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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Oh boy... here comes a biggggggggggggy......

Someone on Psi Phi's board saw The Changing Face of Evil and provided the board with full spoilers...

http://www.psiphi.org/BBS/get/DS9/1743.html

It's um.. official... *gulps*....

USS Defiant
2371-2375
May she Rest in Peace

*dims forum lights for a moment of silence*

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��-The Breen at Internment Camp 371

Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

Yes! Go Damar!
...poor Deffie

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

*sighs* *takes off hat for moment of silence*

"Poor Enterforums-goers; they were quite fond of that ship..."

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"Audaces fortuna juvat."
"Fortune favours the bold."

Posted by LB4747 on :

Like the Phoenix, the Defiant will rise again...

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Lawrence Boucher
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
The important thing is not to stop questioning."--Albert Einstein

Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :

She was a tough little ship.

*Begin Kirk speak*

Of all the ships I've known in my travels, this was the most (strange mouth jerks) human.

*End Kirk speak*

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Garak: Interesting. You saved the day by destroying the world.
Bashir: I bet they didn't teach you that in the Obsidian Order.

-Deep Space Nine, "Our Man Bashir."

Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

*SNIFF!*

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Jeff Raven - Having more fun than any human being should be allowed to have

Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

I believe the real reason for the Defiant's fate was caused by a transfer of Vic Fontaine's programs into the Defiant's computer.

He is evil I tell you!

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by Federation Shipmaster (Member # 15) on :

I cannot help but laugh at Krenim's comment, but that sucks. Crap.

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What bloke invented signatures?

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Not to make things any more morbid or anything...

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��-The Breen at Internment Camp 371

[This message was edited by The_Tom on April 25, 1999.]

Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :

A moment of silence, please.

*bows head*

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Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

At least it doesn't look like they are gonna reuse the Valiant destruction footage :P

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Damn & tarnation.

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'Sir, you've been ordered not to take Polermo'

'Ring General HQ, ask them if they want me to give it back'.

Posted by Chimaera on :

Well, it was a good ship. But the fact that they are getting another (probably identical, except for the lack of a cloaking device) ship eliminates most of the sorrow I would otherwise feel. Unless, of course, someone important dies with the ship.....

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"Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you."
-Commander Riker, USS Enterprise

Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

*scrambles to get the inertial dampners back on line after the shockwave has hit* 8-O

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"I AM THE SPIDER!!!!"
- Vic Reeves

Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

BTW, I want to see the bang.
I need the closure...
I need (swallows heavily) to see the wreck for ID purposes...

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"I AM THE SPIDER!!!!"
- Vic Reeves

Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

Does anyone know if it's going to have another name?

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by Voyager on :

Big Spoilers!
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*bows head in moment of silence, in honor of the USS Defiant*

The Breen luanch a sneak attack on Earth, the Chin'Toka System fails back into Dominion hands, Sol'Bor is killed, Kai Winn and the now exposed Dukat have discovered the ancient text of the Kossta Mojjen, the USS Defiant is destroyed in a big explosion of a torpedo (But not before destroying several Breen ships), the Chin'Toka rescue fleet consisting of Klingon, Federation and Romulan vessels is destroyed, the Cardassians rise up against the Dominion after a big speech by Damar, the cloning facilities are destroyed, Admiral Ross promises Ben a new ship!

For those of you wondering, the Breen weapon knocked out all power and several Dominion weapons blew parts of the Defiant's hull away and after all hands report to escape pods and are away, the final torpedo blows the ship almost in half.

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One silly, twice foolish. -Dr. Weaver, ER

Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

I just watched this eppie a few minutes ago.

I DID cry when they abandoned the Defiant... I had previously been weakened by the shot of the Golden Gate... That SHOOK me... It's like seeing your house destroyed...

This is... Not good.

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Posted by monkeyboy on :

Speculations by me that the new ship that the new ship that replaces the Defiant will not be from the same class.

If it is, it will be extremely upgunned and souped up with new goodies like some new super weapon.
Stuff like that. New terms for a weapon that will keep us arguing for years, aka Tri Cobalt Torpedo.

I think they will bomb us with a new design. DROOL...

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I did'nt do it.

Posted by Simon on :

Wasn't there something about them keeping the Defiant sets up until the end of the show. If the new ship wasn't a Defiant this probably wouldn't be done.

Posted by LB4747 on :

Okay, I just saw the episode. Even after knowing for weeks about the spoiler, I was still left shaken after seeing the Defiant go down. I was getting sentimental even while watching the crew go through the startup sequence and seeing the Defiant leave DS9 one last time.

These last few episodes are going to be tough to watch.

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Lawrence Boucher
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
The important thing is not to stop questioning."--Albert Einstein

Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :

Some one please tell me if the basis of my new sig.file is correct. Thanks!

