Hello Everyone, I'm new to this sort of thing and I just wanted to try to start a good topic. Everyone has seen that the registry number on the Prometheus-class U.S.S. Prometheus (my personal fave) is NX-59650. But I found a dedication-plaque at the LCARS Communications Network that states the registry number is NX-74913. The number ON the ship seems rather old, but the number on the plaque seems up-to-date. The plaque number should have been the one seen on the ship. When I can figure out how to post a pic, I'll send it along.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
The Prometheus's dedication plaque and MSD both have the 70000s registry on them. The old number wasn't terribly difficult to explain away. But these conflicting numbers are a bit more of a problem. I don't think anyone's come up w/ a really good explanation yet. The best I can think of at the moment is that it may have been the 59650-B, or something, and they inexplicably decided to leave off the suffix. This would leave the larger number as the ship's "real", unique registry, while 59650 is its "ceremonial" one.
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Assuming you subscribe to TSN's incredibly arcane theory of registries.
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
The problem can be always explained away by saying the crew working on the Prometheus painted a different registry on the hull as a practical joke...
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
We have discussed this before, but since you are new here:
Both the dedication plaque AND the Master Situation Display show the 7xxxx number.
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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
However the Encyclopedia III states the registration no for the Promehteus is NX-5xxxxx something and not NCC-7xxxxx. I know this creates problems but if the writers of the show ie Michael Okuda state it is the lower number then we have to assume it is the lower number. However the USS prometheus Nebula Class has a higher no which creates problems. Maybe the ship has been in development for years but never given a name but recieved a NX-no at the very start.
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It's reasonable to assume that the ridiculous hull rego is a mistake and that NX-74913 is the proper one. Unfortunately the hull rego is so clearly visible in "MiaB" it makes it hard to ignore. There's no simple solution here.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
I personally prefer the lower number, just to ruin everyone's theories about registries.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
So is the name Brittain - in Night Terrors, but everyone maitains that it is indeed Brattain.
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
I say it's the Brittain, because that's what we see on the hull and I live on the Brittain Road
nx001a: That is exactly the simple solution that I referred to before. However, this 70000s registry throws a bit of a wrench into the metaphorical works. Also, Michael Okuda is not a writer on the show. In fact, he doesn't even work on Voyager.
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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
Anyway the nx-number does not really matter since it does not determine the when the ship was constructed(not officially anyway). Of course a ship with a NCC-xxx number was built a long time ago but we have seen ships in TNG, DS9 and VOY that has a wide range of numbers from the Fredrickson NCC-4xxx something to the Steamrunners NCC-7xxxx. Hell when the Dauntless came to rescue Voyager it had a registry of NX-001A so NCC does not come in any particular order.
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I am currently doing a new website on starship database and i was wondering should i use the lower or higher the number. Although the higher no makes more sense i will probably stick with the lower one. What does everyone else think?
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Actually it's NX-01-A not NX-01 A, but that's just a little nitpicking...
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
The MSD said NX-01A.
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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
What if the 5xxxx Registry was misinformation? It's such an advanced ship, that perhaps starfleet put the very old rego on the ship to portray that they had had this ship for years, while the internal numbers of the ship were the correct ones.
Actually, that theory sucks.
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Posted by Epoch (Member # 136) on :
The whole thing is a giant mistake. They probably didn't tell the different set designers what number to use. So the ship has the NX-5xxxxx on the out side and the sets have NX-7xxxxx on the inside. As for you website Nx001a use both and explain the reason to the best of your ability.
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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
Thanks for telling me that the Dauntless registration is wrong. I will probably stick to the old no for the prometheus since i am busy working on my website at the moment.
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Maybe the number on the plaque and the situation monitor was the one chosen by the producers, but maybe nx-59650 was a favourite number of one of the designers, or it had sentimental value. Who knows? The designers try to maintain consistency, but sometimes they boob. --------------- It is offensive. Fortunately, taste is irrelevant. -Seven of Nine, referring to Neelix's coffee from "Year of Hell"
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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
My opinion is that there is a lack of communications between deptments. Mike Okuda and his scenic art team made the MSD and DQ using NX-74913 while the CGI department that did the Prometheus itself didn't know the registry Okuda came up with and made up their own. Obvisiously they didn't understand the semi-chronological order of registries.
However let's assume it's older like the hull registry claims, the Prometheus was a top secret project, you think that when Starfleet named their Nebula-class ship USS Prometheus they'd say, "Hey, you can't name that ship Prometheus, we are already using it for our classified warship!" Yeah right. Odds are they'd just keep quiet.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
We've got ourselves another registry problem:
The Dauntless MSD says: NX-01 A The Dauntless hull has: NX-01-A
But that aside: I like the 74913 better for the Prometheus. It suits the design better, and it higher than the Nebula Class Prometheus.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
The Dauntless wasn't a starfleet ship and even if you say that oh they didn't go 'hang on' at the registry - they might have thought - oh its a new registry numbering scheme that they developed while we were gone... I think it was just a little ploy on the part of the alien to deceive the Voyager crew that they indeed had a brand new Starfleet ship in their hands.
Andrew
Also - I know this doesn't hold for 24th century ships - but in the Star Trek Sketchbook - Matt Jefferies said they used 1701 because the Enterprise was the 17th design and the 1st of its line (or second if you cound 00) This is screwed up when they used those earlier regos for other connie ships - but maybe they were 'tribute' ships - maybe there are lots of Tribute registries - its just that the Enterprise line of ships get the suffix.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
BTW, the Dauntless hull registry never appeared in the show, IIRC.
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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Well, we did see pictures of the CGI Model later on, and it did say NX-01-A. But, as for the registry of NX-01A appearing on the MSD, well, think about this.
The MSD in Engineering onboard the Enterprise-D always had the registry number of NCC-1701D. But we know the registry was NCC-1701-D all the time. I think I've seen occasions where other computer graphics did the same thing.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Ah, OK...in that case, I suppose the -A works.
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