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Posted by Shipbuilder (Member # 69) on :

Looks like some new Dauntless pics have popped up over at www.starshipmodeler.com

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sorry, forgot to add www in there.
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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Or here. 8)

Interesting - actual Foundation Imaging shots. But it certainly brings home one fact - quite how alien this ship is when you really look at it. It's far too organic. I can't believe anyone would fall for this trick. It's still nice to see these shots, though - "Hope and Fear" remains perhaps my favourite Voyager ep.

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :

SWEET! I've waited for quality views like that for a long time.

I dunno about the ship appearing too "alien" -- remember that it uses an entirely different propulsion system, which probably necessitates the different hull configuration. Remember that Voyager's had problems with making the quantum slipstream work. And consider that a starship's hull shape is designed to (in part) reflect methods of warp geometry or something like that.

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Posted by Shipbuilder (Member # 69) on :

"And consider that a starship's hull shape is designed to (in part)reflect methods of warp geometry or something like that"

True...for WARP travel, but we can't really say that for slipstream. Although with a shape with that much fluidity in its design, you'd hope that SOMETHING was driving them towards that style.

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

That lump under the nose of the Dauntless sure looks like a quantum-torp launcher � la Sovereign, but it isn't visible from the forward view. Strange.

Could it be launching the goodies at a -10 degree angle, and then letting the torpedo pull itself up if the target is straight ahead? Pretty far-fetched...

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

I've never liked straight orthographic views of CGI models for a start, they always seem to highlight the ship's essential fake-ness. This is why I think the Dauntless looks so alien in these shots, whereas if you watch the ep or look at screengrabs it's not so obvious.

Who designed the Dauntless anyway? If we're going to be seeing a 25th or 26th-century starship in the next series, this could almost be a taste of what to expect, given the 29th-century Starfleet ships we've seen look nothing at all like 'current' designs. It would be cool if it featured some new propulsion system, though - getting bored of warp, only interesting thing been done with it in recent years was the way the E-E stretched as it warped out; the prospect of seeing a ship do the Quantum Slipstream-type stretch does cheer one up!

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Plus the blue tunnel is nicer. And it would kill one of the biggest arguments the "Star Wars Only" tech-heads have had against Star Trek; "Hyperspace is faster! Nyaaah!"

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Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :

**** Prepare for ludicrous speed!!!! ****

Spaceballs rulez!!!

Ah well, not really, no!

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :

Wow! Looking good, although Foundation didnt do much for lighting, they all look very flat.
My question is why dont they render to a higher res? Man if could build a cg model anywhere close to that quality i would be pumping out 2048x1530 renders like thre was no tomorrow.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

MinutiaeMan: That was also because Voyager had problems getting enough impulse speed to go into the slipstream.

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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

Just FYI, it was Rick Sternbach who originally designed the dauntless. His orignial sketches were then given to FI to create the model.

Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Hmm. Did he do the Relativity as well?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I think so.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

I must say I think the Prometheus and Dauntless share some characteristics, what with the grey colour, the triangular "saucers" and what-have-you and whatnot.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Also the rifling that lines the saucer on both sides. Both have that.

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :

Speaking of the Relativity, Does anyone know where I can get picts like these of it? Im starting a collection for my 29th century web project.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Again, with my CGI qualms... there is something just not quite right with these pics... they again look... fake... or rather cartoonish... is it the lighting... or is it the detail?

Although this is probably the nicest of these new pics...
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/trek/nx01a_fwd.jpg

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :

Im sick of all the CG bashing based on Draft-Quality images. When the CG is in motion and post effects are completed it- imo- always looks better.

http://www.grms.fsnet.co.uk/articles/hope_dauntless.jpg

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :

plus, you have to realized, the Dauntless was a one time use ship... now the akira.. thats just a wet dream.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Why can't they bring out the Norway in some of these pics!?!

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

For some more pics of the Dauntless and Relativity check the Voyager section on http://www.stinsv.com

To satisfy that wet dream, check the DS9 section on the above mentioned site for a high-res beauty shot.

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