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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

After months of intense though, I have decided that our current method of determining your constellation for the purposes of a Horoscope is inadequate. Not only does it rely entirely on chronological age and not the other physical characteristics that determine your sign in the stars, but it also discriminates against constellations not lucky enough to be on the elliptic.

This decided, today I set out to remedy this problem. The resulting mathematical formulae will help you find your true constellation. All you need is a calculator capable of operating in Hexadecimal mode and converting between Hex and standard bas 10 (Dex). The Calculator on Windows should do nicely, though a TI-80something is nice because you can keep track of this monster going in.

To start, we need your birthday... not your usual birthday, however, but it "decimalized" into an eight-digit number without any of this Babylonian 12-month nonsense. The quickest way to find this is:

Take your Birthday (local time) and write as YYYY/MM/DD, then feed it into the following equation:
[10000*(four digit year)]+[844.93*(month - 1)]+[27.76*(date)]

Round to the nearest whole number. I know all the brackets are unneccessary, but just to be sure for all those Mac users out there who are a bit light on the grey matter. Using the above equation, someone born today would have a "decimalized birthday" of 19995736. (looks like a bastardization of a UIN and a stardate, if you ask me).

Now comes the neat part. Convert this number to Hex. I think everyone here will get a resulting number with seven letters and numbers, the first two digits being "12". If you don't have this, you've screwed up somewhere or were not born between 1887 and 1992. (You'd be 11 or 13, then, respectively). Of course, all the mathematics of a Horoscope stops here. But everyone knows, the stars care about more than simple days and nights. In order to give their wholly accurate view on your life, you must give the calculator some more info about you.

Check that your calculator is in Hex mode now

Now we start a little personal quiz of sorts. Add the correct response onto your current hex number as you go from question to question. From these numbers the stars will learn a more accurate picture of you than your birthdate alone.

Your sex: add 'A' if you're male and 'F' if you're female

Your blood type, omitting Rhesus classification (Breen may skip this one): add 'A' if it's A, 'B" if it's B, 'AB" if AB, and 0 (zero) if O.

Eye Color... add 'A' if very dark brown ("black"), 'B' if medium brown, 'C' if hazel or a distict green, 'D' if grey or a bluish green, 'E' if blue.

Hair Color... add 'A' if Black or near black, 'B' if medium brown, 'C' if sandy brown or dark blonde, 'D' if blonde or lighter.

Location of Birth... add '1' if Africa, '2' if Asia Minor/Arabia, '3' if Central Asia (India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and all the "stans"), '4' if SE Asia, '5' if Australia and Oceanian Isles, '6' if South America, '7' if Central America and the Caribbean, '8' if North America, '9' if in Europe (inc. Russia E of Urals) and '0' if none of the above.

Add the number of older siblings that were born to your parents, whether living or dead now. (Don't count infant mortalities)

Add your mother's age when you born.

Add your father's age when you were born.

Punch equals... you'll get a new hex number. This puppy will tell all about your place in the cosmos. Write it down somewhere. Now you have to begin the process of repeatedly adding digits together and then adding the digits of the answer etc. until you have one final answer. We'll start with the direction of your new constellation.

Check that your calculator is still in Hex mode now

In the highly unlikely even that you have no letters in the answer, use A and B, OK?

Anyway, clear the screen and add up all the letters that was in the last number. Keep on adding the digits of the result together until you have one single digit. Convert the digit to Dec and write it down somewhere. We'll call it "X".

Put your calculator back into standard Decimal mode now

Add up all the numerical digits that were in that hex number you got after finishing the questions. Again, keep on adding the digits of the result together until you have one single digit, then write it down somewhere. We'll call it "Y"

Now the grand finale. Get your hands on a complete starmap (you know, the ones with the two circles). Most Atlases have one, and I'm sure someone will point one out on the internet shortly, anyway. The Cardinal direction of your constellation (ie, it's value from 0 to 23h RA) is can be calculated as (2X - 9) � 1 h. The Elevation is (20Y - 100) � 5. (A negative elevation indicates, the southern hemisphere)

So, if you're anywhere as nutty as me, go ahead and try it. I'm an Aquila now, just so you know.

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[This message has been edited by The_Tom (edited July 27, 1999).]

Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :

I don't have time for this. I'll stick with the Capricorn. Thanks anyway.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Lupus. Interesting. Complicated, but interesting.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

*raises both eyebrows*

Uhm... yeah...

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

Anybody know how the heck I'm supposed to convert my birthday to Hex if I don't have a scientific calculator??? I was never able to afford one (Got a B in Calculus1 and a B+ in Calc 2 without, mind you)
Or if someone can convert 19773796 to Hex for me, I'm just curious.

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

19773796 = 12DB964

Remind me to do this when I have free time. Like, next year.

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

Okay, so I did the rest in my head. X is either 25 or 7 depending on what the instructions mean. I'm not sure where you would need Y in your calculations, but my Y is either 15 or 6. Am I just lost or does this make any sense???

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

Right......... And someone has alot of time on thier hands, don't they?

Seriously, you don't have to do all that to get an accurate picture of your personality based on the stars. What you need is a natal birth chart, and an interpretation program. Preferably, a reliable one. Or you can just give me your birthdate and the time and place you were born and I can do the whole process for you.

See, what people forget is that it's not only your sun sign .... Aries, Taurus, and so on .... it's also where every single OTHER planet was when you were born that makes you who you are.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

You need Y to find the declination of your constellation.

I'm either in the tail end of Hydra or Corvus. I'm not sure which.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

I got 14 for X and 21 for Y...where do I go from there? I do have the proper star chart.

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Posted by RW (Member # 27) on :

Maths! Run!

BTW what's the English name for that ram thingy? Aries? Well, that's what I am. I just don't know how astrology could have kept mankind fascinated by it for so long. One of the greatest mysteries in life one could say. Hm. *smokes pipe, fails to see the clue. Doctor Watson.)

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

RW is an Aries? .. Well that explains THAT!

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

*notices why someone might get confused* Typo, I think, Tom. You used X in the equation for the declination.

Frank: You can't get a two-digit number for Y. Add them together; it's three. And that puts you in Corona Australis, if you were wondering.

Saiyanman: Your numbers would put you in Taurus.

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

That is my normal astro-sign. That's a wicked coincidence.

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

Okay, Jubilee, May 15th 1977. Hastings MI. Where would that put me???

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Corona Australis? Is that a constellation?

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

Didn't I see something about the wobble in Earth's rotation making all this moot?

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

OMG, Tim's right....

*fixes*

Seriously, this is just an exercise in creating the most insane number possible then somehow converting it into two directions. I'm really not this weird... well, there was that incident involving the rubber duck, but let's forget that...

BTW, I still say this is as or more accurate than any other Horoscope.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

People, people, didn't you know that little calculator that COMES WITH WINDOWS does hexes?

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

I don't have a calculator with a window.

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