And I believe the names are pretty spot of - well at least for a few of the 'unknowns' that I can verify... I have the LP of the TMP soundtrack, and the inner sleeve has some pictures of aliens and their names, like the Rigellians etc...
I wonder where he got the names for the unknowns from Star Trek: IV and Star Trek: VI
Andrew
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
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"Kif, I have made it with a woman! Inform the crew!"
- Zapp Brannigan
Oooooooommmmmmm.......
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"Or maybe he was a real quack who got sick and tired of pissing people off, and decided to get a life and masterbate for the next 10 years."
- Me to Antagonist on Red Quacker, 03/08/01 20:15
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How embarrasing ;o)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/1558/UFP1.html
Its not the same as above, but I'll check that one out now!
Andrew
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
BTW, is Mars an independent UFP member, or is it still under Earth government?
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A possible point of evidence in favor of Martian independance are the "Fundamental Declarations" as mentioned in TOS. However, nothing was said about that document being a declaration of independance.
If I were to guess, I'd say no. Mars wasn't colonized until 2103, as per an episode of Voyager. That's only, uh, 58 years before the UFP comes into existance, which doesn't seem like enough time, to me.
On the other hand, I think there were more than a few fandom sources that listed Mars as one of the founding UFP members. (Though I am tempted to point out that, in the seventies, having a colony on Mars might have looked like a much nearer event than it does today. I fear the 2103 date is more realistic.)
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Andrew
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
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-Homer Simpson
A few points:
Alpha Centaurian:
AC is given surprisingly little attention in the canon Star Trek universe, while it is one of the nearest stellar neighbours. The only thing we know is that Cochrane relocated to AC after his discovery of CDP, so it must have been at least an Earth (or allied, i.e. Vulcan, Tellarite or Andorian) colony before 2117, the year Cochrane disappeared.
It was most likely not a founding member, but there is a possibility it later became a member.
Arcturians:
Where were these aliens seen, and what's up with the 'Clone' version? Finally, where did the planet-name come from?
Ariolo:
Fillandia? Where did that came from?
Bandi:
I doubt the UFP would've admitted them. They did play a dirty trick on 'us'!
Betelgeusian:
Where were they seen, and is that an actual picture, or a drawing by a fan??
Canopian:
Where did he get the info Lt. Nara is a Canopian from Canopus Planet?
Capellan:
BTW, what happened to the Prime Directive in "Friday's Child" (TOS) anyway? The Capellans looked pre-warp to me!?
Coridan:
Was there any clue to believe the little copper guys were Coridans?
Troyians and Elasians, Eminiari and Vendikari:
After the possible peace, they could've joined, but there is no further evidence.
Edoan:
Could 'Edoan' and 'Edosian' be the same? Because that would make Arex' race more or less canon: Garak cared for Edosian orchids in "Broken Link" (DS9).
El-Aurians:
Definitely NOT a member (though individuals are integrated in society). They were attacked by the Borg more than 50 years after official first contact with the Borg.
My theory is they live somewhere to the 'northeast' of the Typhon sector, possibly inside Romulan territory, and that somehow it took them fifty years to travel to the core of the UFP. But that wouldn't explain why Guinan visited Earth before that. Maybe the old El-Aurians had better technology (which was then destroyed by repeated Borg attacks, before the El-Aurians finally left their world(s) 50 yrs before the launch of the ENt-B)
(that worked out pretty well..)
Halkans
I doubt they were members, because the UFP had to *ask* for mining rights. If it was a member, they would've also wanted to mine, wouldn't they?
Ilyrian
Where seen? Why members? Where does name come from?
Legaran:
Sarek made *treaties* with the Legarans, which implies to me that they are not members.
Medusan:
Why should they be members?
Mizarian:
Apart from a few Mizarian civilians on the Enterprise-D (in "Generation", IIRC), is there any reason to assume they are members?
