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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Okay, what's with all this Canadian nationalism lately? I mean, I'm all for nationalism, but sometimes it seems a bit extreme. Twice this week I've seen Canadians complain about being called American, even though they live in North America. And it's not like there's much difference between Canada and the US, beyond funny accents, eh? Both were founded by England. Both are predominantly English-speaking (sure, there's some French-speakers, but no more than Spanish-speaking people in the US). The level of technology and culture is similar. And both, uh, share a common border (okay, fine, that's stretching it a bit). Doesn't Canada even rely on the US military for protection? If there's a war tomorrow, I'd like like to see the Canadians go, "No, we don't need your help, US, we're independent, we are!" How about the US says, "Oh, go away. You burnt down the White House!"?

(I don't actually have anything against Canada or it's citizens. I just felt it was time someone threw them on the grill.)

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Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :

Actually Canadian Armed Forces do deploy to regions (some of them Hot Spots) that interest Canada.

Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

You call this a roasting? I thought it was going to be about that Sabres game! Now THAT was a roasting for the Canadians....

heheheh...

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Posted by monkeyboy on :

easy on the similair culture thing.
Everyone is different. Attiudes are different.
Just look at the gun issue, jail,mentatlity of the people and their view on the,selves. totally different

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Cargile: Yes, but the Canadian military is really small, especially for its land area.

monkeyboy: The political views of Canadians are present in the US, just not prevalent. They're not that different anyway.

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Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

I fear my perception of Canada has been heavily influenced by "Due South".......

And why the hell shouldn't they resent being called American?

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

Everyone has their own culture, and what if it's similar? They're proud of being Canadians, so let them be. I am a Pakistani living here in England, and I consider myself to be a British Pakistani. I will never deny that part of my heritage, and no-one should be held accountable for honouring or acknowledging their own background.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Okay, I want in on the roasting!

I AM NO LESS CANADIAN THAN ANYONE ELSE HERE, NO MATTER WHAT SOMEONE MAY SAY.

There. I've had enough of that, being called less of a Canadian!

No! Due South is evil!

Very small, yes. U.S. dependant, more than the U.S. depends on itself!

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

COCO POPS!

Ahem, sorry.

And Monty's just bitter because he probably gets called English instead of British or Scottish.

Which isn't a problem for me.

Except for the American who once thought I was Irish. The blooming cheak of it all m'lad. Ooh, she stole me lucky charms she did.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I was talking to a friend of mine the other day, and the topic drifted to Quebec and such, and how vehement some Canadians are becoming about their nationality and sovreignty. "You'd almost think they were from the US," she said.

Which fits, when I listen to talk radio and such and hear people moaning about how we're "giving up sovreignty" to the UN and NATO and such. (I say "and such" a lot, don't I?) And I wonder what they would have said if they were present at the Constitutional Convention, when the original States of the US gave up sovreignty to form the US. How far down does nationalism have to go before it becomes stupid? Probably where it is in Yugoslavia.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

*straps on flamethrower*

*Roasts both Frank and Jeff*

Ok guys, how would you like it? Medium Rare? Well done? Charcoal Burned?

Jeff: We'll be back next year. And we'll be coming with a vengeance.

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Posted by Coddman (Member # 10) on :

*walks in all mean-faced* *takes out a beefy arsenal of weapons and means o'mass destruction* *blows all the Canaduuh-Bashers into little kibbles and then kicks the kibbles out the airlock* How about that, eh!? >:-) Die.

Americans. They support the death penalty. They like the heat. They still haven't switched over to the metric system like everyone else. They think they're the kings of the planet, regardless if they are or not. They still use 1 and 2 dollar bills. They supported slavery. They are all rich, live in big houses with two cars and 10 pets, they are the world's enemy right now, and come July 14 1999, they will all die. Gee. Sucks to be you.....eh? Hehehe.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

I did not know the U.S. had two-dollar bills. Maybe I'm misinformed...

Americans are people from the Americas.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

*thinks of another thing* And I thought only about half the U.S. states have the death penalty...

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, I don't like the death penalty, or heat, and I do like the metric system. But everything else you said is true. Heh heh heh.

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Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :

I really like "Due South"!

