If you haven't seen DF: It is a tunnel, a bit like in Star Wars and Sliders (early season version, but straight ahead
)I may have more questions later when I get the answers to these. I would like to create a (or some) ships equipped with that drive, I hesitate to render any Q-S drive-equipped vessels until I know what chararacteristics they ought to have.
Thank you.
--Baloo
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"The mark of a truly great mind isn't whether you're right or wrong. It's how well you can weasel out of a jam."
--Cecil Adams
Come Hither and Yawn...
1: Similar to the transwarp conduits seen in 'Dark Frontier', but the color is light blue (Also stated by Seven that it was similar).
If you haven't seen DF: It is a tunnel, a bit like in Star Wars and Sliders (early season version, but straight ahead )
2 and 6: The deflector emits the <speak=Paris>whatever it is</speak>, which is visible as a light blue glow on the full surface of the ship. Then it is emitted as a tunnel when you are at maximum impuls speed. We've seen Voyager do is as well. The 'nacelles' are probably used for changing the cource of the tunnel.
3: They said 60.000 lightyears in 3 months, but it is probably even faster.
4: Replacement
5: The Dauntless had something different, it was not stated what it was, but it wasn't matter/antimatter. Voyager managed to do with some modifications to the warp core.
I myself have created several ships that use what I call a Quantum Warpdrive, which is supposed to be a Borg/Dauntless type combination.
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Gravity sucks!
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"A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx
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The second was an improved version made by Seven, and that one was indeed a lot faster.
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Upto the episode where the Quantum Slipstream is introduced ('Hope and Fear')we always saw the Borg warp field with the 'standard look'. Dark Frontier is the first episode after 'Hope and Fear' that shows the conduits...
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In fact, as early as Descent, TNG, the Borg were using some sort of Transwarp tunnels to and from the Delta Quadrant.
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"A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx
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Were talking about conduits (temporarly) made by SHIPS here!
And I thought that conduit was only a few hundred lightyears long at most.
Phew.. Sorry about sounding blunt.
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I didn't say they were the SAME THING! I simply meant that the Borg were already familiar with similar technology.
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"A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx
Aban's Illustration www.thespeakeasy.com/alanfore
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7 alarm clock: "Do not touch me."
Dilbert: "Then how do I turn you off?"
7: "Believe me, I am plenty turned off."
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"Questions, comments, bring them to me. Problems, take them to Kinis."
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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.
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"You're right. They wouldn't be able to see anything but the top of your head. The glare could blind them."
-B'Ellana Torres, Virtuoso
At that rate, you could get to the Andromeda galaxy in a bit less than an hour, and reach the edges of observable space (provided they're at 35 billion light year's distance) in something like 2 years.
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"We adjust to anything. That�s the good news, and that�s what keeps the bad news coming."
--James Lileks
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"You're right. They wouldn't be able to see anything but the top of your head. The glare could blind them."
-B'Ellana Torres, Virtuoso
Sorry that is a bit of a side track...
Andrew
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"What a wonderful and amazing scheme have we here of the magnificent vastness of the Universe! So many Suns, so many Earths...!" - Christian Huygens, New Conjectures Concerning the Planetary Worlds, Their Inhabitants and Productions (ca 1670)
I leave it to the physics students to point out errors in your logic, however. You eally ought not to write while you are in a panic. It makes it hard to follow your train of thought.
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"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt
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I'm in physics, but we're studying slinkies. Er, waves, actually. But we use slinkies!
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"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."
-Mark Twain
Some numbers:
(c = lightspeed)
warp 9: 1516c (not: 1024c)
warp 9.9: 3053c
warp 9.99: 7912c
warp 9.999: 181053c (about 4 months for 60000 lightyears)
I think Sevens enhanced Slipstream drive will probably add only about two or three 9-s at maximum to that number, since the warp scale isn't exactly linear.
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"I'm captain Kenny Redshirt of the Miranda Class USS Killedalot, NCC-1313."
"I know it is an old ship, but..."
KABOOOOMM!!
"Oh my God! They killed Kenny! You bastards!"
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Andrew
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"What a wonderful and amazing scheme have we here of the magnificent vastness of the Universe! So many Suns, so many Earths...!" - Christian Huygens, New Conjectures Concerning the Planetary Worlds, Their Inhabitants and Productions (ca 1670)
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Jay Leno: "In the story of 'Jack and the Beanstalk', what did the goose lay?"
"Bosco": "Everybody."
-The Tonight Show, "Jaywalking"
Just looking at the above responses, I think we can all agree that there are very few points of agreement regarding the Q-S drive . So far, all we've been able to determine is, with one apparently dissenting (or possibly just confused) opinion, it's fast, and ships that use it have to be streamlined or they can't use it very well.
If you have any episodes on tape that show it used, watch them and see what answers you can find for the following questions.
"Suuuure you need these! They'll help you develop proper posture and compensate for the graticuole particles!""The other crewmembers don't seem to require them?"
"Er, well, y'see, you need these because of your nanites. Yeah! That's it! The gravy-whatever particles will disrupt your equilibruim if you don't wear them!"
"Very well. I'll put them on."
[Voice from offscreen:] "Yesss! She bought it! Woo-Hoo!"
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"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt
Come Hither and Yawn...
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And we've seen the slipstream used 4 times: Twice by the Dauntless and twice by Voyager:
- In the first time that Voyager uses it, it appearantly has a maximum speed.
- The Dauntless was able to increase it's speed while inside the slipstream. Also it had a pre-programmed destination.
- Voyager was able to change the direction of the slipstream and the crew shut it down on their own when the stresses were to high.
- The second time Voyager uses it, it is a whole lot faster, but one mistake and they droped out of the slipstream and are out of control. Although you can stop the slipstream and just ease back into normal space.
It seems that you have almost the same freedom of movement as in normal warp. You can even program a destination for the slipstream, which is probably because at these high speeds you can very easely miss your destination.
To answer your questions:
1: Several 100 lightyears at the first time Voyager uses it, about 10000 the second time. The Dauntless made a jump of about 26 lightyears on autopilot, and the second time it went all the way to Borg space.
2: no
3: Not sure. There isn't enough information for that. But the Dauntless was able to increase it's speed while already inside the slipstream. So it hasn't got one single speed.
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"I'm captain Kenny Redshirt of the Miranda Class USS Killedalot, NCC-1313."
"I know it is an old ship, but..."
KABOOOOMM!!
"Oh my God! They killed Kenny! You bastards!"
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Is it faster than subspace radio? If so, by how many orders of magnitude (approximate figures are appropriate).
--Baloo
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"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt
Come Hither and Yawn...
If we assume it can go 10,000 ly in 17 seconds ("Timeless"), then it's a whopping 1,86*10^10 c, or NINETY THOUSAND TIMES faster than subspace radio.
Not to mention that subspace radio seems to have a maximum range of 22 lightyears. Or more exactly, the signal has to be boosted every 22 lightyears at the very least to keep up that 200,000 c speed; unboosted signals from the biggest transmitters slow down to lightspeed at 22 lightyears, and may slow down from the maximum speed of warp 9,999 even before that range.
So if you want to send a message to somebody farther than a hundred lightyears away, don't bother with subspace radio. Write a letter, take your time, and send the letter on a slipstream ship. As Baloo noted, the longest delivery time inside our galaxy is three minutes!
That kind of a drive would probably make starships as we know them an outdated concept. Perhaps we would see the return of MAD: if you threaten me, I'll press this button, and WAY before the sound of the click reaches my ears, my missiles have reached your star system and annihilated you. Even your fastest computer cannot react to the threat fast enough.
Timo Saloniemi