In the Making-of-First Contact-Book by Lou Anders Alex Yeager from ILM says that every ship in the battle scene got a name and a registry. Is this true, and if "yes": Got every ship in the DS9-battle scenes a name too?
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Many of the ships on DS9 got names. The ships in the opening scenes of Sacrifice of Angels did. The Curry and the Frederickson for example.
If you're refering to the large all out battle scenes, there is evidense that some of the most prominent ships did (the Setak and the Majestic) but given that there are countless little floaters way in the background of most of those scenes, it's highly doubtful that every ship created was given a name or registry.
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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
That's what I want to know!
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I'm not so sure we'd want to discover them, lest we be forced to accept such dubiously christened vessels as the USS Fat Bastard and USS Jenny, I love you, will you marry me? into the official canon. Not to mention the USS Steve Made This.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
There was supposedly a ship labeled the "Alka-celsior" in the Wolf 359 wreckage.
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Should we even accept the USS Alka-celsior? We don't because we all know that was an inside joke and the lables were not meant to be seen on screen. Even if we didn't know it was a joke, it wouldn't be accepted either because it just sounds too crazy. We just can't accept everything they put on screen as cannon because most of the time they're inside jokes. So of course, if there were names for all these ships and some were USS This Took To Long To Create or USS I'm A Wussy Ship And That's Why I'm Not Up In The Front, those shouldn't be accepted as cannon. They just sound too crazy to even sound real.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Well, it wasn't "USS Alka-celsior," it was just "Alka-celsior."
Of course, there's no shortage of obvious nonsense on Trek, like that tachyon planet core...
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Wasn't there once a USS Luke Skywalker on an Okudagram? Or maybe it was just USS Skywalker? Actually, I think there were some other joke ones at that same time...
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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Today I saw "What you leave behind". There were some close-up shots of Galaxy-, Excelsior-, Nebula- and Miranda-Ships. I think that at least these ships get a name, but I couldn't see something clearly. Has anyone seen more?
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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
The guys over at ILM and Okuda appear to be known for its practical jokes. Such as "Medical Insurance Remaining" or "Menu: Antimatter Flambe or Tribbles a la Triskettes" etc. I wouldn't be surprised that they had a background ship with the name "USS Monica Lewinsky".
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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Don't forget the USS Pastuer being built at the Skywalker Ranch
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In "WYLB" is the name of the Galaxy-class ship that was standing still, firing phasers, known?
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
To me that Galaxy is unlabled and so has no name.
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
I saw a name and registry on that Galaxy Class in WYLB on the nacelle pylon. It either started with a "T" or a "C" and it looked like NX-xxxxx. I'm not actually sure though.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I wonder if it was a reuse of the Challenger or Galaxy...
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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Michael_T: Surely you can�t mean that a galaxy-class starship has a NX-prefix? That would imply that it is a variant. Pic anyone?
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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
A galaxy class variant? I would like to see that? Could be a dreadnought variation?
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If it did have an NX registry, it would have to have been the USS Galaxy herself. That C could have been a G instead. However, I recall the Galaxy having an NCC registry in "Tears of the Prophets" And there are already three different variations on the Galaxy class. 1) The original 2) The Venture with phaser strips on the nacelles 3) The original but with the upper spine in black. I will not count the E-D from "All Good Things..." because that has not been seen in the regular timeline. The first ship of any variation on a class that has an NX registry must be classified as a different class altogether. And there were no new classes or design variations in WYLB. ------------------ 7 alarm clock: "Do not touch me." Dilbert: "Then how do I turn you off?" 7: "Believe me, I am plenty turned off."
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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Well, as regards the NX-prefix, wouldn�t the USS Galaxy have been "upgraded" to NCC when the galaxy-class became truly operational? It can�t be considered experimental when full production has started, can it?
As to the galaxy-class variant with "upper spine in black", what�s this? That I have totally missed, any pics?
I already have pics of the USS Venture. That ship�s use of the phaser strips on the nacelles is copied from the variant in "All good things..", by the way.
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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
A ship class can still have a nx registry even if the class has gone into production such as the defiant class. However we know the galaxy was given a ncc registry not an nx one.
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Personally, I think an NX ship doesn't get an "NCC" painted on it unless it goes in for a refit or repairs or something. The Defiant was never repainted because it never really went into drydock or anything for extensive reworking. Well, except maybe during the war. But I don't think they would really worry about it then.
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Well, there could be an easy explination: there's a new Galaxy Class starship.
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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
..or not.
Only class ships get the NX prefix. Not ships already of the class.
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Posted by Dane Simri (Member # 272) on :
"Only class ships get the NX prefix."
Do you mean, Ultra Magnus, that only experimental, prototype ships get the NX prefix, regardless of whether or not a class develops from them? I think this is closer to the facts.
And what happens when a prototype, NX-registered ship completes its testing? If the decision is made to include it in the active fleet, does it lose its NX in favor of an NCC? Evidence pro is obviously Excelsior; evidence con is Defiant?
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Ah, but one can argue that the Defiant never finished her prototype phase before being destroyed. Even the DS9 tech man. had said so and probably would retain the NX prefix for a long time even if the class went into production.
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, the Excelsior had quite a few other changes made when it went from NX to NCC. They probably repainted the hull while it was being upgraded.
The Defiant never really had this, so one could say that they just never got around to repainting the hull.
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Posted by Joshua Bell (Member # 327) on :
If you like (or don't like) wacky names for your starships, check out the "Culture" book series by Ian M. Banks. The starships are 10s or 100s of kilometer long, self-aware ships built of force fields, and they name (and rename) themselves. Some examples:
GCU Big Sexy Beast GCU What Are The Civilian Applications? GSV What Is The Answer and Why? LOU Gunboat Diplomat dROU Zealot
GCU = General (biggest) Contact Unit GSV = General Systems (multipurpose) Vehicle LOU = Limited (smaller) Offensive Unit dROU = Demilitarized Rapid Offensive Unit