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Posted by Simon on :

90% of being a Canadian is not being an American. We define ourselves by how we are different from the US, and thus calling us Americans makes it seem like we have no reason to be exsiting as a seperate nation.

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

The thing is, why does Canada need to be a separate nation? Is it really that different?

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

FG: Hell yeah. You should see what we do to the American students up here at school who think Toronto is near Edmonton. Trust me, the differences between Canadians and Americans are far greater then one would think. Knowledge about things outside one's homecountry is the big giveaway. Arrogance is another.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, I meet both qualifications (especially in the second area), as do many people I know...

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Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :

"My fellow Americans..."

American usually just applies to citizens of the U.S.. I have never been called an 'United Statian'

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Looks at Coddman's List.

1) Not only do I support it, I enforce it.
2) Heat is good. Girls in shorts. Nuff said.
3) I like Metric.
4) When you've got it, flaunt it!
5) 1 dollar bills fit in my wallet better than coins. The S.B. Anthony dollar flopped 'cause it was the size of a quarter - blame idiots at Treasury. Two-dollar bills are rarely used, but still accepted.
6) Not my state, not my family.
7) I am poor, live in someone else's house, have a car which is falling apart, and am owned by a cat.
8) I'm not the worst enemy of the whole world, just the Fundies
9) Come July 14, I will be using Century XX as toilet paper. I won't die. If all the things I've been through and done haven't killed me, I'm damned well near-immortal anyway.

Besides, you can't shoot Canada-bashers with guns. Canukistanis can't have guns. They're not allowed. Might shoot a moose, eh?

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

Since I work at Six Flags Darien Lake, in Western NY, I have a lot of contact with Canadians...

Many people have said that "Canadians are much more polite than the Americans."

Well, let me tell you, there are polite Canadians, and rude ones too, just as the US has rude and polite people. You Canadians are more like us than you'd like to admit.

BTW, does Canada, specifically the Toronto/Niagara Falls region have a problem with Pakistani? I keep running into Canadians who seem to not like em...

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

OK, now I'm intrigued. Are there Pakistani haters down there, and are their reasons any different from the ones propagated by the extreme right?

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

I doubt you will find a statistically significant number of Americans who have anything against Pakistanis because they (or their ancestors) are from Pakistan. You'd be hard-pressed to find Americans who could find Pakistan on a map without an index, for that matter.

On the other hand, I fear that you may find a few Americans who would hate Pakistanis because they're "furriners". Of course, many of these same people believe that the native Americans ought to go back where they came from.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

You wouldn't be called a United Statian. U.S. citizen would be a proper, accepted, and much less confusing, term.

Frank, to suggest that one's nationality is not important and that one be completely assimilated is not a wise thing to do.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Nationality is important, yes. It's just that Canadians are so similar to US citizens (to borrow a term

), I don't see why they complain when the two aren't distinguished from each other.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

*Wonders what effect Nationalism has on stereotyping*

Does strongly identifying yourself with a certain group of people mean defaulting to being identified with the stereotypes about that group?

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Posted by Simon on :

Frank: Why we complain is that we are the only people who do not recognize that we are almost indistinguishable from Amercians. If you ask many Canadians whether, as a soceity, we are closer to the Americans or the British they will say the British.

On disliking foreingners:
A few years ago a study was done asking people's opinions on the effect Wissan-Americans had on the US. Almost a third of those polled said that they though the invented ethnic group was having a negative effect on the US.

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Fine, what makes Canada so different, then?

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Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :

You might be a red neck if you know what a Furriner is. LMAO!!

I don't want to offend here, but it needs saying. The biggest difference between US and THEM is:
Their Queen is in a castle, ours are in Bars.

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Posted by Jedi Weyoun (Member # 110) on :

*glares* hmmmmmmmmmmm

*decides not to even get STARTED*

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Why? Canadians are generally held in higher regard than U.S. citizens overseas. Now, we take you back to the pretty-much-government-wide U.S. superiority complex, everyone...

