I just watched Workforce Parts 1&2 and when Janeway said that she thought that dating her crew would be inappropriate, it seemed strange since Picard dated the head of Stellar Cartography onboard the Enterprise-D. Although Starfleet seems to allow officers to date, I wonder why there isn't a clearcut rule enforced.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
And Kirk nailed Helen Noel after the Christmas party.. to each his own i guess..
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I'm guessing that there's no strict official policy established, primarily because of the long-term nature of Starfleet's missions. Forbidding fraternization would not be a good idea.
Obviously, there's the possibility of a relationship interfering with the command functions of the ship -- and there probably ARE a few regulations there.
However, in the end I think it's probably left up to the Captain's judgment. Picard certainly didn't have many qualms going into that relationship -- it was only after the crisis that things got touchy. IMO Janeway would have been totally justified if she chose to have some relationship with a crewmember. (Please note that I am NOT one of those freaky J/C fanatics...) It was just her personal belief that a Captain should not have a relationship with a subordinate.
Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
Obviously, there's the possibility of a relationship interfering with the command functions of the ship -- and there probably ARE a few regulations there.
If so how come we haven't seen them? It took till after worf and dax had failed thier misson in change of heart for them to be barred from going on missions together. Even them it seemed to state that there had been specific orders to stop them going on missons together.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Hmm. How could I forget Worf and Dax?
That's one instance where any anti-fraternization regulations would have helped. Of course, the officers are people too, so they can't completely abandon all traces of a real life...
I think the key is, that the only time Starfleet would be concerned is where duty and relationships intersect. For Worf and Dax, it was never really a problem until they went on that dangerous mission together.
Actually, that answers a question about Janeway, in a way -- the Captains are ALWAYS on duty. Therefore, any relationship could potentially interfere with normal duties. (Note that I said POTENTIALLY -- it's still a POV thing.)
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
Besides, any Janeway-relationships would just frighten the viewers.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Yup, the class-action suit by viewers traumatized by the implications of "Workforce" and "Fair Haven" is, I gather, proceding apace. . .
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
There's also the fact that Janeway was in a somewhat unique position. She was stuck with this crew and they with her. There was no possibility of anyone transferring anywhere...I think that probably added to her hesitation about a relationship with a crew member.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
So basically, you can't exchange sexual favors with the Captain for a transfer to a competent ship equiped with a competent plotline.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Well, you can, but given the only other such ship near is the Equinox, which comes equipped with its own species of bloodcurdling-shrieking, evil-looking, hook-nosed bloodsucker, I don't see why you'd want to. 8)
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
Well, I'm sure there's a nice Talaxian freighter out there somewhere...
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Yeah, but that got assimilated by the Borg. Next!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Hate to harp, but is that a spoiler for the last 4 episodes of Voyager!?! The second last video comes out tomorrow.
Andrew
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Nope, it's a spoiler for "The Raven" which one suspects you've seen by now; in it Seven tells Neelix of a Talaxian freighter crew that was assimilated; their dense musculature makes for excellent drones, apparently. 8)
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
Now I can see why some of my friends see Janeway as frigid.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael_T: Now I can see why some of my friends see Janeway as frigid.
As opposed to 'hot'? Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
How would I know... I have my eyes on Kim. Anyway, I find it strange that for a captain who "bends" the Prime Directive she doesn't bend the fraternization codes.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Doing the steady wet boink with Chuckles or Seven isn't going to get them home any faster. PD elasticity might.
On the OTHER hand..if they could figure out a way to channel all the sexual energy into the warp drive when it finally gets released...
Yes, that's how the original Enterprise & the E-A were able to go so fast: they had supersecret Libido Drive to power them. All they did was plug Kirk in for a recharge once in a while. A more advanced system was on the E-D & they used Riker, while Defiant used Bashir, although he wasn't that effective. Voyager hadn't gotten theirs yet, so they couldn't use Tom.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
If only the NX-01 had a Libido Drive.. they would've gone transwarp right away!
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
quote:Originally posted by Harry: If only the NX-01 had a Libido Drive.. they would've gone transwarp right away!
I dunno, Archer seems to lack any libido to begin with, and T'Pol would probably rip the ship apart. You can stick Malcome in there, but the ship would probably chuckle and snicker its way back to Earth.
Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
i used to think that you people were all sensible.....since now i know the truth.....life is so much better now
but just thinking about relationships wit Janeway scare me....not that i think about having relationships wit Janeway
Buzz
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
How do you avoid sexual relationships from corrupting the chain of command aboard a starship?
1. Crew the ship with Vulcans (and remember to synchronize their Pon Far calendars for 1 month blow-off shore leaves on Vulcan every 7 years).
2. Crew the ship with TrekBBS members.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Option 2 would result in hourlong discussions in the mess hall concerning the geography of Hoshi Sato's genitals, but no actual sex.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Ok, now I'm curious.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
quote:Originally posted by Treknophyle: 2. Crew the ship with TrekBBS members.
"Look everyone, it's someone's attractive cousin!"
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Treknophyle: 1. Crew the ship with Vulcans (and remember to synchronize their Pon Far calendars for 1 month blow-off shore leaves on Vulcan every 7 years).
Do Vulcans HAVE to go back to Vulcania ( ) during Pon Farr or having a mate near-by would be sufficient? If they ALWAYS had to go back to Vulcan - they could only go 7 years in any direction.
Andrew
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Simon: Exhibit A, just came into being today. It'll eventually shuffle off its mortal coil, and another will take its place, thus continuing the great TrekBBS Circle of Life.
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How does that work anyway?
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Wow. Two hours and thirteen minutes into that thread, people were already saying that the mods were dropping the ball. That place is way too big for its own good.
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I enjoy finding new variations on options 3 and 4. 8)
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Hey! There're PLENTY of decent, well adjusted TrekBBSers...we just get out-shouted by the morons! Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Aren't we the regular Boston Bar?
I'd make a comment about Frank being Norm, but he seemed to bugger off just as I was starting on my "Frank is roughly as big as two large cars. And Jupiter" bit.
quote: Do Vulcans HAVE to go back to Vulcania ( ) during Pon Farr or having a mate near-by would be sufficient? If they ALWAYS had to go back to Vulcan - they could only go 7 years in any direction.
I can't believe that I've become Tim here, but...
No. They'd only be able to go 3 and a half years in any direction.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
You know when they say that 95% of the time, people who type "LOL" aren't really laughing out loud? Well this time is one of the 5%.
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) during Pon Farr or having a mate near-by would be sufficient? If they ALWAYS had to go back to Vulcan - they could only go 7 years in any direction.