Rasiinian:
Episode? Why member? Origin of name?
Rigellians:
Where were the 'chelonoids' (what does that mean?) mentioned / seen?
is that an actual picture?
Therbians/Aaamazzarites:
Jack Bohn calls them Aaamazzarites on his page, so where does the name Therbian come from, and which one is correct??
Xenexians:
I assume this is a real Xenexian, from Mattel
Seriously, am I to assume Xenexians resemble Barbie-dolls!? I can't believe this is a real picture of one.
BTW, where were Xenexians supposed to have been seen?
Zeosian:
Where did that name come from? This is the webbed-feet guy from ST:VI, right?
Now, a few names of homeworlds:
Where did they come from and, are they generally accepted?
Arcturus IV for the Arcturians
Arken II for the Arkenites
Fillandia for the Ariolo
Betelgeuse II for the Betelgeusians
Althos IV for the Bzzit Khaht
Gemworld (!?) for the Elaysians
Kashet (I'd think Kasheeta was the name of both the species and the planet...)
Rhaandaran for the Rhaandarites
Xelata for the Xelatians
Xenex for the Xenexians
What about the Danteri? Episode? Why member? Origin of name?
And that's enough for one day.
If TPTB ever decide to do another UFP counsil scene, they'd better do some very, very good research.
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quote:
Arcturians:
Where were these aliens seen, and what's up with the 'Clone' version? Finally, where did the planet-name come from?
The first Arcturian is from The Search for Spock.
The clone is from TMP. Name from The Art of Star Trek.
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Ariolo:
Fillandia? Where did that came from?
Appeared in The Voyage Home. Name IIRC from FASA.
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Betelgeusian:
Where were they seen, and is that an actual picture, or a drawing by a fan??
TMP. Picture and name for the race from The Art of Star Trek.
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Ilyrian
Where seen? Why members? Where does name come from?
According to the book "Vulcan's Glory", Number One (Pike's XO) was from Ilyria.
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Rasiinian:
Episode? Why member? Origin of name?
DS9 The Muse http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/1558/ufpbio/Rasiinian.html
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Rigellians:
Where were the 'chelonoids' (what does that mean?) mentioned / seen?
is that an actual picture?
TMP. Name and picture from The Art of Star Trek.
quote:
BTW, where were Xenexians supposed to have been seen?
Not onscreen. This race is from Peter David's New Frontier series.
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Zeosian:
This is the webbed-feet guy from ST:VI, right?
Yupp.
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What about the Danteri? Episode? Why member? Origin of name?
A race from Peter David's New Frontier series.
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Purrr...
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
Speaking of which... how many times in early TNG was Pacifica mentioned... I wonder if this is just a world the Feds took over, or IT had inhabitants...
The Kai mentions Berengaria in "In the Cards" doesn't she?
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
The Enterprise was enroute there for a research assignment and shore leave in "Conspiracy" when Picard diverted the ship to Dytallix "B."
The Enterprise transported two Antedian delegates (in reality, assassins) and Ambassador Lwaxanna Troi to Pacifica for the admission hearing for the Antedian government in "Manhunt."
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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
(Besides, "30 Days" already gave us a "planet" that literally was a big ball of water...)
Pacifica features in the new Vornholt novels "Genesis Wave I&II", and (based on the spoilers I've read so far) is considered a remote sanctuary, a safe place to keep Carol Marcus hidden from the public view.
Some more info on Pacifica: judging by "Conspiracy", it is less than five lightyears from the real star Mira, also known as Omicron Ceti. *This* star has had a human presence for some time before the events of "Conspiracy": first there were those colonists led by Elias Sandoval in TOS "This Side of Paradise", and after Kirk forcibly evacuated them, Dytallix Mining Corporation set up shop on another planet in that system. However, by "Conspiracy", the system was empty.