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Posted by Simon on :

Frank: there are a number of fairly deep differences. For example the number one issue in the recent Ontario election was preserving universal medicare. Now in the US there is still no medicare and many people seem not to want it. There are other examples, we have twice been ruled by leaders who were at one point communists, and blacklisted by the CIA. We have never lost a war, and we sacrificed more for longer during both world wars, but that is rarely mentioned.

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Of course, if a canadian walked into an English pub, he'd get a completly different reaction to an American.

An American would have the crap beat out of him. The Canadian would be bought drinks and everyone would laugh at how annoying Americans are.

Of course, if you go to Scotland, you'd get beat up just for having hair. Or not having hair. They don't need an excuse.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Simon: Not so. Pretty much the entire Democratic party supports nationwide medical care. The others are minor differences.

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Posted by Warped1701 (Member # 40) on :

Simon: Canada may have sacrificed longer in the World War's, because that's of their own choosing. But more? More what? Materials, supplies, or people? The US built the more war machines for both wars. We may not have sent more supplies in WWI, but in WWII, we gave the British Lend-Lease supplies. Weapons, ships, food, oil, everything needed to fight a war. And sacrifices, let me name a few...The Phillipines, Guadalcanal, Tinian, Okinawa, Saipan, those are some pretty damn big sacrafices there. Not to mention the lives wasted in WWI trench warfare, and gas attacks.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

There are few things more dangerous than fundamentalism. That includes any form of unquestioning devotion, such as nationalism. But we wouldn't want people to have to be independant entities, would we? Better to tie our self-image to the nearest ethnic group/political party/sports team.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, it's how people think.

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Posted by Warped1701 (Member # 40) on :

Sol: Perhaps you were just talking about people in general. Personally, I don't time my self-image to any ethnic group/political party/sports team. I'm a person, just like everyone else, be it black, white, brown, yellow, blue, or otherwise. Catholic, Christian, Buddhist, Islamic, Atheist, it makes no difference to me. I agree with some, but not all, the ideas of both US political parties. When I vote, I vote for the candidate that I feel will best perform the job. As for sports, I don't really care for sports much. I'll watch them sometimes, but I have no team that I'm devoted to.

Forgive me for caring about my country. I'm damn glad to be an American, and always have been. Yes, we can be overly proud and arrogant people, but every country has people like that. I love my country, but even so, that doesn't mean I like everything about it. Our political system, it would work if we got rid of the current politicians and started from scratch with decent, honest people. The justice system...there really isn't one. There's alot of talk about being 'tough on crime' but that's all it is, talk.

I don't attach labels to myself, or others, because those labels divide us as people. I may not like the US's or other nations policies concerning one thing or another, but we are all human nonetheless. At least, that's the way I see it.

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Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :

What Simon meant is that Canada sacrificed more people per capita in both world wars than the United States.

As for medicare, its not so much that the US does not have national medicare, its that they don't have universal and equal access to a one-tier medicare system.

There is also the minor difference in that our leaders don't get into sex scandals as much, heh

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

We don't have government-funded universal health care, but we do have de-facto universal health care. I have yet to hear of a person denied routine medical treatment because they would not be able to pay. Our universal health-care system is not directed by the government nor is it administered by government employees. Rather, it is directed by compassion and administered by caring people.

--Baloo

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Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :

You know, America has been proud of itself ever since we recieved our freedom, because we fought for it.

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Posted by Warped1701 (Member # 40) on :

Does it really matter about people per capita? It doesn't matter how many people live in a square kilometer of a particular nation that died for their country. What matters is that those people gave their lives for their country, and what they believe in.

Personally, I'm in favor of a one-tier medical system. The long-term benefits far outweigh the short-term losses. But since this is the US, things will never change as long as lobbyists still exist. Even so, as Baloo said, the doctors and nurses who want to help people. You might be surprised, but some doctors get paid rather meager salaries for all the torture that had to go through to get that MD. Their love for helping those in need may possibly make them some of the most heart-felt of us all.

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Posted by Warped1701 (Member # 40) on :

*looks at the by-line* Wow...Senior Member.

*we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread*

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Posted by monkeyboy on :

This has turned out rather long.
But in response to Canada in WW1 and 2.
Canada contributed more than was expected from such a small power and from such a uninfluiential power. They were the second largest grower of food in the war for the allies, third largest production capaility in the war for the allies, trained many British pilots, did convoy for Britain,pow camps, had the third or fourth largest navy in terms of boats till they scrapped it. 1million plus troops from a country of 10.5 million people. Probaly more but can't remember.

