I'm tempted to recant my previous vow not to insult Berman and Braga. THIS is their idea of a "fresh and exciting" Star Trek series? A transporter accident is about as fresh as a gallon of milk that's been left out in the sun all day! And the victim is turned invisible? Gee, where have I heard THAT one before?
*sigh*
(Counts to ten, slowly...)
I will NOT hurl insults. I will NOT write expletives. I will NOT...
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
I'm none too impressed either.
It seems especially weird considering Braga's gone on at some length about how he was none-to-proud of the eps like "Oasis" that squeaked out last year with unoriginal plots; going so far, IIRC, as to say that he was actively trying to weed out potential rehashes early in the development process this year, before time pressures kick in and they simply have to go with them.
(shameless optimist notes: The possibility did cross my mind that TPTB have finally played their ace and set us up the bomb that they've publically ruminated over for years, namely releasing dud casting info [I'm pretty certain most spoilers these days are being cribbed from casting stuff] in the hopes of fucking with the online news cabal. But that's my nattery don't-violently-hate-people-you-don't-know apologist side kicking in. Ignore it at will.)
Or they're just working on a terribly unoriginal episode. In which case I'll reserve judgement till I see the finished but mutter grumpily until then all the same. It's not even like the fans really loved "The Next Phase."
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
the next phase had too many problems to be good. how the hell did they stand on the non-phased floor, or breathe the non-phased air? has some good scened, though.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Yeah, I know it's just a rumor at this point. But I've been reading Trek Today for three years now, and they've rarely been wrong when publishing pre-production details.
That's the thing that annoys me the most, though. Berman and Braga have been bragging for a year now that Enterprise is going to be fresh and new, that it's going to reinvent the franchise. Braga's commented on the "poopy" episodes -- and in that interview he specifically referred to "misfired concepts."
Well, if the report on this episode premise is even halfway accurate, this misfired concept is going to blow up on the launching pad.
*grumbles*
Transporter accident. "Fresh ideas," my ass...
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Bloody hell. They do the "Oh, look, I'm totally invisible and no-one can hear me but if I thrust my hand through a piece of electrical equipment it short-circuits!" routine! I've seen that so many times, I'm having trouble remembering (or distinguishing between) them all! Seven Days. . . an Outer Limits ep. . .
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
One of the many reasons why I am not even bothering to give Enterprise a chance. Besides, it's on a horrible timeslot: Law and Order or Enterprise, what should I choose?
Yes, I know, newer eps are on once a week on Wednesdays, I'm still trying to find a channel that will broadcast L&O every day....
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
doesn't A&E show law and order every day?
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Obviously, you missed Tahna's thread. The Superstation or TBS or one of those bought exclusive rights to Law & Order.
Er. Wasn't there an L&O spin-off before SVU that failed and was cancelled?
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
1. "Early script." Obviously, this little phrase has gotten by most of you. Didn't you learn anything from reading the various Companions and interviews and such about script development?
I'm just saying it's a bit early to form opinions about a show that hasn't even finished being written yet.
2. There's obviously more going on than simple invisibility here. Reread.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
yeah, according to the A&E website, law and order no longet plays on that station. too bad if *gag* tbs got their hands on it.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by First of Two: [QB]1. "Early script." Obviously, this little phrase has gotten by most of you. Didn't you learn anything from reading the various Companions and interviews and such about script development?
I'm just saying it's a bit early to form opinions about a show that hasn't even finished being written yet.
Yes, if you reread MY post, I do mention that it's still apparently in the preliminary stages, and only a rumor. But like I said, Trek Today has been pretty reliable for most of these kinds of reports.
quote:2. There's obviously more going on than simple invisibility here. Reread.
Why yes, there IS more going on than simple invisibility.
Crewmember(s) turn invisible in a transporter accident, can walk through walls but not fall through the floor.
Evil aliens try to sabotage the ship.
Funeral scene and/or characters react to the appareant death(s).
The invisible crewmember(s) discover that if they stick their hands in stuff, they can signal their comrades and let them realize that they're alive.
Hopefully this should sound familiar? We're on a Star Trek board, after all. Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
I have a feeling "Vanishing Point" will be Enterprise's "Threshold."
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
But even as ridiculous as "Threshold" was, at least its plot wasn't a rip-off of an episode from a previous series.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Then again, I'd have preferred Threshold if it were a ripoff of a previous series' show. Except, perhaps, a ripoff of "And the Children Shall Lead" or something.
The horror.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
please don't mention and the children will... *BARF*
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Actually, the whole invisibility thing seems to hapen gradually - it seems more akin to, er, that TNG ep, "Remember Me" I think it was. But come one, let's face it, we've seen it before. I ask you - if you ever find yourself invisible, inaudible and noncorporeal, hands up who'll immediately start shoving their hands into people's computers, microwaves, etc., just to see what happens?
*everyone's hand goes up, and the overhead light sparks*
Thank you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go work on some way to return Elim Garak to this plane of existence. 8)
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
Where is that guy, dammit?
Posted by O Captain Mike Captain (Member # 709) on :
last i heard, after the Dominion Accords, he was spearheading the relief efforts for the survivors of the holocaust on Cardassia Prime for the provisional government there, although some think its just a front for his setting up of a new intelligence network.
or did you mean someone else?
Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
I meant this guy.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Bit of a mystery, isn't it? Probably the most total and abrupt disappearance of a significant member of these Forums. I occasionally speak to Adam Bauer (his colleague over at the now-defunct TNO Forums) but I can't recall whether we ever discussed what happened to young Mr. Embley. . .
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