with your lawyer. "There can be only one"? That's the most blatent case of false advertising since Uncle Heinrich's Non-Flammable Zeppelin Gas.
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Ok, now I'm gonna go deeper. Most of the baddies we've seen have been forced to cope with their immortality by themselves. Connor is an exception. I never saw the Duncan-pilot so I don't know if he had a mentor. Don't know about Amanda either.
But Ramirez, samaritan as he was, how could he know that he looked for Connor particulary? ("-Vat do you want? -You!") Did he always go around and teach newbies the rules and ways, like some Kenobi?? And the Kurgan! How could he have known about Connor AND pointed him out to the Frasiers before Connor's gift even had manifested?? It's all so organized, I don't get it.
And who's Davis and Panzer?
------------------ And keep your foot off that blasted samoflanche!
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Connor *was* Duncan's mentor. He found Duncan two years after Duncan became Immortal (poor Mac -- he thought he was the devil)
There are Immortals, like Ramirez (and Connor), who teach other Immies how to fight and survive. They do this because they do not care if they themselves survive, as long as a Good Immortal wins the Prize and not an evil one.
A good example is Rebecca Horne, whose whole existance (well, at least from the 9th century and on) was based on teaching new Immortals how to survive and fight. She taught one of them (Luther) too well, because he came back and killed her.
Older Immortals can "sense" a pre-Immortal. This is why MacLeod "adopted" Richie in a sense ... he knew that Richie would become an Immortal.
Now, how Kurgan knew who Connor was before they met, I don't know ... but older Immies have been known to have strange powers, and maybe Kurgan was psychic (for example, Roland Kantos had the *voice* and Cassandra had *prophecy*). A more reasonable explanation is that Kurgan either passed through the Glenfinnen a few years earlier and "sensed" pre-Immie Connor (a sense of honor perhaps kept Kurgan from killing Connor then), or another Immortal (a student, a friend) of Kurgan's sensed Connor and told Kurgan about him.
Or, an Immie told Ramirez about a Scottish pre-Immie named Connor MacLeod, and somehow Kurgan found out and went to Scotland to take MacLeod's Quickening and find Ramirez (the two have a LONG past with each other, in case you hadn't noticed).
This isn't all that unexpected: Duncan encounters an Immortal hermit who was waited in a cave for six hundred years to meet Duncan, for the sole purpose of giving Duncan his head to help in the "upcoming battle" against Ahriman (a Persian demon).
Also, Cassandra was in the Donan Woods near Glenfinnen for a century or two, waiting for the Immortal child born on the winter solstace, who would in time, kill the Immortal Roland Kantos.
Panzer/Davis are the the Executive Producers of Highlander and The Series. They are in fact, what Gene Roddenberry and Michael Piller and Rick Berman etc. are to Star Trek.
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