There are differences in Canada and US. Us was formed through war, Canada was formed through diplomatic process. US and many of it's people have a superiorattitude to others, ( not all but many), Canada has these people as well but we are'nt known for it in the international community. Did u know it is much more advantaggeous to stich a Canadaian flag to your bag then an AMerican one? Why? Cause people treat u differently.

Oh differrent reactions to moives like ID4 and anything with what I call AMerican propaganda.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

*thinks about the Canadian military vs ID4 saucers*
*snicker*

Ahh, you're just mad because alien invaders wouldn't find your country important enough to attack, what with it's being cold and barren and not populous and all...

Lieutenant: "General, the aliens have destroyed Quebec, Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver and Montreal!"

General: "Well, that's it then. let's all pack up and go home."

And this whole "Oh, we gave so MUCH in the war..." Well, besides the War having been OVER for 50 years... dudes, you didn't win it for them, either. Kind of like wanting credit for being the buy who passed the ball to the guy who passed the ball to the guy who made the winning shot. Sure, your pass was crucial, and you helped the team and all, but.. come on!

I think much, if not most of the animosity towards Americans abroad is the fact that the US flexes it's muscle. The US has wide-ranging power and influence over other countries, and they know it, and they don't like it. (Irregardless of whether their country is benefiting from said influence or not.)

Canada, on the other hand, has little global power and influence, and therefore causes no abrasions, because it has built no muscle to flex. Much as the guy who lives next door who runs all the civic organizations is liable to have more enemies than the guy across the street who stays home and watches "MASH" reruns.

The US acts in what it believes are the best interests of the US, as do ALL other countries, whether they admit it or not. Other considerations are irrelevant. We just act more and harder. The World is no place for the timid.

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Posted by Jedi Weyoun (Member # 110) on :

*happens to be watching M*A*S*H reruns right now...considering there are no NEW M*A*S*H eppys* *L*

truth be told, though, i rather wish the U.S. were a bit more passive, instead of dashing off to the nearest seemingly damsel in distress. oh well. que sera sera. soon as we get slick willy out of office and get someone who can keep his pants up IN office, maybe we can turn this hellhole around.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

First just stumbled onto a great hipocrasy by the US there...

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Well, besides the War having been OVER for 50 years... dudes, you didn't win it for them, either.

Unfortunatly, neither did the US. Just to take, off the top of my head, Friends as an example. Final ep of season 4(the wedding in England one) where Ross's dad says 'you nasty, would be speaking German if it wasn't for us, cheap little man'
Americans are perfectly winning to take credit for coming into the war at the last minute and saving the day when they want. (And to paraphrase B5, it's so much easier to make the grand gesture after you've just been bombed).
And then, I distinctly remember an argument on another thread about how the colonists managed to wipe out nearly all the Native Americans when they arived, and someone said that the current generation is responsible. Almost everyone disagreed, saying how can we be responsible for what our ancestors did? Okay, if you want to take that point, then you can't take credit for it. NONE of you fought in either of the World Wars, from any country. The Canadians of the 30s and 40s may have sacrifised more for WWII (although still less than the British) than the US, but none of you did.

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You know, America has been proud of itself ever since we recieved our freedom, because we fought for it.

It's true. The British didn't fight for their freedom in the World Wars. But if your talking about creation ofthe country, you've got to remember most of the countries in Europe can't even remember being formed, since it happened so long ago, and evolved over time. Britian was invaded by the Normans, the Saxons, the Celts, and anyone with a big stick. And we intergrated them. The Romans invaded. What happened? Well, we got roads, improved education and nice clothes.

American superiority doesn't come out of any sort of pride of the past, so much as inadequacy over the past. Like it or not, the United States of America is a very young nation. And like the new boy in school, is trying to prove itself by picking fights with everyone else, rather than worrying about it's own problems.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

well, that was what I kind of meant when I said "either." Not that the US single-handedly won the war. Hardly. It was a group effort.

