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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

LOL
sorry silly title
but the thread is serouse.

exactly how do borg pilot their ships?
in "q-who" and "best of both worlds"-borg seem to stand in their alcove and guide it using their collective consciounse.
it seems the only reason the borg would leave from their alcoves for maintanece,assimilation,research,adding power nodes.yadda yadda yadda
but alot of the main controls such as weapons and others are done by interfacing with the cube.

later in voyager--it seems the borg ships have more panels and consoles that weren't set up for research or maintaince.

the borg seem to have a viewscreen monitor, a weapon monitor,sheild monitor and engine station like any normal ship-are these systems backup systems?

one wierd sequence was in the beginning of "Dark Frontier"
a drone had to be notified of a ship and that drone had to take a leisurely walk to some viewscreen and look at voyager-----the whole process seemed quite out of place with what we expect of the borg and quite inefficient--

all and all-the borg SUDDENLY seem to run a starship like any other crew.

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Posted by Evolved (Member # 389) on :

That's Star Trek: Voyager for you...

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"Objects in mirror are closer than they appear."

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Seven Of Nine made a course correction with the blink of an eye in "Scorpion", standing right on the floor, so Voyager does think of that.
The displaying of Voyager on a screen was for dramatic effect, as well you know.

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[This message has been edited by Nimrod (edited March 11, 2001).]

Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

well most of scorpoin did not have too many discontinuities except hole fleet of cubes getting blown up with single shots.

it really went downhill since dark frontier
unimatrix episold is crap

everything in that episold can be chopped up to dramatic effect and story telling like the queen issueing verbal commands.

Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

The more you show a major villian that's supposed to be a large threat, the more you learn about their weaknesses. Also more you see them the more there mistakes they can show. Unimatrix Zero is crap even though everyone in the production crew on Voyager liked it. They're just lazy don't give a crap about us, just to boost the ratings that's all.

(if you haven't noticed I hate Voyager, I just watch it because its the only Trek show on left)

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

well voyager is an aquired taste like caviar

and that crap show adronemada

i know people who love voyager and hate TNG
they're mostly 12 and 14 year olds

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Adronemeda. Maybe that's Series V? A show about the Borg?

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

blah
never could spell that right
back to hooked on phonics

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Please.

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Posted by EdipisReks on :

andronemeda sounds like something homer simpson would say, like saxomaphone, and obomaboe

--jacob

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what are we supposed to use, man, harsh language!?

Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

it is spelled saxamaphone dammit

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

That is Major Irony.

Er, well, the irony that a giant cube would have to steer, seeing as it has no front, is what I mean. Yeah, that's it.

I pulled that one off quite well did not I.

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[This message has been edited by Ultra Magnus (edited March 12, 2001).]

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Affirmative, Major Irony. (Last name Jerems?)

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Regarding the way the Drones acted in "Q Who" and "BoBW":

In the former episode, we didn't really see the Borg flying their ship. All we got was interior feed from a big cavity inside the ship, function unknown, during which the ship did not maneuver. We got the same sort of visual feed in "Scorpion".

In the latter TNG episode, the Borg did have a "command table" of some sort for maneuvering and battle management, with a holodisplay, and with Locutus and other Borg standing around it, not in their alcoves. More of this was seen in "Emissary".

One might say that the Borg stay in their alcoves only when the ship is relatively idle and the specialized duties of these Drones are not needed. Riker's away team in "Q Who?" hit some sort of a nursery area, undamaged by the fire from the Enterprise, so it was natural for the Drones there to be largely dormant.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by EdipisReks on :

well, its a saxOphone, so i have no reason to believe that homer would alter the existing workd, and make it saxAmaphone.

--jacob

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what are we supposed to use, man, harsh language!?

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

"Saxomophone".

I just have to be different. :-)

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

"What the fuck is a Samoflanche?
-somoflanche
-I have to do that again!"

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Was it not Humble? And Urple?

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

So when you saw that cube spinning and firing one of its Glowing Green Bolts� from each corner at the 8742, there wasn't a drone inside at the controls going "heh, heh, heh! Am I the coolest, or what?"

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

More likely, he went "Get away! Stop it!! HEEEELLP!!!" and, in sheer desperation, initiated every tactical move in borg inventory. At the same time.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

UM: Excerpt from the Urple-Orange Turnip Bible: "And the �berTurnip spoke...'it shall be two thirds of a turnip high, and two wide. It shall be urple of the light kind, and you will be penitent before its presence.' And he saw that it was good. In fact it was yummy."

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

turnips never yummy
turnip juice?

the borg cube fired full salvos-pretty cool.

how the hell did a really "thick skin" not get dammaged by torpedos is beyond me.

Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

btw
why did they name picard locutus?
not really borg like later we found out

so is it a pet name given by the queen-hmmmmmmmm

Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

LOCUTION. n. 1. a particular form of expression; phrase, expression, or idiom. 2. a style of speech or verbal expression; phraseology.

Therefore, a "locutus" would be one who speaks for another. Sounds like Picard's role to me.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

I think he meant to ask why Picard was given a name at all.

I'd say it was because his purpose was to help facilitate assimilation. Would you be more comfortable being assimilated by Locutus, or by 15 of 23?

