Have you heard this one? 60 years after the end of Voyager, Starfleet is commissioning the first series of transwarp/slipstream ships to explore the rest of the galaxy; including the Delta and Gamma Quadrants. Featuring a Romulan officer, and another alien from TOS as a crew member (rumours are Tellerite, Andorian or a TNG Bolian), the show would be back to the basics of TOS and TNG with the crew exploring new areas of the galaxy, encountering new species and old ones as well, The Voth, Krenim, Borg, Domninion, etc.
It seems by far the best rumour so far.
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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
In other words, the Next Next Generation, all we need to do now is find out whether it's on an Enterprise or not. But, methinks, too good to be true. . .
That does sound good!! Where did you here this one. It sounds far to creative for tptb.
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Well, there is one problem with this idea... And it's not really a problem (necessarily), but there's zero chance of them seeing consequences for whatever happens in one episode to the next. Even less so than on Voyager.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Ugh. A show that's "back to the basics of TOS and TNG" would be bad, since we've already seen TOS and TNG. You'd think they could be more creative.
The way I see it, this would be the likely premise for the next series...
Next Generation: Set up using stuff from TOS (Klingons, Romulans, Starfleet, etc.). Deep Space Nine: Set up using stuff from TNG (Cardassians, Bajorans, Ferengi, etc.). Voyager: Set up using stuff from TNG and DS9 (Maquis, Borg, etc.).
The next logical step would be for the next series to include stuff from Voyager, and the only way to do that is to have ships that use transwarp/slipstream technology (or something equivalent in speed).
And I'm not just saying that in hopes of seeing the Krenim in Series 5... Really I'm not...
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
I've seen this on www.warp11.com . I like the concept. I think we've seen enough of the 24th century.
Frank, the central concept may not be all that new but if the stories are creative and inventive, isn't that good enough? Better than a stagnant Flight Academy/90210 thing or a Utopia Planitia series that'll only give us more SWDAO and no real interesting stories.
This rumour's been floating around TrekWeb and some other places. I think that if we're seeing one ship with new technology and there are others (similar to the Enterprise being one of the first Galaxies in the early years) then there's plenty of chance to see repercussions from their stories. Maybe they can even get rid of that annoying little 'holes in space caused by warp' problem with a line or two about how great slipstream is.
It just seems to me to be back to what Trek is about; exploration, encounters, first contact, and those wonderful space anomalies. Besides, it'll give us all kinds of opportunities for new ships, starbases, etc.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Well, that's the problem; the stories have to be connected to the central concept, and we've already had ~250 episodes of that.
Maybe I've missed something, but this seems identical to rumors that have been floating around for years and years already. Heck, the idea that the next series would feature transwarp is as old as...well, as old as FASA!
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Krenim Imperium... *wants more Krenim!*
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Ooh! And did that say Voth? Melikes more...
But I still think Frank has a point, despite the fact that I'd love those races to have guest appearances or major roles...
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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
It would be an oppertunity to find out what happened to some of the races Voyager has encountered, and keep tabs on the Dominion, and find out what is on the other side of Romulan and Klingon Space.
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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :
I really like this idea.
*IF* they do it right.
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
It sounds better than most of the old rumours I've heard
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
While I would refuse a series in the 29th century (that would be too far ahead to be credible and wouldn't be Star Trek anymore) 60 years is acceptable. Yet, it would be better if it were only 10 or 20 years so some of the characters can be reused.
A series that introduces transwarp so that the whole Galaxy can be explored offers *a lot* of potential, much more than just a TOS/TNG sequel.
What happens to the Borg? They *must* be stopped some time. Maybe the writers find ways to handle this topic with more elegance than the endless fatigue Dominion War on one hand and Janeway's (fatigue as well?) hit-and-run on the other hand.
8472: They are completely different than any other race. They are mysterious, they come without warning. If the Borg are not scaring us anymore...
The Dominion. How will it develop? Will everything be fine in the Gamma Quad?
The Krenim. They do (currently) have a big empire. The Fed's friend or foe? Time travel episodes included (why not).
The Voth. Maybe the most interesting race. Will they come back to claim Earth some day?
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Posted by Starship Voyager on :
I think re-introducing the Voth in the next series is an excellent idea. Imagine -- what Chakotay said about bravery and courage finally making perfect sense, and the Voth, now firm in their belief that home is where the heart is, returns to the Alpha Quadrant to re-populate, if not re-claim, planet Earth. It's a potential storyline worth exploring. Reminds me of the Bajoran / Skreean conflict in the latter's claim to Bajor ... and we know how THAT turned out.
