Ever seen an angel, or some miracle that proves god exists? Ever seen a demon head floating? Survived an accident when you should have died?

Have you ever gone to sleep and shared a dream with a friend, and remembered it, and varified it with the friend later? Movie examples (Explorers, Dreamscape, Nightmare on Elm Street: Dream Warriors, .....)

I once wolk up in the middle of the night and felt extreemly cold, chilled to the bone, but I knew that it was supposed to be warm, (I don't remember if there was frost on my breath, I don't think there was...) but I looked over at my bedroom door, and there was a green floating see-throw glowing demon head, just floating there looking at me. I slowly pulled show sheets over my head and just layed there breathing as quietly and slowly as possible, I didn't get to sleep till the sun was up.

Once when I was crossing the street, I hadn't looked and a car was about to hit me, and someone pulled me back, when I looked behind me, nobody was there!!

-Marc

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"Hey you...you talkin to me?"
"Show me your steel"
"I will show you my iron claw technique!"

At any rate, how much Doom had you been playing that night?

And, to prove that I am a fountain of useless knowledge with few peers:

CE I: Visual sightings of an unknown craft. (In these circles, of course, unknown always means alien, so we'll stick with the ET terminology as a matter of clarification.)

CE II: Physical evidence of a UFO landing.

CE III: Contact with extraterrestrial beings.

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"20th Century, go to sleep."
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R.E.M.

 

so Sol, where would you put this discussion?

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"Hey you...you talkin to me?"
"Show me your steel"
"I will show you my iron claw technique!"

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Ohh, so Mother Nature needs a favor? Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts, and plagues and poison monkeys. Nature started the fight for survival and now she wants to quit because she's losing...well I say "Hard Cheese"!
~C. Montgomery Burns

 

My skepticism also rests on the fact that our entire perception of the world is filtered through fallable senses of hearing and sight. I have several times heard my name being called when there's nobody there - a common auditory hallucination brought on by fatigue.
I have also had bouts of vertigo (not necessarily related to heights, but to ear infections, etc), which can produce visual distortions and even hallucinations. My brother told me once that his medication for epilepsy used to regularly produce terrifying monsters in his peripheral vision.

Being myopic as well, I find when I wake during the night (minus correcting lenses) the world is transformed into a grey swirling mass where even something like a chair can for an instant look like a living form.

I don't buy ghosts, because after doing a physics degree you think of everything you see as something that refelcts photons into your eye. If a ghost can be seen, it'd need to reflect, and thus be made of "stuff". So you're telling me a couple of million atoms appear and disappear from the ether, and go through solid objects in violation of the laws of physics? To believe that I'd need more evidence than that of my useless and increasingly knackered eyes. Id probaly need to introduce myself to one and ask if I could have a brief word about the afterlife if they're not too busy.

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Gene: "I AM Star Trek"
Yvonne: "You can't sum yourself up in so small a package."
Gene: "SMALL?!!"

- Gene Roddenberry: The Last Conversation

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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.

Well, let's see.
I've seen UFO's. Three, to my recollection. Two were potentially explainable as other phenomena. One was... not. BUT, I can't be entirely sure that that one really happened, because I experienced 'missing time.'

I've had any number of odd coincidences, the most impressive of which occured while I was training to be a counselor for a church camp (that's right, ME, back before the Change). We were all gathered in a cabin to watch a training video. I decided suddenly to move to a better seat. The instant I sat down in the other seat, the window that had been behind my previous seat fell inward, shattering on my chair and shredding the jacket I had left there. I almost certainly would have been killed.

I've had shared dreams, and one instance in which a friend dreamed about things that I had thought about the night before. (She dreamt she was in a scene out of a book I was reading, despite never having read the book herself)

I had a friend in college who claimed to be able to see auras, and he claimed that mine is an intense "electric purple color, like ultraviolet blacklight" and said that he's afraid of me because of it, because when I'm angry, flames of it leap a foot up from my hands. (I, of course, have never seen this.)

I have noticed that my hands have a tendency to get hot when I am on 'holy' ground or other places considered 'sacred' or 'spiritually significant,' including graveyards and 'indian rocks' (places there are Native Amnerican carvings).

