Hookay! I decided that I'd rather make a new thread than sift through three others for your opinions on this revised version episode. Here's what I wrote in one of the other threads:
quote: I saw Balance of Terror! I guess I missed Miri (but that one sucks anyway).
It was really very good with a couple of exceptions:
The good: Enhanced picture is great to see- everything is crystal clear and I noticed many intresting lighting techniques for this episode- like them shading all of Kirk's face exceept for his eyes in a kind of "reverse racoon" pattern.
The GREAT: the new Enterprise shots are so good and generally match the original's shots...except for when the ship gets nailed by that "debris nuke"- then the ship is listing badly. The RBOP is very VERY nice- an exact replica of the original (no matching the one Eaves made) except in one shot where you can see various hull panels in a sort of checkerboard pattern (not quite the "aztec" of a federation starship, but the general look is close). The plasma weapon is new and looks much better- a big red ball of flame.
Disapointing:
No new computer screen shots- we're forced to look at the horribly dated cardboard diagram of the Neutral Zone and it really does not match the crispness (newness?) of the show. The RBOP just "fizzles" into cloak (like the original version) when the pattented cloaking effect would have been much better. No new background for the outpost's interior we see- the commander still looks to be hailing from a broom closet. The phasers still look and act like torpedos- bright blue blobs from vaguely the correct spot that (somehow) blow up into big blue coronas of light as they sweep the area for the RBOP.
Nothing to say it's new or improved at all! NOTHING! If they'd announce it was the NEW version, people would watch- as it stands, most will tune it out as "the same old thing".
The timeslot sucked ass- 6AM on what is the WB for one more week- nothing known after that.
There: Everyone (except Andrew in The Phantom Zone) has had time to see this by now (or not, as scheduling seems to be based on nothing)...what did you think?
Anyone else seen it yet?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Anyone aside from everyone who already talked about it in the thread where you already posted this, you mean?
If "Miri" is on tonight I will say something about it here, and then what sort of counterclock world will we be in?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I only saw two or three people (tops) discuss this episode in another thread- people that actually saw the episode. ....there were plenty that said "I'll watch it tonight" and never posted in though....Right Charles? Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Of course, as it turns out, tonight failing to be Sunday puts a dent in my plans.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
There's always next week, Brain.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I was going to watch, but I work Sunday mornings and setting the VCR is such a pain... Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well like I said in the other thread, didn't the Bird of Prey seem somewhat inflated?
Posted by Lurker Emeritus (Member # 1888) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: Well like I said in the other thread, didn't the Bird of Prey seem somewhat inflated?
It's the secret new helium powered version. Otherwise where do they get those big balls of flaming gas that they shoot at other ships? Perhaps the engineering crew stuff themselves full of curry the night before?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Then those phaser charges the Enterprise fired were full of beano!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Yes- has anyone come up with a plausable Treknology explanation for this?
Bernd?
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
Oh sure go to someone clever and qualified and Scandanavian. I'm telling you it's big balls o' plasma. Phaser bubbles. Not so fast as a "beam" but oh, what a wallop.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
What I mean by inflated is that the BOP's profile is more rounded that from what I remember. As for the plasma weapon, it reminds me of what's inside a lavalamp.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Sorry for the double post, but I saw "Devil in the Dark". Very disappointed. Only the Enteprise, the planet Janus, and the matte painting of the colony, were cgi rendered. The phaser effects were the same as well as the transpoter effects. To quote the Horta I was left in "Pain! Unspeakable Pain!". Oh and the CGI Background looked just as bad as the original matte painting.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Bernd is German. Nim is the only Scandinavian we have that I can think of offhand. Unless you count Timo's Icelandic alter ego.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
That matte painting was gorgeous! Or maybe it wasn't, I don't recall, but they usually were.
"Devil in the Dark" actually has the best new effect so far, namely the shot of the Enterprise at the very end, where the camera actually, surprise!, tracks the ship as it leaves. Something they couldn't really do at the time, and it looked very nice.
It was more than just updating the contents of the shot, in other words, and it worked well.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
They couldn't fix the phaser shots?
Anyone got any caps of DitD?
I think Devil in the Dark is one of the best TOS episodes.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Hmmm for better or for worse - the Horta is so CLEAR! Wow! I can't wait to see these episodes! Especially in Hi Def.
Oh and here Eden FX have weighed in how they would have done things - some really nice pics here too. I don't know what to think about the CGI'd Enterprise towards the bottom.
Eden FX Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
The images look nice, but I think the texturing on the Enterprise is way too heavy.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Upon further review I do retract my statement of the Janus colony CGI Background and I will admit it does look nice, but its really nothing spectacular. I was just really angered that the phaser effects received no change since they look so horrible.
I mean c'mon
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
The Eden shots do look very pretty, but even taking into account the fact that they're supposed to be realistic, rather than authentic to TOS, the 1701 is too heavily textured. One of the things that makes the ship so elegant is that you can't see all those seems and panels.
If the next film does end up having the Constitution in it, then I'd prefer something half way between the Eden FX look and the look in IAM,D.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Oh and here Eden FX have weighed in how they would have done things - some really nice pics here too. I don't know what to think about the CGI'd Enterprise towards the bottom.
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