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Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

I for one, was under the impression that Voyager's Deck 1 consisted of the turbolift, bridge, Captain's ready room, the briefing room, a couple of heads and the escape pods. Now maybe I have the Deck 1 schematic of the Enterprise-D imprinted on my brain (I don't actually recall ever seeing one for Voyager), but the maze of corridors shown on this episode seems like an awful lot to squeeze into the space behind the bridge.
Has this area ever been shown in a past episode?

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I haven't seen the ep yet, but the only things that should be on deck one (from the pics I've seen) are the bridge, a turbolift, the conference room, the ready room and maybe two small heads. Behind the bridge, the should be a central corridor that leads to the deck one escape pods located aft of the bridge and maybe two small corridors on the outboard side of the pods since there are small windows on the outer hull next to the pods I think. SO the corridors behind the bridge might at most look something like an "M" (assuming the top of the M is the aft most part of Deck One).

I think there's also a docking port or an airlock at the aft end of the deck.
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Here we go. I up loaded this blow up of the Voyager MSD. I hope it works. Go here:
http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/VoyMSD.gif

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Last I knew, Rick Sternbach was rather proud of trying to keep Voyager's specs intact. I highly doubt he would have drawn up a deck one diagram that didn't match the model.

Hopefully he wasn't sick the week they made this one, or something... :-)

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

So there was no mention of Lt. Ayala's quarters, jacuzzi and armory, then?

Mark

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Tuvok: "Captain I'd like a few moments to discuss the weekly Tactical report."
Janeway: "Not now. Meet in the jacuzzi on deck 1 in 10 minutes."
Tuvok: "The jacuzzi, captain?"
Janeway: "You know, it's right next to Ayala's quarters. Across from the escape pods..."

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Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

Well I guess it would be a good place to put one. Give the bridge crew a chance to relax during coffee breaks

Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Why not then just put a Starbucks next to the escape pods...

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

What do you mean? There are already 3 of them there already!

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

When Tuvok yells "Code Blue Stations" those Starbucks are manned and operational baby! Let's face it, when the ship lands, Conn, Stellar Cartography, and a bunch of other people sdon't have anything to do. It's coffee time !!

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Okay, now that I've seen the ep, I see the problem. They showed a regular corridor as part of deck one.

Yes, they screwed up. :-)

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

I thought that Chakotay took Gainweight...I mean Janeway off Deck 01 to another deck.

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

Nope. Chakotay took her through that side door and immediately into a corridor, still on Deck 1.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Right. And I believe the door he took her out of leads to the Captain's head. So let's assume that there is another door from the Head to whatever corridors actually exist on deck one. The corridor they exited into should've, at the very least, dead ended into the back of the bridge right away. There's no way that it went on as far toward the bridge as they showed it. And there's no way there's room for a turbo lift entrance on deck one anywhere other than the one on the bridge.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

In "Basics Part II" Cullah takes himself and his kid out through that same door, because the bridge was full of Paris & Talaxians. Since he eventually made it to an escape pod, it seems that the second door doesn't lead *just* to the Captain's head.

Mark

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

I would thing the head would be off the ready room, like Picard's. Otherwise, the captina has to walk out onto the bridge, and everyone sees her go in to use the toilet...

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Yes, Kaja forfend that a commanding officer has to drop a load in the same communal shitstall as the rest fo the crew....!

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Maybe they haven't perfected air fresheneres by the 24th century. Experience on the Galaxy-class made them put a short corridor between bridge and head.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Hey, I just watched the episode again and noticed something in the Astrometrics Lab; a new Alpha Quadrent map! I also saw it on Lineage.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Hmmm. That's interesting. In that time period they would almost certainly have made it to the Alpha Quadrant.

*makes mental note to re-watch tape*

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I had to resurrect this thing because I noticed something new about the Deck one layou ton Voyager. It's not big, but it's there.

In regards to the door to the port of the MSD on the back wall of the bridge, I think it's been well established that there is a curving hallway there that goes to the aft portion of deck one. Well, in "Work Force, we hear a door opening back there before the Doc walks in.

So the little curve dead-ends into a door. The door opens and you can probably only turn right and walk down the hall to the back of deck one. This hall way should have access to the conference lounge and the Captain's head/ready room. There should also be access to the deck one life boats and a ramp to deck 2.

Of course, "Shattered" seemingly established that there is no ramp...

Anyway...

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Maybe when the Mission Pack for Star Trek: Voyager Elite Force, we can see what the rest of Deck 1 is suppose to look like since it has a tour mode of all 15 decks.

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Posted by Soontir_Fel on :

With that expansion pack out, we can poke at every deck design problem there's been throughout the series. I only hope EVERY door can be opened.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

The door has been heard on several occasions. The only real question is why the door is all the way back there, instead of matching the stbd turbo door and giving the bridge a sense of symmetry.

Mark

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

What sort of a door is it? Can one identify it by the sound as a) a cabin door or b) a turbolift door or c) a cargo bay/holodeck door?

Obviously, there is just one turbolift shaft coming up to deck 1, with the upper end and the side alcove for the spare cab visible from outside (twin side-by-side shafts wouldn't make much sense, now would they?). But there's nothing to say the shaft couldn't have two or three doors in it on deck 1. One to the bridge, accessible when the lift is in the "side alcove" closest to the bridge. And then one to the curving corridor, and another one to the corridor from the Ready Room, both accessible when the lift is at the upper end of the actual shaft (in the position more aft and to starboard of the bridge than the "alcove"). People could be getting out of the lift at that station, instead of riding the remaining two-three meters to the bridge, for various reasons arising from the dark bowels of their minds...

Or what about this arrangement? The bridge has four main exits: the direct access to turbolift, the doors to Ready Room and Briefing Room, and the curving corridor that leads to the aft part of the deck and to the alternate turbolift doors. In addition, there can be Jeffries tube hatches. The Briefing Room has two exits: to the bridge, and to a curving corridor that actually ramps down to deck 2. The Ready Room has the same two exits: to the bridge, and to a curving corridor that ramps down, AND features a side door for access to Captain's Head. We don't perceive the ramping down in "Shattered" because a) artificial gravity allowed the builders to do it so that it doesn't look like a ramp or b) because there was a ramp between two doors, and the episode was cut so that we mistook the two doors for one.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

It's a "swoosh door" like a turbo lift/standard door. I think at least part of the corridor that leads to the aft part of the deck, if not all of it, has to go straight back. It looks like there's an airlock or EVA hatch back there from the MSD. As far as a ramp down, I'd guess there is one somewhere.

Man, it'd be nice if the creators hadn't farked up the sets so badly in "Shattered".

Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

There is an airlock on Deck 01, look closely at the aft end of the Voyager model; it looks like a cargo bay type door.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Yep.

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

I�m a bit lost when it comes to Voyagers deckplans, but I assume that deck 1 is topmost on the ship?
Since the bridgemodule is in fact detachable from the ship, the airlock would come in handy when docking. Or am I way of the mark?

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

ST: The Magazine reported in an article that the Deck 01 bridge module can eject, like what the ship in Galaxy Quest did near the end. If you look closely, there are RCS thruster packs around the module, although I doubt that we will ever see the damn thing eject.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Do you have a close up of those RCS packets? I'd like to see just how much is included in the bridge module. Is it the whole "Y" shaped section, life boats and all?