My cousin claimed throughout her youth that she could see the departing essences of recently dead animals or people.

There's more, but I don't need anybody thinking I'm crazier than I actually am.

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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson

one, I just get these FEELINGS sometimes about a close friend, and it'll nag at me until I call them and I'll find out that they're having a major crisis and that my feeling was right and that they wanted me to call them...

two, I know in advance when I'm going to get in a car accident. Ever since my first car was totalled, I've KNOWN when an accident was coming up. It's almost disabling, because I become so freaked out and stressed out about it that I start to drive like i DESERVE to be in an accident. But so far not a single time has it been my fault. And actually, most of the times that it happened, I wasn't even driving because I was so freaked out that I refused to drive and then we STILL got in an accident... *shrug* What kind of luck is that?

three, Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night with a thought in my head, and I'll find out a few days later that I was right... for instance, last spring I woke up at 4am, sat bolt upright in bed and said "Oh my gosh... Landon's wife is pregnant...!" Keep in mind that at this point I hadn't seen or heard from Landon in several months.... however, just three days later I ran into a mutual friend who told me that his wife indeed was pregnant and that they'd only found out a few days before... creepy. I did that with another friend a few week ago, too....

four, I have experienced what COULD be called missing time, but I think it's just Liz spacing out, because it only has happend when I was deep into a spell of insomnia and wasn't fully operational, if you know what I mean...

And as for seeing things, yes... it's happened... again though, it was in the middle of an insomnia spell, and so I don't put much thought into it... a few months ago after youth group I was watching one of the Fishers play guitar, and suddenly he faded to black and white... nothing else did, just him... the next day he fell into a 6 week long bad mood. weird. Also, a few weeks after that, I was at a church rally here in Spokane, and FOM was playing, and as they played I saw this like swirling cloud of "evil" above them on the stage. A few minutes later two of my best friends fell apart in tears, and I found out that a major crisis had happened earlier in the day.

Are all of these things coincidences? I think so. I'm not big into the whole "supernatural powers" thing... I blame most of them on lack of sleep and fatigue... having insomnia the way I sometimes do REALLY starts to mees with your head. Everything else I just blame on a good intuition.... No little green men in MY life! *smile*

~LOA

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"When the toast is burnin', all the milk has turned'
and Captain Crunch is waving farewell....
When the big one finds you, may this song remind you
that they don't serve breakfast in Hell!" ~Newsboys, Breakfast
 

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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf

BTW:
Close Encounter of the 4th Kind = Abduction

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"Reality is a condition that occurs because of a lack of alcohol."
- Albert Einstein

(-=\V/=-)
 

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"Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly, for the same reason."
--(Unknown)
Come Hither and Yawn...

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"Hello darkness my old friend,
I've come to talk with you again....." ~Simon & Garfunkle, The Sound of Silence

 

Area 51 has been photographed by Soviet spy satellites since the 1970s. It's not because of "aliens" but because of something we like to call supersonic aircraft. Keep in mind, in the 1940s, Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich was developing aircraft which looked nothing like normal aircraft and were capable of some amazing feats. Who do you think took control of the Nazi plans when they were defeated? The US and the USSR, primarily the former.

See, there's generally a pretty logical explanation to everything. Granted, this wouldn't be a slam dunk conviction in court, but I could convince 12 people of it.

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"I can't let you smother me. I'd like to but it wouldn't work." - Kurt Cobain
Lounge Act, Nirvana
 

I've seen quite a number of 'black' projects (It helps having a relative in Military Intelligence, and subscribing to certain journals), but I've never seen any designs for a dome-shaped plane with four bottom engines (?) that could hover, cover a significant portion of the sky while still far in the air, and move upwards at incredible speeds while humming.

Incidentally, "Area 51" has been closed for some time. The facilities have moved to Utah-Colorado border locations.

"Pumpkinseed" "Brilliant Pebbles" and "Thor."

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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson

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"I can't let you smother me. I'd like to but it wouldn't work." - Kurt Cobain
Lounge Act, Nirvana
 

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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf

Some of the MUFON-types were claiming that what the guy had handled was UFO by-products.

