Just saw this at the store and picked it up: it's all short stories from across the Federation set during the Dominion War- stuff from the remaining characters from the Stargazer books, a story from New Frontier and some SCE stuff. 10 stories and a ten page war-timeline.
Anyone else got this yet?
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
The only ones I got were the ones they made a few years ago that had Sam Lavelle from "Lower Decks" and a little back story on Charlie Reynolds, the Captain of the Centaur.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Those were pretty bad though: Vornholdt at his absolute worst: Picard once again saves the entire universe (as in all Vornholdt's novels) singlehandedly....in those noves it's from a death-star sized aritificial wormhole generator that we just never heard of during DS9's run (because only Picard can possibly contribute to defeating starfleets enemies ) Yawn.
These look more promising as the stories are from across the Fed nad dont just center on "hero" characters.
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
And once again Riker manages to seduce some woman he will probaly never see again and this time she's another handicapped Borg survivor.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Didn't see this one while I was shopping last, picked up Stargazer: Enigma instead. I'll have to get the book before it though because I skipped that one.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Captain Boh: Didn't see this one while I was shopping last, picked up Stargazer: Enigma instead. I'll have to get the book before it though because I skipped that one.
The first story in the book involves someone named Gilaad Ben Zoma nad it's entertaining right up untill the last page.... when Picard rides in and saves the day. (yawn) I guess you know Ben Zoma wont croak in any Stargazer books now, dont you?
Fuck: in a Federation that would take 10 years to cross at Warp six, Picard is just fucking everywehere. Moreso, considering the Enterprise E aparantly did not a fucking thing during the war's major battles.
Posted by Nim the Plentiful (Member # 205) on :
They are the flagship!!! They must preserve their pristine ship and paint job. The dominion war buggies would play merry hell with their power harmony balance table in engineering.
Being ambassador sucks.
Posted by Bond, James Bond (Member # 1127) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Those were pretty bad though: Vornholdt at his absolute worst: Picard once again saves the entire universe (as in all Vornholdt's novels) singlehandedly....in those noves it's from a death-star sized aritificial wormhole generator that we just never heard of during DS9's run (because only Picard can possibly contribute to defeating starfleets enemies ) Yawn.
These look more promising as the stories are from across the Fed nad dont just center on "hero" characters.
Unfortunately it's still a little too much Picard & Co. for my tastes. There's three stories featuring the Enterprise crew, hardly overwhelming, but it would have been nice to have just say one story featuring them.
Was it really nescessary for Picard to be on Earth during the Breen attack for instance? Or the Enterprise to arrive in time to enter the fray (it was elsewhere while Picard was on Earth).
And some of the stories barely feature the Dominion at all, the Betazed one is 4/5'ths Lwaxana bitching about stupid minutiae in an interview with a writer and 1/5'th Jem'Hadar actually attacking Betazed.
Some of the stuff is enjoyable, but it's not groundbreaking fiction by any means, not even by Star Trek standards.
Posted by Pensive's Left testes for mayor... (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by Captain Boh: Didn't see this one while I was shopping last, picked up Stargazer: Enigma instead. I'll have to get the book before it though because I skipped that one.
The first story in the book involves someone named Gilaad Ben Zoma nad it's entertaining right up untill the last page.... when Picard rides in and saves the day. (yawn) I guess you know Ben Zoma wont croak in any Stargazer books now, dont you?
Fuck: in a Federation that would take 10 years to cross at Warp six, Picard is just fucking everywehere. Moreso, considering the Enterprise E aparantly did not a fucking thing during the war's major battles.
*slaps the Jason fool for being too Sarcastic*
all baldy did was tell him, don't be a hero, still rounding up Jemmies, we wacked the jemmie ship, while the Vorta is realising how punk'ed he finally was by Ben Zoma (even though you dont know who he is at first). how the fuck do you figure THAT 'Picard rides in and saves the day' ruins that story?
no answer? then STFU Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
If he has no answer, I'm sure it has less to do with a lack of a credible arguement, and more to do with what the fuck are you talking about?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Dude, Star Trek books are so awesome.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:Anyone else got this yet?
Yep, but I haven't finished it yet.
The one with Gilaad Ben Zoma A bit disappointing. That Starfleet Officer at the end of the story could've been anyone. After reading the introductory text I thought we'd learn a little bit more about the doings of the Stargazer characters during the war.
The one with Lwaxana Troi Wasn't that bad but it didn't feel right that the writer killed of a secondary character.
The one with the Breen attack Just skimmed through it but I think it's quite a stretch of credibility to name all crewmembers of the USS Columbia after the crewmembers of the spaceshuttle.
The one with Scotty and McCoy A little bit cheesy and patriotic for my taste.
The one with Kebron Loved it. Had the typical NF humour.
quote:Unfortunately it's still a little too much Picard & Co. for my tastes.
For we didn't see or hear anything about the Enterprise-E's missions during the Dominion war on-screen, I was quite content with three stories.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I guess you know Ben Zoma wont croak in any Stargazer books now, dont you?
I worked that out when he was in a comic by Friedmen which seemed to be to take place towards the end of Picard's time on the Stargazer. Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
quote:The one with Scotty and McCoy A little bit cheesy and patriotic for my taste.
A little chessy, yes. It also seems to contradict the other Breen attack story.
The one with Shinzon. The most "War Story" of the lot. Also make a valiant effort to explain Shinzns background.
The one with Spock Didn't really have a lot to do with the Dominion War. Unless you're interested in Romulan internal politics skip it.
