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Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :

Saw version 3 of the Encyclopedia today. Would have picked it up too, if it weren't for the $60 price tag. Not much as far as starships go in the supplement section. We see the dedication plagues for the Valiant, the Prometheus and the Cousteau. There is an entry for the Nautilus (and I would assume the ShirKahr as well). The entry for the T'Kumbra doesn't give a registry. The only artwork for the entries on the Dauntless and the Prometheus are pictures of the MSDs. The picture from the DS9TM is used for the entry on the Centaur. The comparison chart is put in the supplement section but remains unchanged. The Dominion battlecruiser is still upside down. There is a side-view picture of the Dominion battleship, called simply the warship. Also color topviews of Son'a ships. All in all I like the supplement section but is it worth 60.00?

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Cousteau?

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

The Ent(-E) Captain's Yacht

Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

That was the name of the D's, wasn't it? *scratches head*

Where'd this name come from, anyway?

And why does a fancy runabout have a dedication plaque?

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

The first Captain's Yacht was unofficially called "Calypso," for the research ship commanded by Jacques Cousteau. Going by tradition, however, it should have been called the Captain's Gig.

Cousteau, of course, is obviously for that famed oceanographer.

How it rated its own dedication plaque? Beats the heck outta me.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Well, I could've guessed it was named after Jacques Cousteau, but I was wondering where the non-canon name came from. What's the authority on it...?

Guess I wasn't all that clear.

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

Well its dedication plaque only has the name and a quote, nothing else.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Almost like the SS Raven. BTW, what does the Encyclopedia say about the Raven???

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Woah, finally a Senior Member. I always wondered how long that would take

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

It says the Raven is a Starfleet ship, and the NAR registry was sort of a mistake.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

The Raven's registry was a mistake? My @ss!!! It was NAR in "Raven" and even when the ship was sketched out in "Dark Frontier" it said NAR in the storyboards. Anyone scan the MSD of the Prometheus or of the Dauntless yet? I'd like to have it.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

The NAR registry: whose mistake, TPTB's or Starfleet's?

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

The art department. See, there's the problem; artists are in charge of technical details. The world needs fewer artists.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Sounds to me like it was a general mistake. They didn't know they wanted it to be a Starfleet ship back then.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Ooh, good logic, Frank.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Elim: That's what the encyclopedia says.

Sol: On the car of life, artists are the stereo system and rear spoiler. Neither of which are much use if the engine doesn't work.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

You sound like a car commercial.

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

Yep, that's right. Come on down to Gerratana Auto, we got all the best deals. 8)

Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

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Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

Whadda ya mean it's still got upside-down ships, negligible new pics etcetera?!

Goddawn uselss...(lapses into frantic Donald Duck tantrum)!!!

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

I always believed the ship wasn't supposed to be Starfleet until they decided otherwise for Dark Frontier. It would have made more sense, since I would expect a Starfleet crew on a Starfleet ship. In addition, there was no necessity to make it a USS.

Anyway, if we may blame the artists...

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

I found the EncycIII today, haven't acquired it yet, though. I never bought the EncycII so it wouldn't be a loss to me, except that there are other books I'd like to see first.

I'm dissapointed in you, I really am...Seriously. Nobody even mentioned the fact that it was Doug Drexler who designed the Chaffee. Which makes it all the more likely that the shuttle is a tad over seven meters long, as shown in the Defiant blueprints.

BTW, our Dick Tracy makeup artist who became a scenic artist is now working as a CGI artist for no other than Foundation Imaging. Mike Okuda mentioned that yesterday in the chat, and it was to be expected after he did some prelim-shapes of the Breen ship for CGI folks to build on. I seriously feel the need to contact this guy...

Boris

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Anyone scan in the dedication plaques for the USS Prometheus, the Cousteau, the USS Defiant NCC-75xxx, or the USS Sao Paulo? I was wondering if someone did already.

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Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :

So what new registry/class information was included in the new Encyclopedia other than the stuff about the Raven, etc.

Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :

Any body got scan pics of ships from ENCYC3

Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

There are only 2 dedication plaques in the new section. USS Prometheus and Cousteau are the only plaques, and the Cousteau plaque only says:

*enter modern Starfleet logo here*
COUSTEAU

U.S.S ENTERPRISE * NCC-1701-E
JEAN-LUC PICARD, CAPTAIN

"The future is in the hands of those who explore...and from all the beauty they discover while crossing perpetually receding frontiers, they develop for nature and for humankind an infinite love" - Capt. Jacques-Yves Cousteau

As for new ship pics, there are none. Just Nebulas, Mirandas, and Excelsiors.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. There is the Dominion Dreadnaught (warship as they call it), color pics of the Son'a Science, Command (Scout), and Cruisers, yet no fighters.

Also, a picture of a Defiant class ship labeled as USS Valiant, the new Romulan Shuttle, the Type-10 Shuttle, and a Caatati ship (which I don't remember).

I also forgot there is the plaque for the USS Valiant

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

The Caatati ships were in Voyager's "Day of Honour" (*ducks from Krenim wrath at the mention of that episode*). They used thorium isotopes to power their ships' systems, and Seven provided them with a converter so that they could get their crippled fleet up and running... Right?

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Posted by Starbuck (Member # 153) on :

Um... I can't get the new Encyclopedia yet... damn US release schedules.
However what I *DO* have is a load of official exterior schematics, including the Prometheus and the Dauntless. As soon as I get my new PC working I will scan them. (Damn Windows '98. I only had it 2 days and already it is so screwed up! Note to Bill Gates: "From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.")

I'm thinking of putting them on a website. I'll keep you all posted, but copies of those MSDs would be appreciated!

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Official MSD's??
Put 'em on Flare please!

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Posted by NeghVar (Member # 62) on :

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I am convinced this is a flub...the Command ship never entered the atmosphere? Though the "Scout" size fighters did have atmospheric capability...?

My thought is...not everyone at Paramount is on the same page...that is for sure.

My humble thoughts...

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