I'm not even sure they're guarding Area 51 like they used to.

Back when I was young and stupid, I briefly advocated a plan to 'liberate' Area 51 and expose the truth. Probably fatal.

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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson

I can find things, too... Charles and I once got lost in a place that I had never been to, and I pointed in a direction (without looking at a map) and told him we should have turned there. *L* ..
Hm... what else... There are sometimes "entities" that come to visit, and usually I ignore them. Then there was the ghost in the 4th floor academic building's bathroom. And the thing that wanted to strangle me last night (more times than once, "something" has tried to kill/hurt me that did not physically exist).

Then there are the times when I just know something's going to happen, or someone's feeling or thinking a certain thing, or I have dreams and they come true.

I have many times told people on the internet what thier bedrooms look like without ever having met them.

*shrugs*... what can I say, i'm a wierd child.

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"Permasuck, by Froboz Electric: 'We don't just make things that suck, we make things that suck, PERMANENTLY.'"
 

That's because you complained so loudly!

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"I can't remember stuff." - John Linnell
 

I am very glad that things I think about, or dream about do not happen. I have never had any experience more unusual than deja vu. And I decided to investigate that by keeping a diary of all the dreams I could recall for several months. I ended up with a bizarre collection of disjointed narratives, but not one portentous prediction.

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Gene: "I AM Star Trek"
Yvonne: "You can't sum yourself up in so small a package."
Gene: "SMALL?!!"

- Gene Roddenberry: The Last Conversation

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"20th Century, go to sleep."
--
R.E.M.

 

At exactly 1:10 to 2:10, I "lose time". And then I carry on about my day.

I don't know why this happens, but I suppose it has something to do with my Chemistry class being at that time

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I bet when Neanderthal kids would make a snowman, someone would
always end up saying "Don't forget the big heavy eyebrows." Then they would all get embarrassed because they remembered they had the big hunky eyebrows too, and then they would get mad and eat the snowman.

-Jack Handey

 

I experience deja vu frequently. But granted, I live a pretty damned repetetive life. Moreover, I generally dream about mundane things, like my mundane life. So...

Also, I used to experience lost time frequently. I'd close my eyes, and then open them almost immediately. But it'd be as much as 5 or 6 hours later! Granted, I'm a freaky sleeper.

So really, well... damn, nothing wierd happens to me. Cool!

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"I can't let you smother me. I'd like to but it wouldn't work." - Kurt Cobain
Lounge Act, Nirvana
 

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"Hey you...you talkin to me?"
"Show me your steel"
"I will show you my iron claw technique!"

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"I can't let you smother me. I'd like to but it wouldn't work." - Kurt Cobain
Lounge Act, Nirvana
 

Could the bizarre and terrifying inner workings of the female mind be classed as paranormal?

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Gene: "I AM Star Trek"
Yvonne: "You can't sum yourself up in so small a package."
Gene: "SMALL?!!"

- Gene Roddenberry: The Last Conversation

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"Don't have a mind" - Kurt Cobain
Breed, Nirvana

 

~LOA

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"Hello darkness my old friend,
I've come to talk with you again....." ~Simon & Garfunkle, The Sound of Silence

 

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I'm the Worlds First Fully Functional Homicidal Artist.....

And i can sense electromagnetic disturbances and i have a uncanny understanding of electronics that i have never encountered.

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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.

If I think really hard, sometimes I can use my telekenisis to make trees move. It only happens when it's windy out, so it's hard to notice.

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I bet when Neanderthal kids would make a snowman, someone would
always end up saying "Don't forget the big heavy eyebrows." Then they would all get embarrassed because they remembered they had the big hunky eyebrows too, and then they would get mad and eat the snowman.

-Jack Handey

 

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Dane

"...and there was war in heaven..." The Bible, Revelation 12:7

 

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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.

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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.

I got up and sat a lighter on the coffee table and stared at the damn thing for more than 30 minutes before I decided that perhaps maybe I didn't really have telekinesis after all. Then I had breakfast. That was in 1982.

I once saw three UFOs in the night sky.