Er. . . how DID it turn out? The Skrreeans got fobbed off with another planet, and their hastily-appointed Moses figure declared in a fit of pique that Bajor WASN'T Kentanna. All it needs is for her to admit she was only kidding, and you've got a lot of pissed-off Skrreeans. I'm amazed they didn't think of that when they were looking for potential Dominion allies. . .
But the Voth could just work, on the other hand. These people KNOW they came from Earth, or they might soon do. . . and imagine the govenrmental machinery that was devoted to denying the Distant Origin theory now being turned to whipping up popular fervour for a return home.
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Posted by KXZ (Member # 119) on :
This sounds like a good idea. One concern people had about developing slipstream or transwarp is how fast you go. It would be too easy to get to another galaxy quickly. It took Voyager 17 seconds to go 10,000 light years in Timless. If the galaxy is 100,000 light years accross, that would take Voyager 170 seconds to cross the galaxy or just under three minute. So we should keep the fastest that the ships can go to about the same spped as in Hope and Fear. It can be possible to increase the speed, but it would be like TOS where research is still needed to reach speeds like in Timeless. Another thing to prevent the easiness of going to another galaxy is to have the Galactic Barrier go all the way around the galaxy. Does the barrier just go aroung the edge of the galaxy, or does it cover the 'flat surface' of the galaxy?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I'm going to be contrary, and say that this idea is really having a hard time appealing to me.
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Posted by Epoch (Member # 136) on :
Personally I really don't care what the new series is going to be about as long as the writing is good. Good writing makes most of the difference.
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
Tec's got a good point. I still like the rumour, though. The Voth thing definately has potential, too.
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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
Words of wisdom! Same here, If it's well written, I would watch "Flight Academy".
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
I agree. It has to be well-written (so as not to become boring) and it has to be recognizable as the brand "Star Trek" (so as to keep the fandom together).
Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
And given that it's Braga's series, it could have hope. Braga's probably the only Trek writer who could (at one point at least) write younger characters decently.
Not that I actually want it to be Starfleet Academy, though.
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Am I the only one who doesn't want to see a Starfleet Academy show?
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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
No, you're not.
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
I'm with you as well, Fabrux.
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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
As am I.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Down with the Academy! Down with the Academy! Down with the whole IDEA of a new series with-in the next 5 years!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenneth Biller - still writing on VGR - thats not the best of ideas - he IS responsible for some of the worst Star Trek RUBBISH of Season 2 and 3 Voyager!
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Biller did write "Before and After", but he's also responsible for things like "Demon".
But he was apparently a major creative influence in Season Five, so I'm optimistic.
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Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :
I'd like to see an alternate reality or whatever where Earth has been taken by the Dominion (or Borg). It could star Wil Wheaton.
I really like this idea but if it does become more than a rumor I'd like to see them NOT use any existing regular characters. EVER. I'd like to see a completely new crew, none of these eps where Scotty shows up on the ship because he somehow got frozen in a transporter beam for God only knows how long. I'm tired of the old characters.
Give us something fresh and new, with all brand new technologies for us to discover along with the crew of the new ship. And most of all, please don't let the writing slip sub-par! I gave up on Voyager and haven't seen a single episode since early 3rd season, it just lost my interest.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Dani!?! You shouldn't have stopped. Start again with "Before and After" and on to Scorpion for season three and from Before and After Voyager doesn't look back - its fantastic from then on... apart for one or two, which every show has... see "The Muse" DS9 or "Imaginary Friend" TNG
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
VOY season 4 was a massive improvement from the earlier seasons. Season 5 definately has its ups and downs. "Timeless" is one of my favourite Trek episodes.
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Yes. Dani stopped six months before she should have...
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Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :
I personally think "Flight Academy" is the most likely candidate for the fifth series. Not that I relish the prospect of a "dawson's Trek", it does fit in with the kind of network-thinking mindset.
"Fresh and New" eh? To me this says, either an unfamilar timezone, or a familar one seen from an unusual angle. I fear it may also imply a break from established continuity, as while we may consider the backstory of Star trek a rich tapestry to be exploited, an outsider could regard it as burdensome, and reject it via either a plot device like a parallel universe, or worse yet: without explanation!
I have a very bad feeling about this....
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
Voyager already gives me a bad feeling.
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