And you're right, nobody here, Canadian OR American, can take credit for having anything to do with WWII.

Not even Baloo's that old.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I was agreeing with you there First. I know, I was shocked too.

I was just using it as a jumping off platform.

And yes, WWII was a group effort. It's just a pity that America lost their invitation and turned up to the party an hour late.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

First of Two: I'm aghast. You seem to have no grip on history whatsoever.

>>Canada, on the other hand, has little global power and influence, and therefore causes no abrasions, because it has built no muscle to flex.

Um... first of all, be glad that the DEW line existed. Without it, you would have been wide open to nuclear missiles from the Soviets in the Cold War.

Oh, and how about that little thing... the..um..Suez crisis? What was the name of that guy who solved it? Pearson? A Canadian? Naaah... the sheer thought that a non-American would invent the UN peacekeeper is ludicrous.

And how about the treaty that the US refuses to sign because it's too dirty... you know, the Treaty of Ottawa that every civilized country (except the US... or is pointing this out even necessary) has signed to ban Anti-personnel landmines. Who came up with that?

<dumbamericanspeek>Ottawa..duh... that's in Sweden, right? </dumbamericanspeek>

Or that battle in France in WW1 where the Canadians saved the asses of everybody... Vimy something?

Basketball's Canadian too, just in case you were asking. And Trivial Pursuit. And William Sha...um...nevermind.

>>>The US acts in what it believes are the best interests of the US, as do ALL other countries

You hit the nail on the head there by saying all the US cares about is its immediate borders, or whatever it can blow up in order to preserve "the American Way" outside the US.

But if that was the way "ALL other countries" acted, then this planet would be a radioactive cinder. Canada, unlike the States, is far less concerned with appealing to the lowest common redneck denominator than the fate of humanity in general.

Screwball Fact: Americans are so ignorant that, as a percentage, more Canadians can name all 50 American States than Americans can name all 10 Canadian Provinces. Talk about one big, close-minded nation.

If you don't mind me, I'll go mush my huskies back to my igloo, eat some Kraft Dinner, watch Bob and Doug Mackenzie on TV, plan my shopping trip to West Edmonton Mall and ponder what Bill C has that Jean C doesn't have. On the way home I'll wave to the Mountie and stop to let the reindeer cross the road. Want me to send your regards to the local Bison?

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

I like land mines.

Ontario
Manitoba
Newfoundland
Yukon
Northwest Territories
That new one with the Inuit name
Saskatchewan
Quebec
British Columbia
Nova Scotia

That's ten, from memory. Was I right?

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

"Not even Baloo's that old.

???

I don't know whether I've been insulted or not.

With regard to WW II, I think each of us should exercise the option of taking emotional credit for the good things our ancestors did without taking the blame for their decisions. We have to live with the results, so blame is unnecessary and unproductive.

As far as Canadian nationalism, it's just as ugly when it's ugly, and noble when it's noble, as any other nation's attitude.

(Not my final word, but enough for now.)

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That's not my last word on the subject. It's an opening salvo.
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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

*pokes Frank*
Ten provinces, three territories...

You missed Alberta, New Brunswick and little old PEI. And it's Nunavut.

My turn, from memory

1 Alaska
2 Hawaii
3 Washington
4 Oregon
5 California
6 Nevada
7 Idaho
8 Montana
9 Wyoming
10 Utah
11 Colorado
12 Arizona
13 New Mexico
14 Missouri
15 North Dakota
16 South Dakota
17 Texas
18 Oklahoma
19 Kansas
20 Michigan
21 Indiana
22 Illinois
23 Ohio
24 Maine
25 Vermont
26 New Hampshire
27 New York
28 Connecticut
29 Rhode I.
30 Mass.
31 New Jersey
32 Pennsylvania
33 Delaware
34 Virginia
35 W. Virginia
36 North Carolina
37 South Carolina
38 Georgia
39 Florida
40 Alabama
41 Louisiana
42 Mississippi
43 Tennessee
44 Kentucky
45 Wisconsin
46 Minnesota
47 Arkansas
48 Nebraska
49 Iowa
50

If you'd given me a blank map I would've gotten the last one

*locking thread and starting a freshy*

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