It was just before I went to Korea for the first time. I was on leave and visiting my mom in Sacramento (Sacratomato! The world's biggest hick town! If it wasn't for the state government, the largest employer would be the Libbey's packing plant).

I was standing in her back yard having a cigarrette (she doesn't smoke so I don't stink up her house). One evening I looked up into the western sky, and from the direction of McClellan AFB (3 miles distant) I saw 3 aircraft in vee formation approaching. I listened for the engine sounds and heard nothing. They appeared to be reflecting city light, so I figured they must be at no less than 1,000 feet altitude (roughly 350 meters). They silently cruised overhead on an easterly heading.

Still no engine sound, nor the sound of air rushing over their fuselages. I'd been watching them for about a minute now and had been wracking my brain in an effort to identify these aircraft. I estimated their speed to be around 100-150 mph. They should have been making some sort of noise, but I still was not hearing anything other than the muted sounds of the freeway and other typical night noises.

I calculated the wingspan to be between 30 and 60 feet, with a fuselage length of around 2/3 that amount. The wings were straight from the wingroot to a point about midway between the the fuselage and the wingtip. The inner section was slightly forward-swept. At the mid-wing point, the wings swept back around 15 degrees, tapering to a sharp tip. The fuselage looked cylindrical, with a pointed nose ending in a fan-shaped tail with a straight trailing edge.

Nothing I could think of matched that description. As I watched the three craft dissappear into the eastern night sky, I remember thinking: "Hmmm... Could not identify. Technically this means it's a UFO. Maybe if I wait for a bit they'll return?"

Just as I had that thought I got a "creepy" feeling and decided it was time to go back inside.

Three years later, while I was stationed at Cannon AFB, I went to visit my mom in "the Big Tomato" again.

Same time of night, similar atmospheric conditions, similar circumstances. I was in the back yard having a smoke when I noticed a single object approaching from the west. I couldn't believe my luck! Here was another one! I watched it intently, doing all my mental calculations regarding size, speed, and configuration, hoping this time to identify the mysterious plane! I started going through my mental list of what planes might look this way under these circumstances.

As I watched, it followed the same course that the others had years ago, exhibiting the same steady, silent progress.

Eureka! It made a sound!

Damn! It was only a seagull!

Despite my earlier assumptions, I did not realize that an object cruising at an altitude of 50 feet could be so well-lit from beneath by the ambient light of the city. That's why I was unable to identify my first sighting.

--Baloo

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"Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly, for the same reason."
--(Unknown)
Come Hither and Yawn...

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The Earth is being invaded by an alien race of advanced maritime birds! How can we defend ourselves from this menace?

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Gene: "I AM Star Trek"
Yvonne: "You can't sum yourself up in so small a package."
Gene: "SMALL?!!"

- Gene Roddenberry: The Last Conversation

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"Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly, for the same reason."
--(Unknown)
Come Hither and Yawn...

My best friend however seems to have a gift at guessing things. When I ask him to guess anything, be it the age of my distant uncle to the phone number of my team partner at school, he has it right about 95% of the times. And he sort of feels when someone he hasn't in a long time is coming. He'd suddenly start talking about his cousin for no reason and he'd get a call from her the next morning (and believe me, there was NO way he could have known). However it never works if I intentionally try to make him prove his talent. If I ask him to guess to prove him, it never works. Kinda like quantum physics were an electron is both a wave and a particule when unobserved but one or the other when there's an attempt to detect it.

I'd also like to say that I'm a fairly sceptical person. I don't really believe in ghosts or ESP but I'm not willing to deny the possibility of it.

By the Jubilee, what about guessing what's in my room?

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-If you ask me, I think continuity is highly overrated...
*Brannon Braga*

-So, you do it out of hate! Good! That's an emotion I can trust...
*Megatron - Beast Wars*
 

First of Two, Ghostbuster!!

So if I vanish after this weekend, you'll know I 'crossed over.'

WhooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo......

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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson

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"20th Century, go to sleep."
--
R.E.M.

 

IMHO, ESP is nonsense. It happens inside your head! When you know a house to be haunted, you will feel colder and hear weird things.