So we know where Pacifica is: in a (formerly) well-traveled part of the Federation, some 150 ly rimwards from Earth. Now if we could just have a look... (Alas, "Genesis Wave" hasn't arrived yet to the local bookstores!)
Timo Saloniemi
It's apparently also used as Shore Leave ...
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Comments?
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I attempted a similar list awhile ago, though I stuck to mining the encyclopedia for my planets and systems and, I think, in one or two cases, nebulae. Where there is more than one inhabited planet in a star system, I just listed the star. So, for instance, I've got the Rigel system, which includes five such worlds, I think. Also, I cast my net rather wide when it came to considering whether a world belonged to the UFP or not. Essentially, if a world had a Federation installation of any sort on it, except where such a facility was explicitly stated to not be in UFP space (Such as the research station on Bak'u, although Bak'u itself was surrounded by the Federation, or so we were led to believe.).
At any rate:
�audet IX
Ajilon Prime
Aldebaran III
Alpha Carinae V
Alpha Centauri system
Alpha V Colony
Altair VI
Archanis IV
Ariannus
Arkaria
Babel
Barisa Prime
Benecia Colony
Benzar
Bersallis III
Beta Agni II
Beta VI
Betazed
Beth Delta I
Bilana III
Bilaren system
Blue Horizon
Bolarus IX
Boradus III
Borka VI
Braslota system
Bre�el IV
Brentalia
Browder IV
Calder II
Caldos colony
Capella IV
Camus II (a depressing place)
Carema III
Castal I
Catualla
Cestus III
Ceti Alpha system (on the assumption that the UFP wouldn't go around Genesisizing planets that didn't belong to them)
Cirrus IV
Coltar IV
Con Coroli V
Coridan
Corinth IV
Corvan II
Cygnet XIV
Cygnia Minor
Danula II
Delb II
Delinia II
Delos IV
Delta IV
Delta Rana IV
Delta Vega
Deneva
Deriben V
Donatu V
Doraf I
Draken IV
Draygo IV
Dulisian IV
Dytallix B
Sol System (a nice place to visit)
Earth Colony 2
Elba II
Forlat III
Galor IV
Galorndon Core
Gamma 400 star system
Gamma Hydra IV
Gamma Tauri IV
Gaspar VII
Gault
Guernica system
Halii
Iadara Colony
Inferna Prime
Invernia II
Ivor Prime
Janus VI
Jaros II
Jouret IV
Juhraya
Kavis Alpha IV
Kenda II
Kessik IV
Korat system
Memory Alpha
Minos Korva
New Gaul
New Halana
New Paris colonies
Norpin Colony
Ohniaka III
Parliament
Penthara IV
Persephone V
Planet Q
Quadra Sigma III
Qualor II
Regula
Regulus system
Relva VII
Rigel system
Risa
Salva II
Strnad star system
Tantalus V
Tarsas system
Tau Ceti system
Tessen III
Tiburon
Trill homeworld
Tyrellia
Velara III
Vulcan
Wolf 359
Velikan V
Rangifer II
Scylla sector
Sherman�s Planet
Tarod IX
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Gene Ray
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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
New Paris was on Makus III. Tasha was from Turkana IV.
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Fuck all those gun-toting
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Purrr...
Did "TFF" or "Total Recall" come out first... because both movies had the same 'joke'...
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
And "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" came before either STV or "Total Recall".
Timo Saloniemi
P.S. What was that game that she was drowned in? A Form of Dom Jot!?!
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
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You know, when Comedy Central asked us to do a Thanksgiving episode, the first thought that went through my mind was, "Boy, I'd like to have sex with Jennifer Aniston."
-Trey Parker, co-creator of South Park
--Jonah
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"It's obvious I'm dealing with a moron..."
--Col. Edwards, ROBOTECH
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"Fuck L Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting
hip gangster wannabes."
-Tool, Ænima
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L. Fitzgerald Sj�berg
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Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet" and something pleasent will happen to you. Possibly involving syrup.