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Does it matter? You still end up pasty-white, with a gadget instead of an arm, and you suddenly think that beer is irrelevant. That sucks to me.

Mark

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

It appears that I have read that Turnips have a lack of a favorable taste. Is this so? The defacing of the Turnip is a vile, and disgraceful act, and cannot be ratified without the shedding of the familial blood.

I am now aware as to why I have acute xenophobia towards members of the new kind.

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

so locutus would have remained his designation forever if he haven't been rescued?

btw
down with turnips! hehehehehe

Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

"Hi, my name's Locutus, and I'll be your assimilator tonight. Can I interest you in our specials? Super. Well, currently we're offering an arm-replacement tool with extra wiggly-waggly bits on, or, for the more daring among you, not one but two ocular replacements! Terrific. You want fries with that? Ohh, I'm sorry, I've just heard from the chef that fries are off - they're irrelevant, apparently."

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

*ponders notion of drone with two eyepieces*
Like having a match in each corner of your mouth instead of just one. "Looking like a dickhead

F0rce: Thy audacity in scorning turnip will cost you dearly! Don't be surprised if the clerk at the bank proves to be strangely uncooperative, or if your teachers start giving you wedgies in class...

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

we've seen drones with two eye pieces before in TNG
that particular drone also had a mouth piece that looked like a scube gear---aparently that drone was outfitted to assimilate useful fishies.

destruction to all turnips
Deceptacons attack!

Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Maybe that drone was intended to travel back in time and assimilate the humpback whales from ST IV The Voyage Home

and by that bring about the end of the Federation

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Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :

could be and the borg might develop a taste for large schools of shrimp.

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

quote:

The more you show a major villian that's supposed to be a large threat, the more you
learn about their weaknesses. Also more you see them the more there mistakes they
can show.

Well, I can give you one example to the contrary... The Goa'uld from Stargate-SG1... still BIG and NASTY - after 4 years... we know quite a lot more about them... but well they are still a pretty Big threat...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Actually, it seems to me that they are increasingly outclassed and outgunned by other groups. The, uh, one guys, for example. Or the Asgard.

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

Sorry I don't watch that series, but its those flying pyramid people?

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

The Shadows were handled quite well. But that was done quite carefully, and they were only around for (essentially), two and a bit years. But by gradually increasing the number of ships we saw at once, they were kept scary, and threatening. (The fact that before Shadow Dancing, only 3 had been destroyed - and two of them were by trickery - also helped).

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Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :

Regarding the name Locutus.

Being the "Locutus" is latin for "moutpiece" I think it's clear that's his function, not a name. So I guess the guy who assimilates all day is "Assimilus" of Borg. LOL.

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Proof! Proof I tell you that Riker should have realised that the Borg had assimilated Picard's knowledge the moment he said his name. Come on, Locutus; it's pompous, it's Latin, it's still cool, it's Picard all over!

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

He was forced to choose his name? That's cruel. Like sending a child out into the kitchen to choose what he shall be spanked with...

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Boiled cauliflower would be my first choice.

The Borg evidently aren't averse to letting their victims do some name-choosing. It seems that they even allowed an Earthling assimilee familiar with the term "cyborg" to pick the name for the entire race...

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I dunno. Who was the first assimilated human. Prior to VOY, it was almost certainly Picard, and they were called the Borg way before that. They were called the Borg during the 23rd century, when they assimilated the El-Aurians, and that's way before even the Hansons stumbled on them.

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

To be accurate, they were NOT referred to as the Borg in the 23rd century parts of "Generations". All the references to the species came from the 24th century part of the movie.

The first time we hear the name uttered, in Trek's internal chronology, is apparently "Dark Frontier", where the Hansens use this name in 2354 or so. Perhaps they invented it? Or chose it from among the dozens of names given to this mystery species by unreliable eyewitnesses?

The first time we hear the word in RL would be from Guinan, identifying the species who flies the cubeship in "Q Who?" before the species has a chance to introduce itself. So naturally the Universal Translator would translate the phrase "We are the X" into "We are the Borg" regardless of what word the species themselves used in place of X. And then the name would stick, when after Picard's safe return from J-25 the UT of the E-D would get networked to all the other UTs of the Federation and propagate its interpretation of this word X.

So if Guinan invented the name, then she would have been responsible for the Borg seemingly adopting it (when in fact only the UFP translator machines had adopted it). But then the chronology vis-a-vis the Hansens would not work. The name must have been invented before the 2350s, if not by the Hansens, then by somebody else - and preferably by somebody who could propagate it into the UFP translator network.

Guinan might have been keeping current with news related to the species that assimilated her homeworld, and digging up pieces of information that very few in Starfleet would understand for what they really were. Surely the Borg didn't go into hibernation between assimilating El-Aurus and encountering Picard at J-25 - they probably created a steady flow of refugees, and Guinan listened to the refugees talking when nobody else had the patience or understanding to. She might have picked up the name from these discussions, perhaps from the same source the Hansens got it from - say, a human drunkard off in his warp-speed pickup in a poorly charted part of space, coming home with a story about horrible cyborgs and another about pink targs dancing cakewalk around his head, and only Guinan knew one of those stories was true.

Timo Saloniemi