The SCE story. Star Trek take on "U-Boat 57" but still ok. Second most "War" Story.
The Klingon captain story. Basic Klingon story. Lots of talk of honour and fighting. What you'd expect.
Resse's Story. Resse, the guy with the knife in "Seige of Ar-558", hangs around in the background of WYLB. At least it dealt with the anger that some of fighters would have felt for the female Founder.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Pensive's Left testes for mayor...:
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by Captain Boh: Didn't see this one while I was shopping last, picked up Stargazer: Enigma instead. I'll have to get the book before it though because I skipped that one.
The first story in the book involves someone named Gilaad Ben Zoma nad it's entertaining right up untill the last page.... when Picard rides in and saves the day. (yawn) I guess you know Ben Zoma wont croak in any Stargazer books now, dont you?
Fuck: in a Federation that would take 10 years to cross at Warp six, Picard is just fucking everywehere. Moreso, considering the Enterprise E aparantly did not a fucking thing during the war's major battles.
*slaps the Jason fool for being too Sarcastic*
all baldy did was tell him, don't be a hero, still rounding up Jemmies, we wacked the jemmie ship, while the Vorta is realising how punk'ed he finally was by Ben Zoma (even though you dont know who he is at first). how the fuck do you figure THAT 'Picard rides in and saves the day' ruins that story?
no answer? then STFU
It's just stupid that his old C.O. (whom he's VERY casual with) would be the one who's ship disabled the orbiting Jem'Hadar ship and was there to liberate the planet. After all, starfleet only has six or seven ships, so it's likely that the flagship would be out in the backwoods of the Federation to save a non-federation planet.....there's nothing better the Flagship could be doing, right?
From a DS9 storyline POV, I think there's a potential story for Enterprise E leading the fleet's assualt on the Dominion Shipyards (at the same time DS9 fell to the Dominion- Enterprise could've suffered damage in the attack-making the altered look of the ship in INN plausable and explaining why it's absent from the major battles), but placing Enterprise at every major engagment- and us never hearing a word about it) is pretty dumb.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: [QUOTE] The one with Gilaad Ben Zoma A bit disappointing. That Starfleet Officer at the end of the story could've been anyone.
I think it would've worked better if they kept the starfleet officer ananomous- like the a Wells story- we could have seen the Dominion from a typical starfleet officer's POV without the tie to a particular series and definitely without Picard being involved.
Anyone read the graphic novel "The Gorn Crisis"? I skimmed it at the bookstore but it looks pretty bad. It's also supposed to explain what Enterprise E was doing during the war- trying to enlist the Gorn against the Dominion (because they're players-we just have not heard from them- really!)
Posted by Pensive's Left testes for mayor... (Member # 1203) on :
quote: Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote: Originally posted by Pensives's Left testes for mayor...:
quote: Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote: Originally posted by Captain Boh: Didn't see this one while I was shopping last, picked up Stargazer: Enigma instead. I'll have to get the book before it though because I skipped that one.
The first story in the book involves someone named Gilaad Ben Zoma and it's entertaining right up until the last page.... when Picard rides in and saves the day. (yawn) I guess you know Ben Zoma wont croak in any Stargazer books now, don't you?
Fuck: in a Federation that would take 10 years to cross at Warp six, Picard is just fucking everywehere. More so, considering the Enterprise E apparently did not a fucking thing during the war's major battles.
*slaps the Jason fool for being too Sarcastic*
all baldy did was tell him, don't be a hero, still rounding up Jemmies, we whacked the jemmie ship, while the Vorta is realizing how punk'ed he finally was by Ben Zoma (even though you don't know who he is at first). how the fuck do you figure THAT 'Picard rides in and saves the day' ruins that story?
no answer? then STFU
It's just stupid that his old C.O. (whom he's VERY casual with) would be the one who's ship disabled the orbiting Jem'Hadar ship and was there to liberate the planet. After all, Starfleet only has six or seven ships, so it's likely that the flagship would be out in the backwoods of the Federation to save a non-federation planet.....there's nothing better the Flagship could be doing, right?
From a DS9 storyline POV, I think there's a potential story for Enterprise E leading the fleet's assault on the Dominion Shipyards (at the same time DS9 fell to the Dominion- Enterprise could've suffered damage in the attack-making the altered look of the ship in INN plausible and explaining why it's absent from the major battles), but placing Enterprise at every major engagement- and us never hearing a word about it) is pretty dumb.
Simple: They get paid more if the E-E is where the editor or the Paramount Lackey tells you where it should be
but I agree in principle, they could have just used a generic ship and it would have been just as exciting. thing is, you and me might bitch about the E-E being there but Mrs. Joessethette Bigass buying the book for her 400 lb brat might bitch why the E-E Isn't. The most common denominator is that you make things as dumb as possible for the widest audience of stupid people... usually. Darwinism's still exist and remain in practice to some products, ensuring stupid people will continue to die for the cause Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:I agree in principle, they could have just used a generic ship and it would have been just as exciting. thing is, you and me might bitch about the E-E being there but Mrs. Joessethette Bigass buying the book for her 400 lb brat might bitch why the E-E Isn't.
Yeah, but the novel's gatefold expounds on how it's "tales from across the federation" when it probably should say "tales of the motherfucking Enterprise and it's tired, overused characters from across the federation".
Man, I cant wait untill the new DS9 book comes out in January: the last one was really good (the cardassian part at least).
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