Tropical storm Epsilon has now formed. When does the season end and how many more letters do you think will they get through?
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
The AP reports that the storm season ends Wednesday, 30 November 2005.
The Associated Press Wednesday, November 30, 2005; 4:37 AM
MIAMI -- The Atlantic hurricane season ends Wednesday, but Tropical Storm Epsilon could still cause dangerous surf conditions in Bermuda, forecasters said.
Epsilon, the 26th named storm of the busiest hurricane season on record, formed Tuesday in the central Atlantic. It was not expected to hit Bermuda or any other land, according to forecasters at the National Hurricane Center in Miami.
At 4 a.m. EST, Epsilon had top sustained winds of near 50 mph. It could strengthen over warm ocean waters before hitting cooler waters that should cause it to weaken, forecasters said. Surf conditions in Bermuda could become dangerous during the next few days, they said.
It was centered about 725 miles east of Bermuda and about 1,520 miles west of the Azores Islands. It was moving west at about 7 mph.
The Atlantic hurricane season lasts for six months.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
At this point, I would think that the weather service is reevaluating their naming system. As it stands now, they have sets of names they use, and if a large enough hurricane occurs (like Katrina), that name is retired. Once they use up all those names and get into the Greek letters, those can't really be retired. I'm not expecting to see another storm season like this for a while, but obviously it can happen.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I disagree. With the current state of the world environment added to the fact that the December earthquake and subsequent tsunami's changed the axial tilt of the earth slightly. Next years storm season will be just as bad if not worse. But that's just my opinion. I guess we'll have to wait a year to see. Maybe by then New Orleans will be back on track just in time for hurricane Flare to wipe it off the face of the earth.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Andie typed:
quote:When does the season end and how many more letters do you think will they get through?
Yes, how many more storms does it take, Andie, before it becomes wrong? Hmm? A thousand, fifty thousand, a million?
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:December earthquake and subsequent tsunami's changed the axial tilt of the earth slightly
Um... how does that work? Conservation of momentum is rather strict, y'know.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
The axial tilt changed not. Wobbled, the Earth did.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
As Jay said, the hurricane season ends today for the Atlantic basin. Something that should be pointed out is that the activity of hurricane seasons goes through a cycle of periods of high activity and periods of low activity with the periods running about 30 to 40 years. The last most active hurricane season prior to this one was in 1933, which was in the middle of a period of high activity. That period also gave us the the 1935 Labor Day Hurricane, which is the most powerful hurricane on record to make landfall in the US and the third most intense Atlantic storm ever. We're in the middle of a high activity period right now, and we have been for a while. 1995 is the third most active hurricane season on record for the Atlantic. This season has been truly horrendous, there's no mistake about that.
quote:As it stands now, they have sets of names they use, and if a large enough hurricane occurs (like Katrina), that name is retired. Once they use up all those names and get into the Greek letters, those can't really be retired.
I'm not sure I'm understanding you. When a name is retired from the hurricane name list, another name with the same letter and same gender is inserted into that name's spot on the rotation. As long as there are 500-page baby name books, I doubt we'll run out of names to call these storms.
For example, Hurricane Alicia hit Houston in 1983 and was retired from the name list. Allison took it's place and was used in 1989 and 1995 before being retired in 2001 after hitting Houston again. Allison's name has been replaced with Andrea, which will first pop up in 2007 (time to start a betting pool to see if Houston is the reason Andrea gets retired).
If anything, the NHC ought to reconsider using names starting with either Q, U, X, Y, or Z to the name list. In 1985, the North Pacific naming scheme added names starting with X, Y, and Z to its list. It still doesn't Q and U, though.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I think you missed the point. The Greek-letter names can't be replaced. If someday Hurricane Theta wipes Miami off the map, or something, how can they retire the name? What will come between Hurricanes Eta and Iota in the future?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
But the naming system is both relatively new and totally arbitrary. I'm sure we'll all be able to assign names to the greenhouse superstorms that kill us.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim: Andie typed:
quote:When does the season end and how many more letters do you think will they get through?
Yes, how many more storms does it take, Andie, before it becomes wrong? Hmm? A thousand, fifty thousand, a million?
LOL! What was that from?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
"Oh it's sooo lonely being the only android in the village." Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Having actually weathered these storms, I say we just call them by their local names " You gotta be fucking kidding me" or "not another fucking hurricane!"....or just "fucking hurricane" for short.
Really, this shitty season has cost me over $1000 in lost wages, and a week with no power (three daysf which we had no water either). And a 19% electricity rate increase next year...
Still, I'm one of the lucky ones- I know people that literally lost their home and all their furniture, also many people that had no power for a month. That's nothing compared to the poor folks in New Orleans, of course- I cant even imagine their losses.
Of course, there are still shills in the government that declare that global warming is not really happening anf if it is, it's a strictly natural phenomena- certainly not the fault of the heavy industry that funds campaigns. None of these "scientists" actually live in Florida, of course.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Of course they don't. They may be liars, but they're not dumb.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: I think you missed the point. The Greek-letter names can't be replaced. If someday Hurricane Theta wipes Miami off the map, or something, how can they retire the name? What will come between Hurricanes Eta and Iota in the future?
And that's why I said the NHC ought to reconsider using names starting with the letter Q, U, X, Y, or Z like whatever authority in charge of the North Pacific basin did when they added X, Y, and Z back to their line-up.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Topher: The axial tilt changed not. Wobbled, the Earth did.
What I meant. That was. For my mistake. Please forgive. And sound alot like Grover on Sesame Street I do. Hmmm...
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
You of all people should recognize a Yoda-ism.
Global warming this, global warming that, blah blah blah. Did y'all know that during the previous interglacial the average global temperature was higher than it is now? Something to think about.
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
Much too much of global warming theory comes from computer models. In my experience, computer models crap out when trying to predict air flow over a wing, let alone trying to predict the behavior of a planet's atmosphere. Additionally, the changes in temperature that are supposedly due to global warming are so ridiculously small compared to the temperature fluctuations that nature itself produces over time that it's impossible to determine with any certainty how much, if any, of the variation is caused by humanity.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Mabye it's a desperate scam by the science community to, you know, stop the industrilized nations from destroying the planet.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
A friendly moderator note: I consulted the oracle and she told me a thread arguing about the existence of climate change would rapidly become heated (the oracle attends an open mike night every other week, and frankly it's embarrassing for all concerned) and therefore be better suited to the Flameboard. So perhaps a spinoff?
Posted by Toadkiller (Member # 425) on :
In a related note - they took away the pile of Katrina debris from my front yard this morning!
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: A friendly moderator note: I consulted the oracle and she told me...
Hey, mine if I borrow the oracle for a while? I've got some questions to ask it.
I promise to give you twenty percent of all lottery winnings I earn.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Like all those "Interrogation of..." threads, this hurricane season is taking forever to die.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Topher: You of all people should recognize a Yoda-ism.
I know it's a Yoda-ism, i was referring to the Star Wars Sunscreen song.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
You took twenty-nine days to create a comeback, and that is the best you could do?
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
wow, 29 days, meh, i didn't bother looking at this thread since then.
Posted by tricky (Member # 1402) on :
Actually I though the US govenment was now admitting that global warming was happening. Not that they are commting to any reductions or timescales on anything...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Zeta is spinning peacefully away from land as we speak.
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