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All Sisko needs is ANOTHER tall ship and a star to guide her by.

Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

Essentially, yes. 8)

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"Adventure? Excitement? A Jedi craves not these things!" - Silent Bob

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Steer, I think, not guide.

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Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :

Like I said somewhere else, I'm not satified with how it went down. I think it should have been dishing out some punishment while it was taking some. It just flew by and let everyone take a free hit.

btw, I thought the shot of the Romulan Warbird in the background was breath-taking!

Before the comm. break; you could hear the radio, the music was real moody. I kept waiting for Sisko to say something and he never did. That scene was great! The music really added to that shot.
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All Sisko needs is ANOTHER tall ship and a star to steer her by.

[This message was edited by bryce on May 02, 1999.]

Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

I loved how the nacelles started to fall off...they did a wonderful job. I take back saying DS9 sucks and that I don't watch it anymore :P

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by Federation Shipmaster (Member # 15) on :

The Defiant? Tall?
The nacelles were hollow!

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What bloke invented signatures?

Posted by bryce (Member # 42) on :

It is believed the quote, "All I need is a tall ship and a star to steer her by" is engraved on the Defiant's dedication plaque. Was

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All Sisko needs is ANOTHER tall ship and a star to steer her by.

Posted by Brigman on :

As the Defiant left the station for the last time, the weight was almost palpable. I knew what was coming. I knew this was her last flight. Her last fight.

I watched as if watching from a great distance, although I moved closer to the TV as the scene unfolded. It was like an out-of-body experience.

It was like watching someone die.

"She may have flaws, but she has teeth."

I loved that little ship.

"LITTLE?"

As Worf might say, she died with honor.

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Peace!
Brigs

Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

Dammit people, You're all getting hysterical!
*slaps Brigman*

*slaps Frank*

*needs to be restrained*

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHhHhHHH!!!!!!

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"I AM THE SPIDER!!!!"
- Vic Reeves

Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :

Well, I posted this on The Buzz at Decipher Inc., but I think it deserves posting here:

"Here's the place the last words sent to the former USS Defiant, still drifting in Chintoka. May she rest in peace. She went down in battle, but her life was cut short with a cheap shot. It reminds me of the TCS Tiger's Claw in Wing Commander 2. Destroyed in a test of a new Kilrathi fighter. Needless to say, I sent that fighter straight to hell later in the game. Still, what a waste. It seems all the greats get cut short in their lifespan. The Defiant, original Enterprise (still the most emotional death in Star Trek), Enterprise-D, the White Star, Babylon 5 herself, the TCS Tiger's Claw, hell, even the TCS Concordia was shot down. She was invincible, but alas all good things must come to an end. May they and her crews all rest in peace on eternal patrol. "

Jaresh-Inyo: Permission to use Genesis Device on Breen Homeworld granted.

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Posted by Kalaar on :

"Changing the Face of Evil" caught me totally off guard. I was NOT prepared for the destruction of the Defiant...I hadn't even run across any scant rumors on the net. And the attack on Earth hit me pretty hard, too. Regardless of what people think about the episode's writing and directing, etc., this was a major turning point in this story arc. I hope Damar kicks some butt...I think the Cardassians are going to redeem themselves.

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-Kalaar

Posted by Kalaar on :

Err, "THE Changing Face of Evil," not "Changing the Face of Evil." Just a tad dislexic.

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-Kalaar

Posted by Federation Shipmaster (Member # 15) on :

I wasn't aware before the episode that it was goign to be destroyed, but when I saw that new footage, I was like "Oh, no....."

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What bloke invented signatures?

Posted by Golden Phoenix on :

Why do they have to destroy important ships ? As most of you must remember, the way the Entreprise-D was destroyed didn't make sense. An old Bird of Prey shooting multiple photon torps through Bid-D's shields ?

As for the Defiant's end, I find it very suspicious that the Federation never heard of this new Breen super-weapon...

But still, I grieve for this brave ship who fought till the end.

*bows his head*

Posted by Sunspot (Member # 77) on :

*whimpers*

*most likely MISSED this fecking episode > *

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"Chances thrown / Nothing's free / Looking for what used to be / Still it's hard / Hard to see / Fragile lives, shattered dreams..."

Posted by monkeyboy on :

reason why Bop was able to shoot torps through the Ent-D's shields was cause they were able to adjust their weapons to compensate for the Ent-D shield frequencies.

And reason why they kill all the great ships is cause it does great things for higher contreversy and much debate.

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I did'nt do it.

Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

Federation Never heard of new Breen super-weapon because nobody knows anything about the breen-DUH!
If they don't know what they look like, how could they know of (probably) their most secret weapon?