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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Does anyone know who designed these ships?

Prometheus-class
K't'inga Battle Cruiser
Negh'var Attack Cruiser
Jem'hadar "bug"
Jem'hadar Battle Cruiser
Jem'hadar Battle Ship ('Valiant')
Hideki Fighter
Romulan Scout/Science
Romulan Runabout

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I don't know who designed them, but what I do know is that the Prometheus was based on an early Voyager concept.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

If your thinking what I'm thinking the Dauntless from 'Hope and Fear' is more like that early Voyager design.

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Actually, Sternbach recently mentioned that the Prometheus is not based on that early Voyager model. There aren't any similarities anyway, besides the triangular "saucer."

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Ah, okay.

Back to the main question: I think the best way to approach this is by grouping them by series.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

The engines on the Prometheus are similar to those of an early Voyager concept model, I think.

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

I'd say the engines on the Prometheus were direct copies of those from the Enterprise-E. . .

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Enough about the Prometheus.

Isn't there someone who can awnser the original question??

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Well, I'll take a stab at some of them. (Those that I can remember, anyway, having already clicked the post reply button.)

The K't'inga class was simply a more detailed version of the old D-7s from TOS. As such, it was essentially designed by Matt Jeffries.

Ok, I forget the rest.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Prometheus: Um... Might be Sternbach. I'm not entirely sure.

K't'inga: Well, like Sol said, it was just a more detailed version of Jeffries' D7, but I believe the changes were designed by Andy Probert.

Romulan science ship: Being from the early TNG years, this might have been another Probert, but that's just a guess.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Damn, someone must know these. Here are my own guesses:

Prometheus - Sternbach
K't'inga - Probert
Negh'var - no idea
Jemmy Bug - Martin
Jemmy Cruisers - Eaves
Hideki - Martin
Rom Scout - Probert
Romabout - Eaves

Alternative suggestions welcome.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I'm almost certain Sternbach designed the Prometheus.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Oh, and now that I think about it, the Romulan scoutship didn't show up until the third or fourth season. Probert was long gone by then. His designs include the D'deridex and the Ferengi Marauder, though. Not that those are on the list, but...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Well, Probert also designed the Ambassador, which didn't show up 'til the third season...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I looked it up, the Romulan scout was designed by Sternbach.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Wouldn't it be likely that Sternbach did the Romulan runabout ("In the Pale Moonlight") as well?

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Thanks Sol for confirmation of the Prometheus and the info on the RomScout.

I think the Ambassador was based on an early Ent-D design by Probert.

The Romabout isn't necessarily by Sternbach. Eaves was the senior illustrator at DS9. Voyager is Sternbachs department.

Posted by Starship Voyager on :

The Voodieh we saw in TNG's "All Good Things" was designed by Rick Sternbach, so it's safe to say that its Negh'Var counterpart shares its roots.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Yes, the Voodieh and Negh'var are practically the same class. The Negh'var is a slightly modified version of the Voodieh studio model. This is the same situation as with the Galor and Keldon classes.