I seriously have been thinking over the past 24 hours since the airing of Caretaker last night. Also the Voyager Special afterwards also indicated that I will miss Voyager. It never really hit me until last night that in all seriousness that I never fully realized that in 2 days that Voyager will air its last and final episode. Afterwards there WILL be no Voyager movie probably because people will want to got to a Star Trek movie with a ship named Enterprise. I grew up with Voyager its the only Star Trek series that I watched all the way for the past 7 years. I was 10 when it aired and I have tohonest that after the first episode I stayed home so I could watch it again 7 years ago.
Also 'Enterprise' will premier in the ned of 2001 however I will be able to see the first couple of episodes, but three days after I graduate in June of 2002 I will be going into the navy so won't be able to watch the entire series like I have with Voyager. Also lets get into Series 6 because after Series 5, Ihardly think that anyone will want a 6th series.
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
As a fan who grew up with TNG when it aired back in 1987, I know how you feel. But at least you should have good memories of the series to take to the open seas. And not seeing series 5 is a damn good thing... it won't annoy you as much as it will annoy others here.
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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
::beats the living crap out of Michael with a big mallet::
Don't knock it 'til you've seen it!
::SMACK!::
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Posted by MIB on :
I know how you feel Matrix. Voyager first aired when I was 9 years old. It seemed like seconds ago. I saw EVERY single episode with the exception of 'The Thaw' which I heard was a crappy episode anyways. *sigh* I was still living up north in Wisconsin when Voyager first came on. I wish I still lived there now. *sniff* good bye Voyager! When Enterprise comes on, you'll never hear a continuity complaint from us again!
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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Actually, IMHO "The Thaw" was part of the elite "upper half" of season two episodes, as distinguished from the banal "lower half" (Threshold, Tattoo, Twisted or Cold Fire, anyone?)
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I liked Voyager from the beginning. I will feel the same sting I felt when TNG and DS9 went off the air. Although we are 20 episodes behind the US, so I'll prolly see "Endgame" in eight or nine months from now.
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Posted by Alshrim Dax (Member # 258) on :
I've been with Star Trek since TOS .. Been watching star trek since I was 7 years old (1977). It is the end of ONE MORE SAGA - only to pass the torch.
"ONce more onto the breech!"
Series V is the next one; will certainly not be the last !!
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Posted by Epoch (Member # 136) on :
I'm also finding it hard to believe that the end of Voyager is tomorrow. I started on TNG and have seen almost every episode from TNG ,DS9, and Voy the first time they ran. Voyager like TNG and DS9 before it will be missed.
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Yes, but there is a time and place for everything.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
For me after watching it, I realized that next Wednesday I will be watching not a new one but an old one I already saw. There will be no more seasons so the one I saw a few days ago is THE last.
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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I grew up on The Original Series and the movies featuring the original cast. The first movie I ever saw in a theater was Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. I was about four or five at the time. My mother was (and is) your average Star Trek fan. We'd occassionally watch the old episodes together.
I got hooked into Star Trek big time when I saw The Next Generation's "Time Squared" (during my fourth grade year). I stayed a devoted fan of The Next Generation right to the end of the series, and I was saddened to see it go. I watched Deep Space Nine get its start, but I didn't follow the first or second seasons. At this time, I started being the ultimate "band nerd" and had no time to watch. I started watching Deep Space Nine and Voyager with the same fervor as The Next Generation when they started, but I had to stop watching again as I entered college. My first roommate was the biggest anti-Trekker I had ever met.
Since being in college, I've alternated between being able to watch the shows to being too busy. But I did catch the last few episodes of Voyager, and I will miss it, too. I don't think it was the strongest of the Trek series, but I think it was still good television on many occassions. I will miss it. However, in the meantime, I can catch up with the reruns.
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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Agreed. Not the best television show ever - but in the upper 10%. So it beat Sturgeon's Law:
(90% of EVERYTHING is crap".)
Which is all we can ask of a television show.
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
I can bash Series V all I want Jeff, but I'll still watch it from time to time. It is a Star Trek series after all. But don't expect me to like it if the continuity is screwed.
Posted by Wes1701E (Member # 212) on :
More people crying about continuity. Its a TV show, enjoy it. Personally, they will only loose my attention if they state that Kirk was a chick, other then that, dont whine about continuity, it makes you sound in desprate need of a life.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
And when Wes says you sound like you need a life, you know you're in trouble. 8)
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
He, why isn't there a smiley attached to '8)'??
We do have one:
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Nope. '8)' is '8)' and that's how it will always be. It's nothing to do with astonishment anyway, it's just my smiley, my trademark. Something people overlooked during my many months as an obnoxious Australian. . .
Obnoxious Australian? Isn't that an oxymoron? No, the opposite of it - a redundancy, or something? 8)
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Oops.
I finally saw Endgame on tape.
I liked it. I didn't think it was Shakespeare, but I thought it was a good finale.
I'm not being obtuse - but what was all the shooting about? Better than average sci-fi.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
The shouting is for the most part about two things:
1) Trek should stay away from time travel. None of the ways they've shown it really match the other ways they've shown it. They need to find a "belief" and stick with it. As presented in "Endgame", it's unclear whether it's intended to reflect a new parallel reality or a sincle "corrected" timeline. If the latter, events would be self-terminating -- as soon as the transwarp conduit closed behind Voyager, everything would be reset to before Admiral Janeway's temporal rift formed.
2) We've known since the first episode that they'd get home. So for a finale, this left the producers with two viable options -- either they don't make it home after all, or we see what happens after they get back (fate of the Maquis, Janeway's probable inquiry, what happens to Seven and the Doctor, etc.)... Instead, we just saw them get back home. Wank.
--Jonah
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
But we did see, in rough sketches, what would happen. The Parises will be a nice happy family, Kim will get to pursue his career, the Doctor gets to become the galaxy's foremost artificial intelligence without a physical body, and so on. Trying to tack on something like a board of inquiry to the end would have, in my opinion, spoiled the whole flow of the episode.
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
Just because I watch Star Trek doesn't mean I don't have a life. I'm just obsessed with all the minor details in things which include my life.
Posted by Xanthi (Member # 576) on :
I'm going to miss Voyager too . It's what started it all for me and it's still my favourite. Although here in Australia it will most likely be over a year till we see Endgame so I have a year of Voyager left to enjoy
As for Enterprise, I will attempt not to bag it anymore, who knows it could surprise us all. But in any case it's all we have left besides our memories.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Simon: That's not all necessarily true. The Parises could end up totally different. For one thing, their kid is going to live her entire life in the "alpha quadrant", rather than spending her first sixteen years on Voyager. For all we know, Kim was supposed to be promoted during that time, and that's why he advanced later. Now he's returned to Earth still an ensign.
Basically, everything's different.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well of course things will be different. That's why I said "rough sketches."
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
But they aren't even that. What if, growing up on Voyager, Little Torres learns "discipline" and "order" and all that early on, and becomes a fine, upstanding Starfleet officer, and her parents are proud and happy and giggly and whatever (as we see them all in "Endgame"). But, in the new timeline, she grows up on Earth, w/ little exposure to Starfleet ideas except from her parents, so she turns into a rebellious kid and... I dunno... does bad stuff. The family is unhappy, Tom and B'Elanna break up, Tom kills himself by crashing his shuttle, Little Torres ends up in prison, and so on...
See how it can be totally different?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
All I'm saying is that the episode gave me the impression that the "real" future is going to be the alternate one but brighter.
Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :
Yeah, Deanna isn't going to die and Picard isn't going to have a degenernative mental disorder.
Oops--wrong time-traveling series finale. What I meant to say was:
Yeah, Seven isn't going to die and Tuvok isn't going to have a degenernative mental disorder.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
*L*
Posted by Wes1701E (Member # 212) on :
hehe i need to stop saying that people are gonna start taking it the wrong way. and DAMN RIGHT!
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