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So small,
so innocent,
so young,
so delicately done,
grown up in your poison.

"Little Baby Swastikkka"
-Skunk Anansie

 

And none of them had telekinesis.

On dreaming of flying:
"When you dream, you sometimes remember. When you wake, you always forget." -- Gaiman

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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi
 

Those birds were just to throw you off the trail!!

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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf

And are you guys telling me some mice and a generous supply of spiders isn't sufficiently scary for you?
What if one of the little devils crawled under your blanket in the middle of the night?

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"You don't need eyes to see; you need VISION"
- Faithless / Reverence

1) I am able to "hear" electricity. If a TV is on, but muted with zero sound whatsoever, I can be on the other side of the house and hear it turned on and hear when it is on. Same go for computers and sound systems.

2) I have slight premanitions. I can see an second or two second long event months before it actually happens. The viewings usually occur just from imagination, It's just part of all the useless images I can see in my head at any given moment. As far as I know from all the times this has happened, it's not deja vu, since it usually happens in a place I've never been. The most reacent case was in Physics this year, where I was sitting in my seat. I wasn't paying attention (as usual), and I look up, and there is a scene that I have stored in my memory, and I get a very weird feeling. My hands are visibly in the exact position, the people in the room are in the exact position, the clothes and colors are the same as well. This occured very early in the year, and, again, I had never been in that room prior to that class, so it couldn't be deja vu.

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"The things hollow--it goes on forever--and--oh my God!--it's full of stars!" -David Bowman's last transmission back to Earth, 2001: A Space Odyssey
 

You have a 'feeling' that your sister is pregnent (or whatever). You get home, and find that she is. (Shocking as well, after haivng just got married, plus the fact that she was trying for a baby too). Bingo! You can predict the future.

OTOH, you get a feeling that your sister is pregnent. You get home, and she isn't. You think no-more about it.

It's just that the 0.000001% of times that something happens that you think will happen, it sticks out.

359: I can do the first of these things too. Notice that the three things you mentioned all produce sound anyway? At a guess, TV's always emit sound at a high frequency. You can just hear it. With the speakers, you can hear the electromagnet vibrating. And computers ALWAYS make noise. You are most likely hearing the fan. Or the monitor or speakers for the same reasons. Can you tell when a video recorders on? Or an alarm clock?

If you could "sense" electricity, then your power could be put to far greater use in locating that digital watch that's been lost behind the sofa.

UM: Good sarcasm mate.

And Neccy "Well every one has psionic abilities to a certain extent.". Care to clarify and/or prove that? Because I've yet to be convinced by the "I had a feeling that my mother was going to ring, and, less than a week later, she did" arguments.

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"Sorry Wendy, I just can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."

Mr Garrison

[This message has been edited by PsyLiam (edited February 12, 2000).]
 

A couple of years ago I was out in my front yard looking up into the evening sky for stars and the like and I noticed a plane. It was very big and it was flying pretty high, it looked military (insert creepy music). I am close to a military base ('bout 20 miles away) so it didn't seem all that unusual until I got a closer look: When I came back with my telescope I looked up at the plane a couple of minutes before it went over the horizon: It had all jaggaed wings like bent in 30 degree angles and there were maybe 4 angles to a wing. I also noticed about 4 or 5 small planes that looked a lot like the French Mirage 2000 fighter plane ot maybe and old Thunderchief flying next to it. The plane than continued on its way and disapperaed, but how did it fly with all those screwed up angles?!

Also I have seen a few UFOs but no aliens.
Also they had an article about that movement of Area 51 to Area 6413 as they called it in a Popular Mechanics issue

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Klingons never do anything small, eh Worf? -Commander Riker,
Star Trek: Insurrection
http://www.huntel.net/massa/StarTrek/index.htm

[This message has been edited by Delta Vega (edited February 12, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Delta Vega (edited February 12, 2000).]
 

I, too, can 'sense' when the TV is on, sometimes before I enter the house. I am convinced, however, that this is simply due to sensitivity to an ultra-high-frequency sound.

Now, if you want to get strange, I could tell you what happened to my three 'sworn enemies' when I was in school...

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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi