Okay, the guy is a newbie, and it shows. So he made a few posts by mistake. So what?
Does that mean people should act like jerks and tear his throat out with every post? Absolutely not.
Many of us (myself included) were a little ungainly in our first month or two here. We'd do well to remember that. There's (usually) no excuse for rudeness. Especially towards new members who haven't quite gotten the hang of things.
I'm asking people, particularly Vogon Poet and Topher, to lay off with the causticity. Please. I'm quite displeased to see it lurking about.
-MMoM Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Topher's a mod, so I'm not sure he personally is a valid target for this thread. In blaming all involved parties whether they're responsible or not, he's just implementing forum policy.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Oooooh. Aaaaaah. Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
quote:Originally posted by Omega: Topher's a mod, so I'm not sure he personally is a valid target for this thread. In blaming all involved parties whether they're responsible or not, he's just implementing forum policy.
Agreed, but while Topher's mod-action in the TNG first contact thread was a perfectly valid one, crap like this post is out of line IMO. (And ironically so, considering that he himself started that thread in a rather newbie-ish oversight of his own. )
-MMoM Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Thank you - considering I made a VERY vaid point in that thread, among others, on topics, such as the above thread regarding something that I see has been discussed many times on this forum, to which I have the time of research to back it up. I have long been a guest, and a long time back a former member of this site, and there is nothing more refreshing than joining a site, just to find I am a frickin' leper here for bringing in some original ideas and defending myself as no one else (mind, Mmom) seems to be effectively moderating mindless attacks.
How does that go..."power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"? I think I have made a valid point, and believe me this has been well edited....because I am HERE to talk about trek with people who have the same interest in it that I have....that is why I decided to join
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
I would just like to say that nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes. I've made some big ones in my time. However I was always under the impression that if there's something going on in a thread, you don't carry it over to another.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Not to put off a "how dare thee question us" vibe, but this sort of shit gives the place a bit of a TrekBBSey smell that I'm not so fond of. Kiss and make up by all means, but please don't start passing off an attack of chronic anal-retentive overthetopness as some kind of open forum where concerned citizenstm discuss the lifethreatening actions of various posters, including moderators.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
I don't think I understood more than one sentence of that...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Speak for yourself topher: I'm perfrkt. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
FG: Honestly, if you get this uptight about the stuff people have said to you so far, you probably wouldn't last here very long even if people did try to make an effort to refrain from insulting you.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
No, I am uptight about being treated like stupid shit on a forum when I am/was using it exactly as it is intended. Sarcasm, jabs and humor I dont mind and/or enjoy, but plain old 'being an asshole, for no absolute reason' is a little uncalled for. If everyone here already knows everything about star trek yet feels the need to be pissing on everyone else for discussing it to enjoy or understand it better, then I dont understand why they are on here for in the first place.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
That's strange....I'm kinda new here myself and the only time I ever get smartass reamrks is when I make a typo.... ...or spell anything wrong, mis-quote anyone or have a diffrent opinion than the majority of the board...HEY! YOU ARE ALL DICKS!!!!!
Seriously I think that Futureguy could be more thick-skinned but I have also seen members of the forums snipe at (Vorgon Poet for example) somebody on multiple threads without any real imput on the thread's topic. Some people DO suck and this is not really the most welcoming environment for a newbee. THere is however alot of very talented and cool people here too and they keep me coming back to argue minute details and pointless trivia about Trek and the world in general. Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
The only times I ever get sniped at is when I make a stupid post, or post something that (after I look at it later)was a really dumb thing to say.
You just have to take in in stride, and not let it destroy the whole Flare experience. I didn't.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Excuse me, I'm not picking on him (yet!). 8)
Sorry, kidding. My only interaction with him has been that thread which he posted about some discussion in another thread. I made a reply that was meant to be a joke, he took it badly and was rude to me. I was rude back, and I'm much better at it than him. Since then I've stayed out of that thread in the interests of not escalating things further.
ASnd that's all I really want to say about it, because frankly I'm bored with it all. I'm thinking of packing all this in for good. I don't watch Star Trek anymore, most of the people here I care about talk with via ICQ and email anyway, so what's the point? I fully expect a New Poll to appear entitled "Vogon Poet is a Troll who is Horrid and Mean to Everyone: Yes or No?" anyday now. . . 8)
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Oh, come on; Futurama Guy, lighten up. Don't take stuff so personally, it's not like you actually have to talk to the people here on a day to day basis or even to reply if someone does make a comment. For the record it does actually appear to be a mistake in FG's understanding of VP's first post; the list of first contacts didn't appear to have any point, no request for additional data or assessments or whatever. Granted that was implicit but I do think FG over reacted.
I don't think this board has a particular problem with pickinh on people, not since the 'I am very dissapointed' thread, anyway. it's usually just a lighthearted pisstake of spelling mistakes etc.
quote: most of the people here I care about talk with via ICQ and email anyway,
VP doesn't care about me, I'm hurt
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I agree with Wraith. Both VP and FG were out of line.
I just read through the First Contacts in TNG, via Picard, et al. thread. I think FG could have responded to VP's comment a little more diplomatically.
And I think VP could have been a little less mean in his replies as well.
Hopefully, some day soon we'll be able to read that thread and laugh.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Hey, I get my own thread! I feel so special...you DO love me afterall...
And wait, I still dont see what is wrong with my topic? It seemed perfectly relavent, well hell, how else do topics come up in this forum? Its not like I am making some totally queer one up about which "female cast members hair-do is the best and how many times have they changed it?" Unless there is an automated topic generator somewhere or only the special people are allowed to bring up new topics? I am defending my topic more than I am defending getting ripped on.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Let me explain. We have a long-term member here, currently called Newark. Except he doesn't capitalise things, he's not good at it it seems, so he's newark. Before that he was targetemployee, before that Lindsly, before that USS Trinculo. I am mean to him on a regular basis, I'm trying to stop but it's so much fun.
But, you see, for a while, he would start these new threads with often the most inane of observations, usually Trek-related. I really wish I could search for a couple of good examples but 24 season 2 is starting in 20 minutes so I'm strapped for time. It got to the point where even the nicest people here would just reply "Yeah, so?" and he has since reined it in a bit.
So, in the case of your other thread, you could have put in a paragraph or a couple of sentences explaining what you were trying to say, for the benefit of those who maybe haven't been following the thread (because, say, it's gone off in directions which don't interest us, or we simply don't have time to read every ongoing thread - both excuses apply to me right now).
We don't need another targetemployee, kid. The forums couldn't sustain it. 8)
Posted by E. Cartman (Member # 256) on :
OTOH, they could do with a second Vogon infusing healthy doses of reality.
(On an unrelated and remarkably uninteresting sidenote, newark went by the name of colin, too. But we love him all the same.)
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Perhaps it was an overreaction on my part to start this thread...this discussion seems to be getting a bit long-winded.
But seriously, I don't think the compilation of TNG first contacts was in any way pointless or inane. On the contrary, I haven't seen a definitive listing anywhere before, and given the 27-species figure quoted in Nemesis (and before anyone says anything, I hardly think that's a spoiler for the film) I had been curious.
But I think we've covered about as much ground as we're going to here.
-MMoM Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Hey, Im at the point that Im just trying to post enough that I can upload files on here. Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I haven't read this thread, but from the title alone, Futuramaguy - I'm not. If that's any consolation!
Maybe your just our resident Zoidberg!
Now get outta here ya windy barnacle!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Newark was targetemployee!?! and USS Trinclo!?! Maybe people should have a name history in their profiles.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poet: ...most of the people here I care about talk with via ICQ and email anyway...
I'm hurt, Lee. Not one word.
Granted, no ICQ for me...but STILL!! It's the THOUGHT that counts, dammit!!
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Hey, Im at the point that Im just trying to post enough that I can upload files on here.
Now that's one thing that we don't need around here. People posting just to get a certain post count so they can do stuff. If you're going to post something, make it meaningful. Unless you're Tim who has a reply in just about every thread on Flare... Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Oh Lord, here we go again with the 'shoulds' and the 'shants'. Next thing I am going to hear is that I am now limited to 100 posts a month....
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Jesus. Just, you know, go outside or something.
It's just a messageboard.
Go have sex with a woman.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Well, Futurama Guy, he's absolutely right on that account. Posting simply for the sake of increasing one's post count or member status is NOT a favorable thing to do. There may even be a board rule about it, but I'm not sure. In any case, that's a definite no-no. Not just for newbies, but for everyone.
I get the feeling you were joking when you said that, though...
-MMoM Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
ahh...good call...and yet I am the one who isnt supposed to take everything i read so seriously. I was only referred to THIS category about yours truely. Otherwise, yeah I really havent made any irrelavent posts anywhere else....
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poet: Excuse me, I'm not picking on him (yet!). 8)
Uh...actually I was citing you as an example of someone that has been sniped , not as sniper yourself! Guilty concience? Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
*sigh*
Linking to other posts to "build a case" = crossing the line.
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