I relize that the bald eagle is a national symbol, but I honestly think the USPS is kind of pushing it with this stamp. What do you think about it?
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Fifty-Seven cents?! I hope they're not boostig the rate that much.
And why is this in the flameboard? Oh, I can see it now:
Rob: "The fifty-seven cent stamp eats into gun-buying money!"
Me: "Well you sleep with your gun!"
Flower Man: "I'm not MIB! I'm not MIB! Well, okay, yes I am. Don't tell Charles."
Omega: "Do you have evidence that cubic Eagles reduce crime?"
or
"The government has no right to run the postal service! Privatize! Privatize, you bitches!"
or
"Great Brataain sucks!"
Me: "You foooool!"
Vogon: "Christ I'm glad I'm British ...."
The_Tom: "Christ I'm glad I'm Canadian ..."
Tahna Los: "I will CRUSH your skull like a puny tin can!"
Ultra Magnus: "I want to have Dolph Lundgren's Great Grandchildren. And color my car with a crayon. Yes."
PsyLiam: "Don't you know ANYTHING about British Geography?"
Charles: "...!"
Jay: "Here's a relevent link putting the blame square on Bush..."
[ March 19, 2002, 21:11: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snay ]
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
You'll note that the "category" listed for it is "additional postage". Presumably, it is not supposed to be a standard-price stamp.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
The_Tom, I hope I get royalties on that Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I don't think it resembles the Silver Surfer much at all. For one thing, he's silver.
And a surfer.
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
Who said it looked like the Surfer? Are you mad?
And yes, it does look SS to me.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
You're asking me if I'm mad?
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
So that's what my Flameboard posts can be condensed down to. I was wondering.
*looks at stamp* Jawohl! Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Schrub!
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
Ni!
Sol: Well who said it den?
Posted by Flower Man (Member # 780) on :
quote:Originally posted by The_Tom:
Whoa. Where can I get a copy of this?
[ March 20, 2002, 08:02: Message edited by: Flower Man ]
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
While the SS and the Nazis in general were quite possibly the scariest and most evil group since the Nephilim, the one thing they did right was design uniforms and insignia. Nobody wears black, red and silver like the SS, I'll tell yah.
I don't necessarily think of Nazism when Ilook at the stamp...especially not with the text under it. I just think Art Deco.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Nim: Think about the initial letters of "Silver Surfer". Then look at the thread title.
BTW, when I showed the stamp to my roommate, before I even mentioned why I was showing it to him, he immediately put one hand up, two fingers of his other hand under his nose, and did a Schultz-esque "I know nussink!" So apparently it looks Nazi even w/o suggestion. :-)
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
Since the German Eagle usually looked more like a real eagle, I'll have to agree that the eagle on the stamp is much more DECO than NAZI.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
That may be so. However, that art-deco style is reminiscent of Nazi stuff, and they used an eagle as a symbol, so it isn't very surprising that an art-deco eagle would make one think "Nazis", regardless of whether the Nazis ever used a decoration like it or not.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
When did the Nazis use art deco?
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
In the, um, thirties. A decade strangely cohabitated by both art deco and Herr Adolf Hitler.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
No, I mean, can you show me any Nazi Deco stuff? I've never seen any.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
I believe what they're saying is, certain elements of Nazi style could have been inspired by the Art Deco movement. Art Deco had a specific futuristic bent which the Nazis might have wanted to tap into, given the glorious future, under the auspices of National Socialism, that they were keen to promote.
Whether justified or not, the sylised eagle symbolism has come to be associated with the Nazis. It's likely (well, I hope it is) that whoever designed this stamp was unaware of such associations. I'm no philatelist, but maybe there was an earlier stamp (from the Art Deco period) which used this design.
True story: A rollercoaster was built on the Pier in Brighton a few years back. They wanted to give it a cool, futuristic name, so they chose - apparently at random with no idea as to the word's other usage - Zyklon. When informed that was a brand of nerve gas used in the concentration camps, they hurriedly renamed it.
I saw a program a while back about Nazi architecture, which included some obvious Art Deco touches; I'll try to see if I can dig up a few examples. I recommend reading William Gibson's short story "The Gernsback Continuum" (from the collection Burning Chrome, among others), it's all about the dangers of Art Deco architecture. 8)
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
Dudes, it's not that complicated. The nazis merely followed the fashion of the time, like everyone does. It coloured everything, just look at opening credits in movies of the time, every swedish movie has the style, it's infectious.
And the Nazis did use the squarish, blocky eagle-symbol a lot. On most of their standards, letterheads and on the collars of their uniforms, at least.
I wouldn't be surprised if the actual symbol had been used since the time of the last Kaiser, though.
Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :
While it may not be exactly like the Nazi-style eagle, it holds many of the characteristics of such. Eagles that face most American stuff are normally more life-like. Not necessarily in the artwork, but in the way it's drawn. Nazi-style eagles were more stiff. Wings straight out as opposed to curved in flight (or take-off). I'm shocked that something like this passed through the cracks of the US government.
I'm not condemning the artist. Art is their own, but this would be like having a stamp with artwork that looked very similar to the Confederate Flag.
Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :
SS = Silver surfer. I think that's quite a stretch there, sir Sol.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Yeah, 'cuz obviously SS stands for STAR SEARCH!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"...this would be like having a stamp with artwork that looked very similar to the Confederate Flag."
The Confederate battle flag is still part of a couple state flags. How woudl making a stamp out of it be much different?
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