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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
 
In the shuttle recovery scene at the end of the film, we see a shuttlecraft coming to "rescue" Picard. The shuttle reminds me of the shuttle from the old movie with Kirk, I forget which film, but the shuttle there was named the Galileo II.
Only, this shuttle is slightly different, any opinions?

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
 
I remember it looked a lot like the usual Type 6 (which was build from the old movie shuttle). It may have had an extended body, though. I have to check it again.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
There were two full-size shuttles built for STV. One of them was modified into the Type 6 shuttle of late TNG by shortening it and adding windows etc. It was later cut to pieces to create Alice, the sentient shuttle from the Voyager episode of the same name.

But the other shuttle was left intact until Generations. It was at first intended to be shown as a full-size prop, so new windows were installed, the side sponsons removed and the aft impulse engine cowlings expanded. It was named the Hawking II, as shown here. However, ultimately only the scale model was used.

The Hawking languished outside the studio warehouse until Paramount thought it might serve as the basis for the shuttles needed for "Insurrection". Sadly, by that time, weather had taken its toll and the shuttle, along with the old ST:TMP travel pod, was nothing more than a heap of rotten spars. See the book "ST:Action!" for this sad story.

Timo Saloniemi


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Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :
 
That link is dud.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Sorry, I made a mistake with it first and then tried to edit it. But apparently, you can't edit links you have already typed in once, even if they are duds. I guess it's time to call TSN to help...

Anyway, here is the correct link (I hope):
http://members.aol.com/IDICpage/HawkingII.html

Timo Saloniemi

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
*notices that the Hawking II has the same TOS Movie-era nacelles as the Galileo II*

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
 
Well, here is a few very poor screencaps: http://w1.314.telia.com/~u31412332/new/shuttle.htm

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I've never seen that shuttle from The Experience before. Where did you find the picture and do you know what the display was where that shuttle was shown?

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Posted by Trip Tucker (Member # 297) on :
 
Yeah, where did you get the pic? That shuttle is definitely cool looking!
I don't like the nacelles, though.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Sure you can edit links. You just have to do it correctly... :-)

Here is the correct link, for anyone who couldn't get to it.

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Teal'c: "In my culture, I would be well within my rights to dismember you."
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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Thanks, TSN! Went and modified my original link just for practice. It seems that for some reason my reader simply didn't update my messages after I'd submitted the edits. It's as if I'd used the back button instead of constantly moving forward. Weird. I also noticed some of my replies didn't become visible immediately while some did. I'm avoiding the machine that did that to me now... This one seems to immediately show the results of editing.

Timo Saloniemi
 


Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
 
I found the shuttle here, it�s a very good site. He calls the shuttle the valiant, but the text suggests othervise. http://neutralzone.future.easyspace.com/

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"The Starships of the Federation are the physical, tangible manifestations of Humanity�s stubborn insistence that life does indeed mean something."
Spock to Leonard McCoy in "Final Frontier"

 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Timo, Baloo mentions a similar problem over in the Officer's Lounge. Perhaps you two should trade notes.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Timo, Sol: The same thing happens to me in every single forum. The problem is IE. It goes back to the cached copy of the thread, instead of reloading like Netscape does.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
*glares at IE* Making a liar out of me, are ya?

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Ross: "Inter arma, enim silent leges."
Bashir: "'In the time of war the law falls silent.' Cicero. Have we become a 24th-century Rome, driven by the fact that Caesar can do no wrong?!"
-Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Hehehe... Yet another poor soul getting screwed by Microsoft, eh? :-)

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Col. Maybourne: "Teal'c... It's good to see you well."
Teal'c: "In my culture, I would be well within my rights to dismember you."
-Stargate SG-1: "Touchstone"
 




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